CUwhit21
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We are #43 with $52.6 million in revenue.
We are #43 with $52.6 million in revenue.
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Not bad, considering the basketball program contributes close to nothing. If we could get the basketball program up to speed, this would improve pretty quick.
Its amazing how closely revenue and success are linked, unless you are in the Big 10.
I don't know why you find that so surprising. Look at the Rockies, as they took over the wildcard spot attendance nearly doubled. Nobody wants to go watch their team get waxed, unless you are a Cubs fan.
Mick Ronson
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more football rev at Duke than CU, FSU and UCLA?
I was more taking a shot at the Big10 i find very little about the correlation surprising. I guess i should have used some smilies or something.
No, it is entire AD revenue, it is just a list of schools that have a FBS division football team.
Absolutely!
Throw in naming rights for the football stadium (i.e., "Folsom Field at Buffnik Enterprises Stadium") and we shoot up that list.
Edit: And how the hell are we ahead of Mizzou with their recent success in football and hoops? Makes me think they'll fall fast and hard if they start losing.
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Mizzou ticket prices must be in line with the per-capita income of the state average, which is well below the Boulder/Denver metro areas.
Out ticket prices are crazy underpriced for both football and basketball. Even with the low prices we will sellout 2 games if we are lucky at Folsom Field this year (CSU and Nebraska). We won't sellout even 1 basketball game. We need fans in the seats to boost our numbers. Put down the beer and get to the game!
The words supply and demand come to mind when reading this post. I'm no econ major, but your post is slightly contradictory.
How did I contradict myself? Are you suggesting that we have too much supply and not enough demand?
Mick Ronson
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there's some truth to this, but the student tix have doubled in price since i last bought them in 02 when i was a grad student.
basketball tickets have also gone up.....and there's almost no "demand" there....but, for a time, the 7$ GA ticket was about the best sports/entertainment value around. and when there was beer, you could see the game and get a brew for 10$. beer, nachos, and the game < 15$.
Ding ding ding. Tickets cannot be way underpriced if we struggle to sellout.
Now that is moronic reasoning. Clearly you never took an economics class! Colorado is in the top of the nation in regards to the most affordable tickets, plus areas like Boulder and Denver are affluent, even in the down economy. I will bever buy (pun intended) the excuse of, we don't sellout games because tickets are too expensive, we have fairweather fans is the real answer.
maybe people feel the product on the field lately is not even worth paying the low prices we see right now.
It is all about time and money. People are fairweather because they do not perceive their time/money is worth a CU football game. Do you think we get 46K to EWU last year without a 4/$40 promotion?
That's the definition of a fairweather fan. We should stick by our teams through thick and thin. Folsom Field and the Coors Event Center have never had a reputation for selling games out on a regular basis. It's not like Penn St. wins the National Title evey year, yet they pack in 100K to every game. That's more than double our capacity! I referenced fans putting down their beers awhile ago. I have witnessed way too many stupid college students on campus stumble into Folsom mid second quarter and be like, "Who are we playing?" Our only tradition in regards to fans is puttin' back the liquor. That may sound harsh, but that is reality.
So sell it inside.
Perfect answer. That's all we need, more drunks. Personally I don't want any fan who would rather get trashed than actually watch the game and support the team. Nothing against drinking, I just do mine at the bar or at home. I saw what it was like back when we did sell it in the stadium, I wouldn't want that again.
i/allbuffs stick by our team through thick and thin. i missed one game in the past five years i went to school (montana st., thank god!!), and that was because i had to work. i have nothing to say about those in denver and surrounding areas that dont want to catch a game in boulder because of the talent on the field.
haha, i was in no way trying to get into one's fandom. i actually just realized that the only game i missed was montana st. and found it to be ironically awesome. lets hope the team this year can get some more butts in the seats.
Low ticket prices do not equate to higher attendance. As an example, I give you Princeton University. A ticket on the 50 yard line costs $6. Season tickets are $25. Yes, that's right SEASON TICKETS are $25. They have a beautiful new stadium, with all the bells & whistles. Diamond vision scoreboard, concessions, you name it. The stadium holds probably around 40,000 people. They are located in a densely populated, sports crazy part of the country. There is a train line that links directly to New York City. In this gorgeous setting, where tickets are cheap and plentiful, and the product on the field is halfway decent, they regularly get somewhere around 10,000 to watch home games. It's pathetic.
The problem at CU isn't that our fans are apathetic, it's that we have done a very poor job of cultivating that sense of ownership for the the school and the football team. Students like Loblaw & 87 are the exception to the rule. The school does absolutely NOTHING to instill a sense of passion for Colorado Athletics in the students. Nada. Zip. Contrast that to a place like A&M, where if you're not at the game, you suck. At CU, fans are created by accident. Unfortunately, with all that Mike Bohn has done for the athletic department, he's still way behind in this category.
The problem at CU isn't that our fans are apathetic, it's that we have done a very poor job of cultivating that sense of ownership for the the school and the football team. Students like Loblaw & 87 are the exception to the rule. The school does absolutely NOTHING to instill a sense of passion for Colorado Athletics in the students. Nada. Zip. Contrast that to a place like A&M, where if you're not at the game, you suck. At CU, fans are created by accident. Unfortunately, with all that Mike Bohn has done for the athletic department, he's still way behind in this category.
I might add that with an enormous amount of different recreational things to do, it gives people more options to spend their $$$ for different activities. Hence ----
If we didn't have our beautiful mountains there would be many more people in the stands.
87toInfinity
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The University of Colorado didn't make me a Buff fan. My Dad raised me as a Buff fan just as his Dad raised him as one. Been going to games since I was five (when we moved back to Colo) and I was horribly disappointed my Freshman year when me and maybe 4 of the 30 people in my hall in the dorm woke up to go to the football game.
Sadly too many students don't give two ****s about football.
That's my point. I'm the same way. I grew up going to games at Folsom. When I got to CU, there was no effort made whatsoever to engage the students in the athletic department. Remember that I went there in the late 80's, which was the zenith of the football program. Of all the guys in my fraternity, only me and one other guy go to the games. Lots of these guys live in the area, too. They don't go because football for them was a diversion on a Saturday when they were in college. It wasn't important, and the school didn't do anything to make it important.
BuffAlum2007
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With regards to Princeton and their seemingly poor attendance (their stadium size is actually around 27k, not 40k), I have a couple of thoughts -
1. Geography - Princeton is located about halfway between New York City and Philadelphia - two cities that offer tons of entertainment options on weekends (including each city having an Ivy League school and football program of its own) - I would say that given all the opportunities those cities offer, Princeton football would not be amongst the first things that come to mind...
2. Level of competition - I-AA Ivy League - 'nuff said (especially since the Ivy League opts out of the I-AA Football Championship)
3. Small school and scattered alumni base - Princeton has about 5000 undergrads and as a private school, their alumni base is pretty well scattered around the country and even the world...
As far as CU goes, I agree 100% that something needs to be done to promote athletics within the student body, but what can be done to do that? I fear it's almost a losing battle because a lot of students (especially the large out-of-state student body population) come to CU with a preconceived notion of what they want to do with their time away from classes (go into the mountains for hiking/skiing/climbing, etc.), and since these students have their hearts set on that, there is little that can be done to persuade them to ditch the mountains and go to Folsom on Saturdays or Coors during basketball season...
as someone who lived in the dorms, I can tell you I only got promoted on the team ONCE my entire frosh year. Posters in the hallways, student only pregame activities, etc, NOTHING. Any of those small things would help. CU Football: A tradition only if you find out about on your own :sad1: