Like giving your kid brother a controller that is not plugged in.
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Fire Prime
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Like giving your kid brother a controller that is not plugged in.
UBL, but yes.
Any of our quarterbacks would have looked good against Iowa State. That game was simply in the bag, which is why a lot of us were calling for JuJu.
Andre Hart as our new DC? Pass the bottle....
A lot were. But I think just as many thought Salter gave us the best chance to win. I didn't see the TCU game. But he did look good vs ISU. Throwing JuJu in at Utah would have been a mistake.
I don't know. Prime is trying to win. I can see why he stuck with Salter as long as he did. Just a crappy situation. You think you have a decent one-year starter to bridge the gap, and he ends up being atrocious (but at times looks good - which made it more difficult to switch).
GRM
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I like the guys putting some positive/realistic spin on some of this. For others, it sounds like the sky is falling?
Cancel your season tix, when for the last three years you could sell 1/2 the games above face value....
Let's just face it: CFB is in such a state of flux with unprecedented transfer portal, NIL, massive coaching changes, etc... etc... it's seems outside of the few Bluebloods, Lane Kiffin, Curt Cig and a maybe few others there could be a recipe, but not many others. IMO, there is no set recipe at this point. Look at Dabo's struggles this year, did he just recruit a bunch of HS hacks 3-4 years ago? Look at the guys already fired, I guess they are all hacks too, so let's jump on the train?
Thogdor do you want the job? If so, send in a resume or "Go play intramurals..." Can you bring the sort of exposure that Prime brings to CU's football irrelevance over 20 years inheriting a 1-11 roster? Can you do it? Do you know who can? Shortlist: i.e.coaches CU can afford and will replace the outgoing infrastructure Prime brought with him? I mean Midnight Smell (pew... we dodged a bullet there!!) left here after 1 season.
Remember, when you replace Prime, it has to be with someone better in basically all aspects, however unfortunately the last time I checked we are not ND, Mich, Ore, Georgia, Bama or a few others... CFB is much bigger than just AC's and coordinators, however I think those can and will change under Prime. I guess it might not ever be the "identity" you are looking for. Maybe you want Matty Rhule, who just got punked at home again by a ranked team, 29 in a row and counting!
When CU/RG hired Prime, I don't think it was for his vast coaching experience or X's & O's. He has taken responsibilty to right the ship, so why turn on him when some adversity hits? Last time I checked, if there could be a generalization about football at all levels, excpect for Trent Dilfer leading the Bucs to a SB ring, sub-par QB play = sub-par results. Poor QB play w/ TO's = very bad gameday results. However, for next season we have Juju and he is 17/18. Sorry Juju is not ready yet, but Prime at least had us in the Bryce Underwood sweapstakes... This season sort of feels like a Jordan Webb, although we have competed in most all the games.
For those preaching HS recruiting and against the transfer portal/mercenary football, take a gander at Ourlads for depth charts. Teams turning it around = great portal; great teams filling certain holes = good portal; failing teams = bad portal or maybe not enough portal. Ask the mullet. Also portal = $$$ (Tex Tech). It is just a new CFB landscape that we have to embrace.
For @Corey Trevorson who makes it sound like CU's recruiting/portaling has just collapsed (i.e. the sky is falling): (a) hasn't Prime always been portal heavy; (b) hasn't Prime tended to close during the portal and end-of-recruiting period (i.e. flipping); and (c) is the portal even really open yet?
This year, at least we have some Frosh/Soph playing and other high quality gets (whether 247 or whoever gets it right, who knows?) and a bunch of other guys red-shirting. Fact is, Prime's HS recruits probably would not be playing unless they were quality, and many are as underclassman. Yet most expect this to be a Vet bunch for most of HS guys, however Prime is really only into HS recruiting class #2, as he was hired later in the process and we needed an immediate roster overhaul.
P.S.--when you look at the Ourlads stuff, except for the few already established BlueBloods, look at the two-deeps (42 guys). Most of those teams: IN 24 transfers and a bunch of FR/SO; VA 26; AZ (who just kicked us) 27, expect for Fifita the entire starting O is transfers; Vandy 24; UW 21 and a bunch of SO/FR; Cinci (one game out of 1st place) 26 and the rest a basically SO/FR in the 2 deep!
Sure. Maybe lying was the wrong term. As someone pointed out, KD was fired by then but it’s disingenuous to believe the three best teams on the schedule wouldn’t have had a similar output when we were getting rolled all season long. People are acting like this is uncharted territory when, unfortunately, it’s not.
Mick Ronson
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I read in a thread, maybe not this one and I tried a little to find them, a couple posts that said since Juju didn't play other teams with bags wouldn't come after him....because he didn't show anything. I think that is crazy talk.
also the #1 HS QB in his year Jackson Arnold was awful at OU last year as a RS. A turnover machine, ints and fumbles in crucial situations. Terrible decision making, can't make reads.....and for showing that he got a lateral move to Auburn and surely some cheddar $$. and he got benched this year and his coach fired.
To sum up: Jackson Arnold showed he was not ready to play big-time P5 level football and still got money to try again.
Something will have to be done to keep Juju. Status quo won't cut it.
also the #1 HS QB in his year Jackson Arnold was awful at OU last year as a RS. A turnover machine, ints and fumbles in crucial situations. Terrible decision making, can't make reads.....and for showing that he got a lateral move to Auburn and surely some cheddar $$. and he got benched this year and his coach fired.
To sum up: Jackson Arnold showed he was not ready to play big-time P5 level football and still got money to try again.
Something will have to be done to keep Juju. Status quo won't cut it.
1. Prime has ****ed this season up in epic fashion. For example, in year 3 he's done worse than Tad has done in any of his 13 seasons or whatever. By far. His team quit on him with bowl eligibility and a decent season still possible. It's not like they quit after going 0 and 5 or whatever. They had something to play for, and straight quit. The team he built with the staff he hand picked! That's about as bad as it gets. Horrible coaching job. Excuses or reasons or whatever - every team has problems. Prime pushed so many wrong buttons he blew the thing up.
2. Saving this season means getting to a bowl game. Doing that would be incredible given the last 2 games. It would be quite the redemption.
3. Just not being an embarrassing mess from here on out would in the "there is still hope" and "good sign" realm.
4. Right now, Prime is an irrelevant joke of a coach and CU is a joke once again. He's gonna have to prove that he's worthy of the benefit of the doubt again.
2. Saving this season means getting to a bowl game. Doing that would be incredible given the last 2 games. It would be quite the redemption.
3. Just not being an embarrassing mess from here on out would in the "there is still hope" and "good sign" realm.
4. Right now, Prime is an irrelevant joke of a coach and CU is a joke once again. He's gonna have to prove that he's worthy of the benefit of the doubt again.
There is absolutely no way that can be real. Deion gives the most worthless/clueless coach a promotion to DC? If true, Deion is trying to be fired and keep the cash - no way Hart is promoted.
I think he’s joking lol
Also - I don’t want to hear about how strong recruiting is when we’re actually relatively mid and outspending most conference peers. That’s not even the bad part….
I don’t want to hear how recruiting isn’t that bad when our roster is only ~60% full. OVER HALF OF THOSE ARE SENIORS
It’s year 3. We’ve churned and burned so many ****ing kids and the school got a black eye for it. Now… the team that he ripped to the studs twice is absolute dog**** and has the numbers of a Charlie Weis KU roster
Winning allows you to hand wave away the importance of building culture. Make fun of the fight song or whatever tradition / shared experience he’s ignored if you want. This is what happens when you ignore culture and developing for the future. A mentally weak group of individuals. Totally pathetic and not worth the money
I asked earlier in the season if this, after all the turnover and increased spending, could beat a MikeMac 5-7 team….. nope
Now is the time for Prime to put up or shut up. I really, really hope the changes, whatever they are, work.
Year one was pretty easy to overlook the deficiencies because he was retooling. Year two was a success, but was an underachievement to a small degree, given the talent on that roster, especially getting punked in the Alamo bowl by the Mormons.
Year three has been a disaster. I am not going to repeat what we have all observed time and again, but Prime's big talk goes sour pretty fast if CU keeps getting beat.
Year one was pretty easy to overlook the deficiencies because he was retooling. Year two was a success, but was an underachievement to a small degree, given the talent on that roster, especially getting punked in the Alamo bowl by the Mormons.
Year three has been a disaster. I am not going to repeat what we have all observed time and again, but Prime's big talk goes sour pretty fast if CU keeps getting beat.
2nd year of Embree 2012, first year of MacIntyre 2013, 3rd year of Dorrell 2022 were unwatchable. Those were some of the worst teams in college football history.
1st year of Embree 2011, 2nd year of MacIntyre 2014, 2nd year of Dorrell 2021. Those were all so abysmal. But not quite gouge-your-eyes out type bad.
For some reason I don't recall any Hawkins years where I needed to ice-cream-scoop my eye sockets out. 2006 2-10 was bad. But I think we were quasi competitive for some of those games.
It’s a bad comparison. And it’s there to suggest Prime is no better than Dorrell.
Despite this year’s frustrations, I feel one-hundred times better about this program now, than I did in year three of Dorrell. That was some dark, bleak sh*t.
And even if it falls apart, I have a sense of gratitude for Prime lifting us out of that dumpster fire. Dorrell never provided anything that deserved gratitude.
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This is highly overblown. As I've stated before the issues have been the swing and misses in the portal at QB this year. Salter has times when he has looked good enough to win but he's just bad enough to lose you the game. Then there's times when he's been very bad.
Better QB Play, Better Health, and Better Depth and this team would be either 4-5 or 5-4 and as it should be for this season.
A few of the hype items I never bought into. The WR room is better this year, and Drelon is going to be elite. He's very versatile but we graduated a room of NFL caliber WR's and he's just a True Soph. I just can't fathom why people were saying that was going to be a better group.
The DL is better and deeper this year. Which yes, I think we have a haul of DT/DE's this year if they were all healthy but none of these guys were better than the players in front of them last year. We lost a damn good DT and a couple very good DE's. One to the NFL and a couple to other colleges.
Add Big misses at LB (losing our stud) and at DB (losing our stud) removed some of the elite ness of the previous team. Probably also removed some of the leadership.
It all equates to a team that isn't as talented as they were told they are and lacks some of the leadership of previous teams. This isn't a fire coach prime issue (although he has major accountability for roster construction and coordinator issues (I personally don't know if I believe the D coord is that bad).
The good news is he can retool and re invigorate hope with the absolute best of them. You don't fire CP. You figure out a way to get him more money so he can get a few more pieces next year on the roster, you get him a better offensive coordinator and a few better consultants and 1 more absolutely amazing recruiter. He is going to recruit you a Top 20 QB every few years, Top 20 WR's/Athletes, and a bring in a handful of Top 500 recruits. That's light years above anyone we've had recently except the dude from Georgia who bolted on us. He has righted the sinking ship and he deserves a 5 year leash to get a few cracks at getting players in here who can keep this program at 7-8 wins per year.
I would challenge anyone who says fire coach prime to list viable alternatives at Head coach who can recruit top kids, who can generate media attention, and who can keep Colorado from going back to the bottom with G5 talent.
Better QB Play, Better Health, and Better Depth and this team would be either 4-5 or 5-4 and as it should be for this season.
A few of the hype items I never bought into. The WR room is better this year, and Drelon is going to be elite. He's very versatile but we graduated a room of NFL caliber WR's and he's just a True Soph. I just can't fathom why people were saying that was going to be a better group.
The DL is better and deeper this year. Which yes, I think we have a haul of DT/DE's this year if they were all healthy but none of these guys were better than the players in front of them last year. We lost a damn good DT and a couple very good DE's. One to the NFL and a couple to other colleges.
Add Big misses at LB (losing our stud) and at DB (losing our stud) removed some of the elite ness of the previous team. Probably also removed some of the leadership.
It all equates to a team that isn't as talented as they were told they are and lacks some of the leadership of previous teams. This isn't a fire coach prime issue (although he has major accountability for roster construction and coordinator issues (I personally don't know if I believe the D coord is that bad).
The good news is he can retool and re invigorate hope with the absolute best of them. You don't fire CP. You figure out a way to get him more money so he can get a few more pieces next year on the roster, you get him a better offensive coordinator and a few better consultants and 1 more absolutely amazing recruiter. He is going to recruit you a Top 20 QB every few years, Top 20 WR's/Athletes, and a bring in a handful of Top 500 recruits. That's light years above anyone we've had recently except the dude from Georgia who bolted on us. He has righted the sinking ship and he deserves a 5 year leash to get a few cracks at getting players in here who can keep this program at 7-8 wins per year.
I would challenge anyone who says fire coach prime to list viable alternatives at Head coach who can recruit top kids, who can generate media attention, and who can keep Colorado from going back to the bottom with G5 talent.
Pilotbuff
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Cue Lama on what the biggest problem is in
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MCskid
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I think he's helping his cuz wash the jock straps
Since no one else has let you know, I’ll do it. Your first jock strap post was cringey. Now it’s getting weird. You’re approaching “Seek professional help” territory.
This is just a long bull**** post, with self-contradictory paragraph after paragraph after blah blah blah.
There is only one requirement for this job ... win 7 games every year.
Prime can't win 7 games/year. Hopefully next year, but to do that, he's going to have to flip half the roster and at least half the staff, because, well he didn't come close to winning 7 games this year, and a Heisman and Unitas winner isn't walking through that door again to save him.
The Vegas over/under for 2026 wins will be 5.5, I'd bet. Smart money probably says he will have two consecutive losing seasons and 3 out of the last 4 by 2027.
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| 2000 | Penn State | 5–7 | 4–4 | T–6th | |
| 2001 | Penn State | 5–6 | 4–4 | T–4th | |
| 2002 | Penn State | 9–4 | 5–3 | 4th | L Capital One |
| 2003 | Penn State | 3–9 | 1–7 | T–8th | |
| 2004 | Penn State | 4–7 | 2–6 | 9th | |
| 2005 | Penn State | 11–1 | 7–1 | T–1st | W Orange† |
| 2006 | Penn State | 9–4 | 5–3 | T–4th | W Outback |
| 2007 | Penn State | 9–4 | 4–4 | T–5th | W Alamo |
| 2008 | Penn State | 11–2 | 7–1 | T–1st | L Rose† |
| 2009 | Penn State | 11–2 | 6–2 |
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