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2020 CU football season POSTPONED until 2021.... or Thanksgiving?

onealcd

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Completely playing politics and deflecting
The ****ty thing for Scott is that he can’t come out and say that because they are trying to get to play. It’s annoying as hell though. Seems like newsome is talking about those workouts where they go in groups, not practice or playing football like he granted for the professional teams.
 

Shldr2Shldr

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But aren't they both right here, technically speaking? There may be nothing in the state guidelines preventing teams from practicing but it sounds like county guidelines are the real issue here

But how can LA County allow the Rams and Chargers to practice with full rosters and full contact but not USC or UCLA?
 

NewEra 2014

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You have a reading comprehension problem if you think I’m rooting for people to get sick and die. I’ve demanded better governmental action since the beginning. Public Universities making things worse with a dreadful response by letting teams play in spite of major outbreaks can be added to the horrific response you describe.
No, but you are rooting for COVID to shut down college sports due to number of cases, which is a meaningless statistic, particularly for college-aged kids.

According to the CDC:
43,000,000 kids between the ages of 15 and 24
21,000 positive tests
333 died of COVID 19
687 died of influenza/Pneumonia and/or COVID

The number of hospitalizations for COVID due to these "major outbreaks" at colleges is practically zero.
 

onealcd

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But how can LA County allow the Rams and Chargers to practice with full rosters and full contact but not USC or UCLA?
Because they have daily rapid testing, the pac 12 does now too so the California government needs to grant them the same permission.
 

onealcd

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The PAC12 partnership with Quidel was announced 2 weeks ago. Larry Scott should have been on the phone that morning with Newsom.
They don’t have access to the tests until the end of the month. I’m sure the schools have been in contact with their local health officials.
 

BuffsNYC

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"See, the smartest university Presidents agree with my assessment! Football is NOT SAFE"
<Same University President reverses course after conducting more research>
"They're either lying because of money, or they must have been outvoted!"
Has the Ivy League decided to play football this fall? Why not? The positive rate in NY, NJ, NH, CT, and MA is minuscule compared to SEC land.
 

Shldr2Shldr

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They don’t have access to the tests until the end of the month. I’m sure the schools have been in contact with their local health officials.
Perhaps, but it sure doesn't sound like Larry Scott had been in touch with Gov. Newsom until today...
 

onealcd

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Perhaps, but it sure doesn't sound like Larry Scott had been in touch with Gov. Newsom until today...
I wouldn’t go that far, in sure he is more than aware of the situation. Newsome just said there is nothing prohibiting them playing when it clearly says they cannot hey in groups of more than 12 people so he clearly doesn’t know what he is talking about.
 

onealcd

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Hilarious. Guys responsible for 40+ million Californians in the time of Covid and uncontrollable wildfires and he’s playing politics with . . . college football.

Get a ****ing grip, people.
He is deflecting blame, saying his policies don’t prohibit the teams from playing football when they do exactly that.
 

ahoelsken

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You can go find the articles from the summer where he granted permission for the professional sports teams to practice play and left out the college teams. Oregon governor did the same thing and came out today saying they look forward to talking with the schools about their protocols to grant them access. Seems like silly politics from newsome to me
The only thing I can find that can make practice hard for California teams would be California's rule preventing teams of more than 12 from gathering. LA County's only rule is simply follow the state's rules. Newsom might have been trying to argue that the conditions he put on the NFL resuming would apply to the Pac 12, too. I don't know-I haven't seen a clip of his comments.


 

TSchekler

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Hilarious. Guy’s responsible for 40+ million Californians in the time of Covid and uncontrollable wildfires and he’s playing politics with . . . college football.
Yes. That's exactly what he's doing by making these comments which he is going out of his way to do right now.
 

Shldr2Shldr

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I wouldn’t go that far, in sure he is more than aware of the situation. Newsome just said there is nothing prohibiting them playing when it clearly says they cannot hey in groups of more than 12 people so he clearly doesn’t know what he is talking about.
The only state guideline as it pertains to practice, is that practice should be organized by "cohorts" of 6-12. It states a cohort should consistently practice together. It does not say they must practice together all the time. It doesn't specify how far apart cohorts can practice from each other.

It sounds an awful lot like the guidelines are in place to enhance the ability of a coaching staff to perform contact tracing.

If Gov. Newsom is saying (and not lying) there are no limitations for Pac-12 football to play games, then I don't know what else you can infer from the guidelines.
 

onealcd

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The only state guideline as it pertains to practice, is that practice should be organized by "cohorts" of 6-12. It states a cohort should consistently practice together. It does not say they must practice together all the time. It doesn't specify how far apart cohorts can practice from each other.

It sounds an awful lot like the guidelines are in place to enhance the ability of a coaching staff to perform contact tracing.

If Gov. Newsom is saying (and not lying) there are no limitations for Pac-12 football to play games, then I don't know what else you can infer from the guidelines.
Okay if you can only practice with groups of 12 people then how can you practice football?
 

Shldr2Shldr

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Okay if you can only practice with groups of 12 people then how can you practice football?
Here are the guidelines straight from CDPH

5. Physical Distancing Guidelines
  1. Prioritize outdoor practice and play, as much as possible.
  2. Train in Cohorts. IHEs should establish cohorts as a strategy to minimize the potential spread of COVID-19. A cohort may be composed of six to 12 individuals, all members of the same team, who consistently work out and participate in activities together. Cohorts should avoid mixing with other groups.
  3. Keep different cohorts separate. Consider using signs, cones, or tape to make dividing lines clear.
  4. Particularly for athletes in high contact risk sports as defined previously, to the greatest extent practicable provide dedicated on-campus housing and classrooms separate from the rest of campus to minimize transmission risks during training and conditioning.
  5. Athletes and coaches should maintain at least six feet of separation from others when not on the field of play or otherwise engaged in play/activity, where feasible.
  6. Create distance between players when explaining drills, rules of the game, or huddling.
  7. Limit the number of players sitting in confined player seating areas (e.g., dugouts) by allowing players to spread out into spectator areas if more space is available.
  8. Prohibit unnecessary physical contact such as high fives, handshake lines, and other physical contact with teammates, opposing teams, coaches, umpires, and fans. Coaches should regularly review physical distancing rules with athletes.
  9. Consider providing physical guides, such as signs and tape on floors or playing fields, to make sure that coaches and players remain at least six feet apart.
  10. Maintain at least six feet of distance between players while participating in the sport whenever possible (e.g., during warm-up, skill-building activities, simulation drills).
  11. Officials should maintain six feet of separation from others and when interacting with athletes and coaches off the field of play. Officials should avoid exchanging documents or equipment with players and coaches. This may require digital entry of lineups, and other adjustments.
  12. If practice or competition facilities must be shared, consider increasing the amount of time between practices and competitions to allow for one group to leave before another group enters the facility. For facilities that may be shared with the broader campus community, dedicate separate time for team use. If possible, allow time for cleaning and/or disinfecting.
  13. Physical distancing protocols should be used in any high-density, hightraffic areas.
  14. Meetings and trainings should be conducted virtually, or outdoors, and in areas that allow for appropriate physical distancing between staff, athletes or other workers.
  15. Stagger breaks, in compliance with wage and hour regulations where relevant, to maintain physical distancing protocols.
  16. Consider offering workers who request modified duties options that minimize their contact with athletes, coaches, officials, and other workers.
Number 2 and number 3 appear to apply to TRAINING only.

Number 5 seems to address how you can play football.

I swear, if the Pac12 is not playing football because they just read to number two and stopped...
 
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