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DrunkRalphie

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Add baby killers to the list of reasons to hate Alabama.

Though, I guess fewer Alabama fans is never a bad thing.
 

Trogdor

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If there is one team that can’t complain about Alabama’s schedule last year it’s oregon, their OOC was a joke.
Because Georgia backed out of the home and home. Or was it Texas A&M? Could Oregon have probably landed a better replacement, yeah, but come on.

This isn't an Oregon fan hating on the big bad SEC, as I said they're the best conference in the nation. These are facts painting a clear as day picture that they game the system like no other and nobody says anything. When you can snowball overrated preseason rankings into early season "marquee" matchups every year, that props up the entire conference the rest of the season. etc, etc, etc.

Since 1998 Oregon has had home and homes OOC with:
Michigan St (twice)
Wisconsin
Michigan
Mississippi St
Oklahoma
Purdue
Nebraska
Tennessee
Virginia

In addition to "neutral" site games vs LSU and Auburn.

So in 23 years, 22 P5 OOC games.

They've also historically scheduled the strongest "G5" teams, like Utah(3 games), Fresno(5 games) and BSU(2 games, with more scheduled). And, as I mentioned, new AD regimes at Georgia and TAMU cancelled series' with Oregon.

2020
Ohio St
2021
Ohio St
2022
Another "neutral" in Atlanta vs Georgia.
After that it's TT, Okie Lite, and Michigan State again.

Hating on Oregon's scheduling is stupid. Cherry picking one year of Oregon having a crap OOC schedule to decades of SEC teams not even leaving their own state for their entire OOC, and playing FCS teams in November is also stupid. I've done the research multiple times. SEC teams average something like 1 fewer road game a year, every single year than Pac-12 teams. Think about that. Then there's the 9 game conference schedule; while we're playing each other in November Alabama has The Citadel.

You think getting another bye in November doesn't matter, year after year for a dozen+ teams? You think getting to play your backups another 4 quarters every year doesn't help develop talent? Come on. This isn't a glass houses thing. While Oregon's schedule might be wattle and daub from time to time, the vast majority of the time it's concrete.

and yes, I've had a few beers.
 
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Buffnik

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Because Georgia backed out of the home and home. Or was it Texas A&M? Could Oregon have probably landed a better replacement, yeah, but come on.

This isn't an Oregon fan hating on the big bad SEC, as I said they're the best conference in the nation. These are facts painting a clear as day picture that they game the system like no other and nobody says anything. When you can snowball overrated preseason rankings into early season "marquee" matchups every year, that props up the entire conference the rest of the season. etc, etc, etc.

Since 1998 Oregon has had home and homes OOC with:
Michigan St (twice)
Wisconsin
Michigan
Mississippi St
Oklahoma
Purdue
Nebraska
Tennessee
Virginia

In addition to "neutral" site games vs LSU and Auburn.

So in 23 years, 22 P5 OOC games.

They've also historically scheduled the strongest "G5" teams, like Utah(3 games), Fresno(5 games) and BSU(2 games, with more scheduled). And, as I mentioned, new AD regimes at Georgia and TAMU cancelled series' with Oregon.

2020
Ohio St
2021
Ohio St
2022
Another "neutral" in Atlanta vs Georgia.
After that it's TT, Okie Lite, and Michigan State again.

Hating on Oregon's scheduling is stupid. Cherry picking one year of Oregon having a crap OOC schedule to decades of SEC teams not even leaving their own state for their entire OOC, and playing FCS teams in November is also stupid. I've done the research multiple times. SEC teams average something like 1 fewer road game a year, every single year than Pac-12 teams. Think about that. Then there's the 9 game conference schedule; while we're playing each other in November Alabama has The Citadel.

You think getting another bye in November doesn't matter, year after year for a dozen+ teams? You think getting to play your backups another 4 quarters every year doesn't help develop talent? Come on. This isn't a glass houses thing. While Oregon's schedule might be wattle and daub from time to time, the vast majority of the time it's concrete.

and yes, I've had a few beers.
This is spot on.

fwiw, CU is also a weird case in college football where we do better if we schedule at least 10 P5 opponents and challenging G5 opponents on top of that. Most programs do best when they schedule modestly -- one "A" opponent and one "B" opponent in the non-conference with the other game or two against "C" competition. Oregon has met that standard, often without a "C" opponent and sometimes with two "A" opponents on top of playing 9 conference games. The SEC thinks nothing of having one "A" or "B" opponent and three "C" opponents on a non-conference schedule -- with the "A" played at home or at a neutral site inside their region. Baylor and Kansas State successfully employed that SEC type scheduling model in our previous conference(s).
 

onealcd

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Because Georgia backed out of the home and home. Or was it Texas A&M? Could Oregon have probably landed a better replacement, yeah, but come on.

This isn't an Oregon fan hating on the big bad SEC, as I said they're the best conference in the nation. These are facts painting a clear as day picture that they game the system like no other and nobody says anything. When you can snowball overrated preseason rankings into early season "marquee" matchups every year, that props up the entire conference the rest of the season. etc, etc, etc.

Since 1998 Oregon has had home and homes OOC with:
Michigan St (twice)
Wisconsin
Michigan
Mississippi St
Oklahoma
Purdue
Nebraska
Tennessee
Virginia

In addition to "neutral" site games vs LSU and Auburn.

So in 23 years, 22 P5 OOC games.

They've also historically scheduled the strongest "G5" teams, like Utah(3 games), Fresno(5 games) and BSU(2 games, with more scheduled). And, as I mentioned, new AD regimes at Georgia and TAMU cancelled series' with Oregon.

2020
Ohio St
2021
Ohio St
2022
Another "neutral" in Atlanta vs Georgia.
After that it's TT, Okie Lite, and Michigan State again.

Hating on Oregon's scheduling is stupid. Cherry picking one year of Oregon having a crap OOC schedule to decades of SEC teams not even leaving their own state for their entire OOC, and playing FCS teams in November is also stupid. I've done the research multiple times. SEC teams average something like 1 fewer road game a year, every single year than Pac-12 teams. Think about that. Then there's the 9 game conference schedule; while we're playing each other in November Alabama has The Citadel.

You think getting another bye in November doesn't matter, year after year for a dozen+ teams? You think getting to play your backups another 4 quarters every year doesn't help develop talent? Come on. This isn't a glass houses thing. While Oregon's schedule might be wattle and daub from time to time, the vast majority of the time it's concrete.

and yes, I've had a few beers.
I didn't say anything about a season other than 2018, which was one of the worst OOC schedules I have seen for a program like Oregon. Yes, teams back out of games, it happens all the time. Bowling Green was a 3-9 MAC team, a 1-11 MWC team and a 4-7 FCS school. That is inexcusable and they can't say **** to anyone about who they played in 2018.
 

Mick Ronson

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Baylor and Kansas State successfully employed that SEC type scheduling model in our previous conference(s).
Snyder was the "pioneer". seem to recall Texas Tech with some pretty eye-rolling OOC's in CU's Big XII days....put them in that group, as well.
 

Not Sure

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Speaking of Snyder and the mildcats, I’ll be watching that team this year. It’ll be interesting to see how they move forward after his (second) retirement.
 

Highlander

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Snyder was the "pioneer". seem to recall Texas Tech with some pretty eye-rolling OOC's in CU's Big XII days....put them in that group, as well.
Mike Leach brought that "TT patsy schedule" with him to Pullman. He's been there since 2012. Since 2014, they have played a single home and home series with a P5 opponent. That was 2014-2015 against a Rutgers squad that was a combined 1 game over .500 those two years. No P5 schools 2016 - 2019.
 

Buffnik

Real name isn't Nik
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Junta Member
Mike Leach brought that "TT patsy schedule" with him to Pullman. He's been there since 2012. Since 2014, they have played a single home and home series with a P5 opponent. That was 2014-2015 against a Rutgers squad that was a combined 1 game over .500 those two years. No P5 schools 2016 - 2019.
Yep. It has amounted to having almost an extra month of practice before the season really starts for Wazzu. They've done better in conference play because of it and also banked some extra non-conference wins. It has also made the Pac-12 look horrible at times because they've lost some opening game bodybag games before going on to finishing in the top third of the Pac-12.
 

crosby87

Member
Sorry for a stupid question, but if you transfer and sit out a year then transfer again without playing do you have to sit out again?
 

ahoelsken

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Because Georgia backed out of the home and home. Or was it Texas A&M? Could Oregon have probably landed a better replacement, yeah, but come on.

This isn't an Oregon fan hating on the big bad SEC, as I said they're the best conference in the nation. These are facts painting a clear as day picture that they game the system like no other and nobody says anything. When you can snowball overrated preseason rankings into early season "marquee" matchups every year, that props up the entire conference the rest of the season. etc, etc, etc.

Since 1998 Oregon has had home and homes OOC with:
Michigan St (twice)
Wisconsin
Michigan
Mississippi St
Oklahoma
Purdue
Nebraska
Tennessee
Virginia

In addition to "neutral" site games vs LSU and Auburn.

So in 23 years, 22 P5 OOC games.

They've also historically scheduled the strongest "G5" teams, like Utah(3 games), Fresno(5 games) and BSU(2 games, with more scheduled). And, as I mentioned, new AD regimes at Georgia and TAMU cancelled series' with Oregon.

2020
Ohio St
2021
Ohio St
2022
Another "neutral" in Atlanta vs Georgia.
After that it's TT, Okie Lite, and Michigan State again.

Hating on Oregon's scheduling is stupid. Cherry picking one year of Oregon having a crap OOC schedule to decades of SEC teams not even leaving their own state for their entire OOC, and playing FCS teams in November is also stupid. I've done the research multiple times. SEC teams average something like 1 fewer road game a year, every single year than Pac-12 teams. Think about that. Then there's the 9 game conference schedule; while we're playing each other in November Alabama has The Citadel.

You think getting another bye in November doesn't matter, year after year for a dozen+ teams? You think getting to play your backups another 4 quarters every year doesn't help develop talent? Come on. This isn't a glass houses thing. While Oregon's schedule might be wattle and daub from time to time, the vast majority of the time it's concrete.

and yes, I've had a few beers.
I don't have a problem with the Ducklings doing what they did last year-If you get dropped by somebody (I think A&M dropped them to play Clemson) at the last minute, you're in almost as bad a situation as the one we were in trying to get the makeup with Charleston Southern or whoever that was in 2013 after the floods.

You want to call a Pac 12 coach a member of the Bill Snyder school of OOC scheduling........let's talk about Kyle Whittingham-They're avoiding tough games in September because they play BYU every year.......
 

Medicbuff

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Getting another BS hardship waiver is not gong to to happen at this stage unless he just goes full amoeba and plays the "transferring back home to be closer to aging grandma" card. Paging UNLV and Nevada, time to strike up your watch parties.
Watch, Tathaniel will transfer to unlv and hold the clipboard for one year and then quit.
 

TSchekler

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Club Member
Is he about to become the next Luke Del Rio? Highly touted high school QB who transferred to multiple P5 programs before never really seeing meaningful playing time.
 

Buffnik

Real name isn't Nik
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Junta Member
I'd take Tate at CU. He looked good when he got in at Ohio State. He'd be very likely to win the QB1 job for 2020.
 

TSchekler

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Club Member
I'd take Tate at CU. He looked good when he got in at Ohio State. He'd be very likely to win the QB1 job for 2020.
Unless he was pure garbage, he would for sure be QB1 here in 2020. For all the teasing in this thread, I’d for sure take him here
 

Duff Man

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He’s probably better than Lytle, Stenstrom or Noyer, and is Lewis a day one starter? Is there a grad transfer who would be better?
Tate Martell leading a younger team without many veteran leaders on offense? That'll be great.

He may be 3rd on the depth chart on Miami.
 
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