I saw some social media comments that he was doing so well because 'he had been humbled'
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Shedeur Sanders - 2023-25 Tracking History Thread - Drafted by the Cleveland Browns (NFL)
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The worst thing they can do is start Flacco or Pickett and win 8-9 games. They have to go into the next year's draft, where they have two first round picks both of which will probably be in the top 15, knowing whether they need to do what they can to trade up for a QB or if they can use both first rounders to add pieces and build around Shedeur or Gabriel.
Too bad it went down the way it did. The cream will rise to the top but it still cost Shedeur like $20 mil
BuffLuke80
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Well, that takes the pressure off of them. Nobody expects anything from them. Question is, what do they expect or demand of themselves.
BuffLuke80
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He can make that up with performance.
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Yep! I do believe that was an issue last year. Everyone thought they were going to compete for a title within that building. I even heard they had a soft and weak summer last year which they realized was a mistake.
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Flacco or Pickett isn't playing 17 games unless it's split.
That would be the worst thing for Shedeur and Dillon as it means they aren't the now or the future.
That's why at least being QB2 is critical for Shedeur. Obviously, he wants to win the job, I don't know how feasible that is yet. We won't know till TC.
Jaxon Dart spins and pats the ball. First rounder!
Ball patting from future HOFers.
BuffLuke80
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I don't know why some are making such a big deal about this patting the ball bullshvt.
Winning 8 or 9 with Flacco or Pickett isn't a concern.
Flacco is old and done, it would be a shock if he stays healthy for 8 or 9 games. Pickett just isn't any good.
Fully expect that Flacco or less likely Pickett is the starter for the first 1/3 of the season then is replaced by a rookie. Shedeur is a better QB than Gabriel but Gabriel may get the first look because they want to justify drafting him earlier.
Long run Shedeur should end up as their starter. On paper they are a young team with talent and more incoming.
Bad news for Shedeur is that they are still the Browns so there is no guarantee of future competence in the front office. (and drafting Gabriel in the same draft as Shedeur is another typical Browns headscratcher.)
Because social media aggregates all of the dumbest sob's on the internet and these idiots create a lot of engagement
I’ve never agreed with the accusations that Shedeur is “entitled.” In most of his press conferences that I’ve seen he has been thoughtful, well spoken and mature.
From the little I’ve read, he is doing everything right in Cleveland. He showed up, worked hard, reached out to teammates and performed well. I don’t understand human psychology that wants to see someone fail, but there are a lot of people who want to see Shedeur fail. He’s being held to a higher standard than just about any NFL rookie that I can recall.
From the little I’ve read, he is doing everything right in Cleveland. He showed up, worked hard, reached out to teammates and performed well. I don’t understand human psychology that wants to see someone fail, but there are a lot of people who want to see Shedeur fail. He’s being held to a higher standard than just about any NFL rookie that I can recall.
Simple,
He is being hated on because his dad has refused to comply with what the old white guys in the media, the coaching profession, etc. think a Black man should look and act like. They resent that he has been as successful as he has been and done it without bowing to them.
Shedeur has followed his lead and thus they transfer the hate to him.
They ignore the facts that Shedeur turned a program around, that he had the full respect of his teammates, that the coaches who worked with him never had complaints, that he not only excelled on the field but also took care of business academically and was a solid citizen.
Medford M.
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The Browns overall roster is definitely not bottom five in the league like some think.
Remember last year pre-season some publications had the Broncos in the bottom five rosters.
These things tend to undervalue young developing players and overvalue declining veterans. Also amazing how decent QB play makes other players look better.
Oops, you hit 'post reply' before ****ting on Shedeur's abilities. The edit button is on the lower left.
I'm seeing some of the same type of excitement in Cleveland, that we experienced at CU, when CP arrived. The future is here. SS is handling things very well.
reading social media, there are a lot of folks who believe SS was discriminated against, and that part of that was race based. This is a stretch, but like every black baseball fan supported Jackie Robinson and was invested in him being successful, I think SS will carry the hopes of a huge number of non-Cleveland fans.
(and Shilo is also handling himself extremely well)
reading social media, there are a lot of folks who believe SS was discriminated against, and that part of that was race based. This is a stretch, but like every black baseball fan supported Jackie Robinson and was invested in him being successful, I think SS will carry the hopes of a huge number of non-Cleveland fans.
(and Shilo is also handling himself extremely well)
BuffLuke80
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He'll be fine. Some are making a mountain out of a mole hill. If his QB coach.wants it out of his game,.I'm sure they'll work on it.
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I think it's 40% racial and it's fair honestly. Cam Skattebo fell for the same reasons. You are a pocket passer or the style of RB Cam is. No one who is white or black for 2 to compare and it's a bad reach like comparing Cam to Toby Gerhart or Shedeur to Teddy Bridgewater.
People need to see someone who looks like you, do it before you or they don't trust it and it must be within the last 30 years.
Shedeur biggest issue was, he's favorable to Peyton Manning and Drew Brees. No one is going to give him that in the NFL collectively and you can't even use guys like Chad Pennington because he played nothing like Shedeur. So it's basically, he's like Brees and Manning. Well, they aren't buying it. Just like Cam is like MJD. He's white and he's not as fast. Easy pass and now he's looked at as a poor man's Toby Gerhart when he's way better than Gerhart. Same for Shedeur being seen as a poor man's Geno Smith when he's way better than Smith was as a QB.
Medford M.
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****ting on or hating isn’t the same as valid criticism.
As I told Lama, get his dick out of your mouth.
Medford M.
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Skattebo fell because he’s either going to fall off a cliff or fail his first test for PEDs
Medford M.
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On your last point…that’s just objectively false.
Let’s stop propping guys up because they wore black and gold and be objective