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Races Thread - CROSS COUNTRY at 2022 NCAA Mountain Regional (Albuquerque, Friday, 11/11, 1st race 11:00 AM MT)

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Starting to see some info become available, so thought I'd start this thread now.

The men's and women's cross country (XC) teams race towards their next goal, qualifying for the NCAA Championships (scheduled for Saturday, Nov. 19th in Stillwater, Oklahoma), by racing at the NCAA Mountain Regional this Friday, November 11th. This regional, one of nine nationwide, is being hosted this year by New Mexico in Albuquerque. (Don't know if it's true in this case, but most XC purists seem to pooh pooh races at golf courses, which seems to be a popular/ common decision, as soft, and this year's regionals are shown as being at the U. of New Mexico's golf course. With Nationals only 8 days later, probably not a bad thing to do anything possible to lessen, however slightly, the wear and tear on the runners who advance.)

The women's race is scheduled to start at 11:00 AM MT, with the men's following at noon. Unfortunately, as usual for regonals, I can’t see any indication that any video coverage planned.

Some notes (just copied from my 2019 regional thread) about qualifying (I did modify the paragraph a little where I change it to note THIS year's situations vs. 2019's.):

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  • 9 regional races will determine which 31 teams for each gender get selected for the Championships.
    • The top 2 finishing teams in each of the regions are the 18 auto-qualifiers.
    • The remaining 13 teams are "At-large" selections. Unlike the team sport selection process most of us are familiar with (with their selection committees), the at-large teams in cross country are selected almost totally on a mathematical calculation based on how many wins the next highest regional finishers have accumulated over the 18 auto-qualifiers, and any other teams that have earned at-large berths earlier in the process (with a few exceptions). (The wins over other all ready selected teams are called "Kolas points".)
    • The at-large calculation has quite a few rules. For those interested, here's what looks to me like a couple decent descriptions of the process and rules - https://www.thestridereport.com/understanding-kolas . (The link to the left was the most succinct and isolated explanation I could find. The full explanation can also be found starting on page #14 at https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/ch...crosscountry/2022_23D1XCC_PreChampsManual.pdf .)
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For this year, the Mountain Region looks to be as challenging for the Buffs as I've ever seen it (maybe partly because they're both ranked lower than normal?), at least near the top, and it typically has already been one or two of the toughest (with the West and or Midwest also periodically being tough) in the country. In the most recent NATIONAL polls (released right after conference weekend), the Buff women are ranked #8 and men #9 in the COUNTRY, but for both their ranking only equates to #4 Mountain regional rankings. (The women are behind #2 nationally ranked New Mexico, #4 Northern Arizona (NAU) and #6 BYU, while the men are behind #2 BYU, #3 NAU and #5 Air Force).) And the women are also VERY close to being regional #5, as right behind them in the national rankings at #9 is Utah, who the women BARELY beat at Pac 12's in a tie breaker. I'd guess it's been quite a few years since the men or women haven't finished in the Top 3. But just to give minimal requirements to advance this year- I believe 4th place finishes for either team will hopefully be enough (although neither team has been as dominant this season as most past seasons) to keep their qualifying totally "in their own hands" rather than having to have "help" from other schools in the involved mathematical (Kolas points) process which is NCAA cross country qualifying. (This is due to the "Pushing" process included in the selection process explained in the detail description linked to above.)

The preliminary list of potential Mountain Region runners selected by the teams was recently released at https://www.rtspt.com/events/ncaa/d1mtnxc22/entries.pdf . It's from this list that the 7 runners per gender needs to be selected for Friday's races. (For the Buffs, 9 women and 11 men are listed as the potential runners Friday. I'm not sure and too lazy to confirm rather anyone not on the regional selection list can run at the Championship FINALS or not?)

A few other Links:

Host New Mexico regionals homepage
- https://golobos.com/2022-ncaa-cross-country-albuquerque-regional/

Mountain Regional Participant Manual (with schedule, course maps, spectator and team info, etc.) - https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/ch.../2022-23D1XCC_NexMexico_ParticipantManual.pdf

NCAA's regionals' link and information page (for ALL regions) - https://www.ncaa.org/sports/2013/11/7/division-i-men-s-and-women-s-cross-country.aspx

Live results - https://www.rtspt.com/events/ncaa/d1mtnxc22/
 
Not sure it will happen***, but at least per https://www.watchathletics.com/schedule/watchlive/6926 (thanks to a letsrun.com forum poster for the link), the Mountain regionals may be getting streamed on the Mountain West web platform. If they are, then the link per the 1st link to view it is https://themw.com/watch/?id=6314407290112 .

(*** Not too confident this will streaming will actually happen, as I can't find anything on either New Mexico's or NCAA sites confirming or listing a stream. I do see that when New Mexico hosted the Mountain West Conference Championships a couple weeks ago, that was streamed, so assume streaming the regionals is at least not out of the question.)
 
Only one night separates the teams from their regional races as they try to (1) survive and advance while (2) using minimal effort so as to be as fresh as possible for next week's Championships' races.

 
Preview for tomorrow's regionals -




Direct link - https://cubuffs.com/news/2022/11/10...eek-ncaa-qualifier-at-mountain-regionals.aspx

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BOULDER — The University of Colorado cross country program hopes to punch its tickets to the NCAA Championships as they head down to Albuquerque, New Mexico, for the NCAA Mountain Regional Championship Friday.

The women's 6k race will begin at 11 a.m. MT. on Friday, while the men will jump up to the 10k for the first time this season at noon MT Friday. Both the men's and women's races will take place at the UNM North Golf Course in Albuquerque, seeking a top-two finish for an automatic qualifying bid to the NCAA Championships.

The women's team, fresh off a Pac-12 Championship title, come into the weekend ranked No.8 in the NCAA and fourth in the region. Host school New Mexico is first and has a No. 2 NCAA ranking, Northern Arizona is second, BYU is third. Utah, who CU edged in a tie-breaker for the Pac-12 title, rounds out the top five at fifth. All five programs are ranked in the top ten nationally.

The women will look to build off their success at the Pac-12 Championships where Bailey Hertenstein took home the title with Emily Covert close behind in third. Ella Baran had an outstanding race, finishing seventh overall, while Kaitlyn Barthell was 16th and Gabrielle Orie was 42nd. Alisa Meraz-Fishbein and Whitney Valenti rounded out the top seven in 54th and 64th, respectfully.

All of the top women's teams in the region met at the Nuttycombe Invitational where New Mexico lost in a tiebreaker to NC State by one runner position. Hertenstein was the second Mountain Regional woman to cross in fifth at that race behind NAU's Elise Stearns. The team finished fifth at Nuttycombe amongst regional teams, but has had a solid second half of the season and could push for a top spot. Only 62 positions separated the Buffaloes from NAU in third, and with a smaller field, the Buffs have proven they are a force to deal with.

After finishing second at the Pac-12 Championships, the Colorado men are ranked No.9 in the NCAA and are ranked fourth in the Mountain region behind BYU, Northern Arizona and Air Force, respectfully. The Buffaloes were led by Andrew Kent at Pac-12s before a herd of Buffs crossed with six runners in the top 20.

The men's race is stacked as well, with BYU, NAU and Air Force finishing second through fourth at the Nuttycombe behind only No.1 Stanford. BYU, who scored 89 points in Wisconsin, had a strong pack presence like the Buffs did at the conference championships, running all five runners between 15th and 21st. NAU on the other hand had a pair of runners in the top five before they dropped off, and Air Force had a runner in 10th before everyone else crossed 29th to 40th. The Buffaloes are coming off one of their best pack running performances and can hang with the Cougars and Falcons to break up the scoring and slide into a top-two position.

The CU men have the longest active NCAA Championships appearances at 31 straight since 1992 with the women having made the last 30 of 31 years. If the teams do not finish in the top two, the NCAA selection show will be Saturday at 3 p.m. where the teams will seek one of the 13 at-large bids.
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I'm hoping/ thinking the women have probably (???) accomplished their mission of advancing. Unofficially they finished 5th, and with 5-6 at-large teams (in addition to 2 auto-qualifiers) anticipated to qualify out of the Mountain Region based on Kolas Points calculations I've seen in a couple running websites, they should be fine. (It does look like the usual #2 Buff runner this season had a tough time of it sometime after the 2.2 KM time interval, and was only the 4th Buff home today; hope she's OK.)
 
Unofficially, the men should also have easily qualified for next week's Championships, as they finish 3rd, or as the 1st non auto-qualifier out of the Mountain Region. (Ranked 4th going in, they got the win over Air Force, who was ranked above them.)

With their wins during the season over other teams which have already qualified throughout the 9 regions, they should easily qualify as one of the top 13 at-large selections.

Congrats to the Buff women and men - Mission accomplished (now onto a quick recovery with another LONG race only 8 days away)!!!

 
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Article after yesterday's racing -




Direct link - https://cubuffs.com/news/2022/11/11/cross-country-buffs-take-care-of-business-at-regionals.aspx

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ALBUQUERQUE — The University of Colorado cross country program picked up a pair of top-five finishes and six All-Regional selections here Friday morning at the 2022 NCAA Cross Country Mountain Regional Championships.

The men came into the race ranked ninth in the NCAA and fourth in the region, bettering that position by one with a third-place finish and upset of No.5-ranked Air Force. The men finished with 97 points, trailing only No.3 NAU with 43 points and No.2 BYU with 54 points.

"Well, I wouldn't call it an upset because everybody's running in a big pack looking around, trying to calculate how easily they can advance," said head coach Mark Wetmore. "So a position or two in our part or their part doesn't really mean anybody beat anybody. The front four or five teams are just trying to get through to next week as carefully as possible."
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The Buffaloes were without Charlie Sweeney today who will join the seven if the Buffs secure an at-large bid the to the NCAA Championships.

"The NCAA has a points system for everybody all season long," said Wetmore. "Teams that don't finish in the top two of the nine regions go into that points system. It's a little confusing when they say there will be a selection show the next day because there isn't really selections it's just a calculation of the points and our men are in. We'll add Chuck, he's completely healthy. We were just letting some other guys run that we wanted to take a look at but Chuck will go in next week."

The women came into the race eighth in the NCAA and finished fifth overall with 135 points, trailing No.2 New Mexico with 56, No.9 Utah and No.4 NAU who both finished with 103 points and No.20 CSU who pushed hard today for 121 points to try and guarantee an NCAA Championship bid.

"The women's race was not great," said Wetmore. "Our normal leaders didn't have good days. Emily has been nursing the lower leg problem that we knew was not perfect. We have eight days to get it a lot better."
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"If Bailey feels ready to mix it up up front as she did two weeks ago, if we get Emily's leg well, we can outrun our ranking," said Wetmore. "We will probably drop in the rankings a little bit from eight. I think we're eight and we'll drop from that. But we can beat it if we patch together the next seven days correctly."

Both teams of Buffaloes are expected to be one of the first at-large selections tomorrow during the NCAA Cross Country Championship Selection Show at 3 p.m. MT.

RESULTS
CU WOMEN:
11. Bailey Hertenstein, 20:21.1; 15. Ella Baran, 20:32.6; 29. Kaitlyn Barthell, 20:51.8; 37. Emily Covert 20:59.1; 44. Gabrielle Orie, 21:05.1; 82. Whitney Valenti, 22:00.0; 86. Alisa Meraz-Fishbein, 22:04.6

WOMEN'S SCORES: 1. New Mexico 56; 2. Utah 103; 3. NAU 103; 4. CSU. 121; 5. Colorado 135; 6. BYU 144; 7. Utah Valley 164; 8. Utah State 167; 9. Air Force 201; 10. Wyoming 204; 11. Weber State 363; 12. Montana State 367; 13. Southern Utah 378; 14. Nevada 403; 15. New Mexico State 409; 16. Northern Colorado 513; 17. Idaho State 514; 18. Texas Tech 544; 10. Montana 553; DNP. UTEP

MEN'S TOP-10: 1. Nico Young (NAU) 28:01.8; 2. Drew Bosley (NAU) 28:01.9; 3. Duncan Hamilton (MSU) 28:06.9; 4. Matthew Richtman (MSU) 28:07.6; 5. Brandon Garnica (BYU) 28:08.1; 6. Casey Clinger (BYU) 28:08.4; 7. Austin Vancil (COLO) 28:08.9; 8. Joey Nokes (BYU) 28:09.2; 9. Ryan Raff (NAU) 28:09.7; 10. Ryan Johnson (AF) 28:11.0

OTHER CU MEN: 12. Andrew Kent (COLO) 28:17.0; 19. Seth Hirsch (COLO) 28:19.2; 21. Brendan Fraser (COLO) 28:23.3; 38. Hunter Appleton (COLO) 28:47.6; 39. James Overberg (COLO) 28:55.3; 60. Noah Hibbard (COLO) 29:38.4

MEN'S SCORES: 1. NAU 43; 2. BYU 54; 3. Colorado 97; 4. Air Force 104; 5. Montana State 123; 6. CSU 132; 7. Utah State 198; 8. Wyoming 226; 9. New Mexico 227; 10. Utah Valley 269; 11. Southern Utah 337; 12. Nevada 341; 13. UTEP 352; 14. Weber State 357; 15. Texas Tech 437; 16. Montana 451; 17. Idaho State 523; DNP. New Mexico State
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As I've mentioned many times, with the point system the NCAA uses for cross country, I don't think there's any doubt both the men and women have qualified as one of the 31 teams per gender to race @ next Saturday' Championships. However, official notification of this will come at 3:00 PM MT today (Saturday) on the NCAA's Official Selection Show being streamed on ncaa.com

Assume a link will be available at, or the show shown directly on, https://www.ncaa.com/live-updates/c...ships-selection-show-info-schedule-events-all when the time comes.

(Of course, I'm sure the teams will also tweet out selection news as soon as it becomes available.)
 
Per the NCAA website, the selection show has been pushed back 30 minutes (to 3:30 PM MT).
 
Congrats again to the Buffs as both the men and women are now OFFICIALLY into next Saturday's Championship races!




Direct link - https://cubuffs.com/news/2022/11/12/cross-country-colorado-selected-for-ncaa-championship.aspx

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INDIANAPOLIS — The Colorado cross country program is sending both the men's and women's programs to the 2022 NCAA Cross Country Championships after being selected as one of the 13 at-large bids in each gender, the NCAA announced Saturday afternoon.

This is the 31st straight trip to the national championship for the Colorado men's team, which is the longest active men's streak. The women are advancing to their 14th consecutive trip to NCAAs and have made it to 30 of the last 31 championships.

The men finished third at the NCAA Mountain Regionals Friday and head into Championship week ranked eighth in the NCAA. The women finished fifth and are also ranked eighth in the NCAA.

The NCAA Championships will be run Saturday, Nov. 19, at the Oklahoma State Cross Country Course in Stillwater. The women will begin at 8:20 a.m. MT, followed by the men at 9:10 a.m. MT. Both will be broadcast live on ESPNU.
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