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Brent Venables?
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What's going on?
Can't we do a little better than another Stoops stooge.
unless you know something?
BuffInDC
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ScottyBuff
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Yeah, if Kansas State (his alma mater) didn't offer him the job before they hired Snyder, then there must be red flags.
I'm sure he is more than qualified to be a BCS head coach, but he's been in the rumor-mill for 3 years now and gotten interviewed for at least one (Clemson), with no offers that I can tell.
I'm sure he is more than qualified to be a BCS head coach, but he's been in the rumor-mill for 3 years now and gotten interviewed for at least one (Clemson), with no offers that I can tell.
Lt.Col.FrankSlade
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What's going on?
Can't we do a little better than another Stoops stooge.
Yeah why would we want a coach who has consistently had one of the best defenses in college football on our team....
And Mangino, Leach, little brother Stoops have all been horrible.. The only coach who hasn't performed well was Chuck Long - and he made the mistake of taking the first job that offered.
SuperiorBuff
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I was thinking the same thing. Seems like a pretty strong endorsement to me.
KSU is going to get ready to prepare a coach-in-waiting. No coach would have wanted to enter that debacle that Prince left, except for Synder. They graduate a ridiculous number of people this year and have no depth.
^^^^ This.
Lets not forget, as B&G pointed out, Coach Mac came from the Woody Hayes coaching tree. Look at the number of coaches to come from the Bill Walsh coaching tree. And the Jimmy Johnson coaching tree.
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ThndringHerd
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We could definitely do worse. Good recruiting ties. Probably one of the top 5 DC's in the country. BCS experience. Has had time to pick up on how Stoops does things.
BuffInDC
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You'd be silly to think Stoops doesn't play a key part in the success of their defense, their defense did not drop off at any time after Mike Stoops left and that in my opinion is thanks to Bob being defensive minded.
Of course hes the DC by title, but what specific position development have you seen him make progress in?
Mangino is on his way out for being a SOB.
Leach is a pirate SOB.
Mike Stoops was on his way out until last season.
However a point even you condone is that the more successful assistants under Bob Stoops are those who handle the offense, you can even include Sumlin in that group aswell. Oklahoma's offense is a clear product of the coordinator at the time rather than Bob Stoops.
White_Rabbit
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Oklahoma fans would thanks us for taking him off their hands.. his one major plus is that he is a pretty big time recruiter of Texas.
Lt.Col.FrankSlade
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Given that I am in Norman, I can assure you that Brent Venebles is 100% in charge of the defense. Certainly Bob gives his input - just as he does on the entire defense - but the coach who is calling the defense all game long is Brent, not Bob.
ScottyBuff
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What are your thoughts on his potential as a HC? What is the character issue that keeps coming up?
BuffInDC
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But Oklahoma has(had) a more successful offense than defense.
Why not Kevin Wilson than Brent Venables?
is venables really a good fit for boulder?
he's a hot head who is known to rub people the wrong way.
he's currently at a school with every resource in the world that is absolutely and primarily dedicated to winning football games. when you talk about "football factories," ou is the poster child. don't get me wrong; i am not critical of that part of it... i am just saying that it isn't the same as boulder.
venables is a proven, good coordinator at a major program, but is he a boulder type of a coach? i dunno...
he's a hot head who is known to rub people the wrong way.
he's currently at a school with every resource in the world that is absolutely and primarily dedicated to winning football games. when you talk about "football factories," ou is the poster child. don't get me wrong; i am not critical of that part of it... i am just saying that it isn't the same as boulder.
venables is a proven, good coordinator at a major program, but is he a boulder type of a coach? i dunno...
CUwhit21
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Lt.Col.FrankSlade
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Who says Brent Venebles is a hot head?!!? That is a new one.
I have heard both brothers Stoops were hotheads, but that is certainly not the reputation Venebles has in Oklahoma.
And I have never heard of these so-called "character" issues. Mike Stoops liked to fool around with OU co-eds, but those rumors have never followed Venebles.
I have heard both brothers Stoops were hotheads, but that is certainly not the reputation Venebles has in Oklahoma.
And I have never heard of these so-called "character" issues. Mike Stoops liked to fool around with OU co-eds, but those rumors have never followed Venebles.
Lt.Col.FrankSlade
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I think Venebles is very much an "outside the box" hire, similar to how Stoops was an outside the box hire when he was hired at OU.
White_Rabbit
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Well that alleviates some of my concerns about him. Good to know.
ThndringHerd
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Doesn't pretty much every top-flight head coach in the country fit this description?
IDBUFF
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His hair is too short to be hired in Boulder. They will look for another touchy feely guy or maybe even a female. I always thought Barnett go canned motly because he was too honest and wouldn't play the PC game ("she's a terrible kicker"). And you gotta be PC in Boulder even to walk down the sidewalk.
BuffInDC
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Oklahoma, not Brent Venables.
On that topic look at #4,TCU
We oughta look at Dick Bumpus(great name btw) to run our defense.
BuffInDC
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BuffInDC
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How do you think Venables would fit at Colorado?
Do you think he'd be able to successfully sell the program to good recruits? Win a recruiting battle against Bob Stoops or Mack Brown in Texas for a good recruit?
Why does Kevin Wilson not receive much interest as a HC candidate?
CUwhit21
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Sorry I was under the impression you were saying the Oklahoma offense is better then their defense.
White_Rabbit
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Not sure, but I think it's because he has only been there for a couple of years. Their revolving door of OCs has had Chuck Long, Mark Mangino and Mike Leach in the last 10 years. He also doesn't recruit as well as Venables.
Lt.Col.FrankSlade
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I have no idea how Venebles would fit in in Boulder. He is a different coach than anything Boulder has seen in a long time.
BuffInDC
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Not this season, but in previous seasons their offense was better than their defense.
Actually that was probably just last season and 2004, but I've never viewed Oklahoma as an overpowering defensive team. Their best players have always been on the offensive side of the ball, and its translated to the NFL where most of their defensive players don't make it.
BuffInDC
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From what standpoint?
Do you believe Venables has enough fire to energize the Buffs fanbase similar to how Kiffin & Sarkisian did at their new programs?