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If Prime retires for health reasons, who/what are you looking for with the next HC?
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You haven't fired anyone since Embree!
Todd Saliman big dicks any perennial top 25 team paying their HC less than what we’re paying Prime
Absolutely not. Fire RG or let him retire, do not let him hire anyone.
No on RG
He wants to retire
New AD with dynamic coach
South Florida Coach and players?
He wants to retire
New AD with dynamic coach
South Florida Coach and players?
Prime also has a super fine girlfriend, Shedeur is on his heels, Shilo is out of football, looks obvious.
Very appreciative and yet very frustrated
Very appreciative and yet very frustrated
If it happens, our best case scenario would be a pissed off bounce back to get a Homecoming win over Zona. Then get 2/3 for bowl eligibility with Prime announcing after the bowl game.
An athletic director hiring a coach who has both feet out the door sounds like a great plan. Best case scenario is Prime gives CU one more year, rights the ship next year and get to a bowl game. Then retires and give a new AD and administration the ability to hire who they want.
G5 guy. Proven winner.
There are so many teams playing good ball right now with lesser talent and garbage for NIL.
Houston, Cincinatti, Arizona, South Florida, Navy, Tulane, Memphis, North Texas, Temple, Virginia, Pitt, Duke, Cal, Stanford, Northwestern, Miami-OH, Hawaii, WSU, Mizzou, Miss St., JMU, Troy and on and on.
****ing Arizona is competitive. Brennan has them playing decently, albeit outmanned. Much less NIL spent.
If Prime is going to win, he has to find a proven OC who can win in college. And he needs to let go of his friends and let his coordinators make the hires. And lets get the hall of fame visitors out of the mix. This adds nothing but distraction.
Lastly, NFL coaches are worthless here. Every team we've lost to (minus TCU) has exploited the QB running game.
Ga Tech - 156 yds
Houston - 80+ yds
BYU - 98 yds
Utah - 154 yds
You'd think that an NFL coach could figure out that this is a different strategy than he saw with the Bengals? Hello???
There are so many teams playing good ball right now with lesser talent and garbage for NIL.
Houston, Cincinatti, Arizona, South Florida, Navy, Tulane, Memphis, North Texas, Temple, Virginia, Pitt, Duke, Cal, Stanford, Northwestern, Miami-OH, Hawaii, WSU, Mizzou, Miss St., JMU, Troy and on and on.
****ing Arizona is competitive. Brennan has them playing decently, albeit outmanned. Much less NIL spent.
If Prime is going to win, he has to find a proven OC who can win in college. And he needs to let go of his friends and let his coordinators make the hires. And lets get the hall of fame visitors out of the mix. This adds nothing but distraction.
Lastly, NFL coaches are worthless here. Every team we've lost to (minus TCU) has exploited the QB running game.
Ga Tech - 156 yds
Houston - 80+ yds
BYU - 98 yds
Utah - 154 yds
You'd think that an NFL coach could figure out that this is a different strategy than he saw with the Bengals? Hello???
Where does CU rank among these currently open or potentially open jobs in this cycle?
Penn State
Arkansas
UCLA
Oklahoma State
Stanford
Florida
Virginia Tech
Wisconsin
FSU
Auburn
LSU
Baylor
Texas
Plenty more will come open and some in the second group might not actually be open this cycle, but where does CU rank among this group? Maybe above Stanford? Maybe on par with Baylor and Wisconsin, even though Baylor is in Texas and Wisconsin has a lot more money and is in the B1G?
It’s not a good cycle to be a CU type program looking for a HC, unless they are willing/able to pay $10m+/year and maintain the same institutional control and resource allocation (or more) that they gave Prime.
Penn State
Arkansas
UCLA
Oklahoma State
Stanford
Florida
Virginia Tech
Wisconsin
FSU
Auburn
LSU
Baylor
Texas
Plenty more will come open and some in the second group might not actually be open this cycle, but where does CU rank among this group? Maybe above Stanford? Maybe on par with Baylor and Wisconsin, even though Baylor is in Texas and Wisconsin has a lot more money and is in the B1G?
It’s not a good cycle to be a CU type program looking for a HC, unless they are willing/able to pay $10m+/year and maintain the same institutional control and resource allocation (or more) that they gave Prime.
James Franklin is going to be involved with all the top openings. The new CU Boulder Chancellor came from Penn State, so maybe he has a relationship with Franklin (I doubt it), but outside of some miracle like that, there’s no real chance he would be here. I’d be on board with Fitzgerald but I can’t see CU hiring a guy who was fired for the hazing allegations, unless he’s been entirely exonerated.
I told you we should have put the Anna Kendrick thread in Barzil!
Realistically, how much longer is RG going to stay. He’s been hinting at retirement for quite a while now. I know he is the lynch pin to Prime, but is that as big of a deal as it was before?
I'm pretty sure that RG was ready to hire Bronco and had thrown in the towel on the negotiations with Prime. That it was a booster rebellion to that and Bloom's involvement which made it happen. Not that RG hasn't embraced it and bent over backwards to give Prime everything he asks for or that they don't have a strong relationship, but it's not like Prime is only here because of RG. The biggest concern I'd have on a new AD and the Prime relationship would be on whether the new AD would share the same vision regarding the commitment to the Big 12 and Yormark.
Here's what I would see as our blue sky scenario:
1. Prime rights the ship in football this year and next.
2. RG secures the financial commitments to fund the Folsom renovation and expansion this academic year, then walks off into the sunset.
3. New AD focuses on positioning CU for B1G or SEC membership. That means football excellence, but it also means the entire resume.
Something I've been kicking around is the question of what Prime could do that wouldn't be as hard on his health, allow him to continue being paid a lot of money, and have him do something that would be impactful for CU and also something he'd feel passionate about. I think that could be him being in charge of re-launching baseball at CU by getting a stadium complex built and becoming the first coach. I think the stars could align with that, especially if RG took a role in baseball with the Rox and Bloom became AD.
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
You may know better than I would, but I'm fairly confident that Melvin was a Sexton client at the time he was hired here. I think that's water under the bridge. Sexton was the one who negotiated that $95M contract he got from Michigan State.
Of the two names I threw out-Franklin is a Sexton client, but he's probably going to get to pick the job he wants. He's going to have interest from everybody with an opening outside of Florida-who it seems like is focusing on Kiffin or Drinkwitz. Pat Fitzgerald is not a Sexton client. I think he'll get back in, but I'm not sure where. Wisconsin might make sense if they move on from Luke Fickell. I get the argument that he works at Stanford given the academic reputation of both them and NW, but do you want to have to sell him if you're Andrew Luck?
Saliman is the only one. He's the odd ball. Either he is the aces up our sleeve or an off suit 2-7. So far, he's proven to be aces.
I mean, the yearly operating budget for CU as a system is multiple Billions. With a B. If any CU president can't see the value of not pinching a million here or there in football, then we are absolutely ****ed forever.
Gary Barnett is the coach who elevated Northwestern from laughing stock to good. Pat Fitzgerald had a very up and down tenure. If you want a coach who is likely to hover between 4-8 and 8-4, sure. I want to be in the mix for the Big 12 title most years with 7-5 being a bad year. Pat Fitzgerald is not going to get us there. I think he would likely be worse here than at Northwestern. The transfer portal/NIL era is a whole different ballgame.
Plus, the hazing scandal. No thanks.
0.00% shot
MCskid
Well-Known Member
This! prime's had a helluva ride with his health these past few years. if can clean house, build a competent staff, hire a really good cfb oc and dc and do in home visits we could possibly be elite with a shot at a natty. he's the only one that even has a route shot at this at cu. if he were, god forbid, to retire we should not even think twice and hire Ryan Walters. every other coach would use us as a stepping stone. Walters might also but we would at least have a chance of him staying for the long haul and building something great.
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
You'd rather hire the Irish guy from Boston who got ****-canned?