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'12 CA CB Jeffrey Coprich (Signed to Cal)

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West Ranch H.S. (Stevenson Ranch, CA)

Ht: 5-foot-9
Wt: 182 lbs
40: 4.43 secs

Rivals rating: 3*-5.5rr; unranked RB
Scout rating: 2*; #122 RB
ESPN rating: 2*-70 grade; #200 RB
247s rating: 2*-74 rating; #132 RB

Reported Offers: Colorado, California, Army, Cal Poly, Hawaii, Illinois State, Montana, Sacramento State

Anything on this guy? Showing an offer at Corner from Scout Today.

 
Coprich played at Golden Valley H.S. through his junior year and then transferred to West Ranch for his senior season.

Here's a bit from the LA Times blog:

Football: Jeff Coprich makes immediate impact for West Ranch

September 5, 2011 | 11:17 am

Add Jeff Coprich of West Ranch to the list of impact transfer students this season.The senior running back-defensive back who left Golden Valley rushed for 213 yards in nine carries and scored four touchdowns in a 53-21 victory over Nordhoff.He had runs of 84 and 85 yards. He also returned an interception for a touchdown.​
 
Here's the ESPN scouting report on him (July, 2011):

Coprich is a small, shifty back with good quickness. Shows complementary back type qualities, particularly as an inside zone runner. Displays quick to hole-vision making a good first cut and finding the running lane, particularly at the second level. Flashes good lateral movement within the tackle box. Can make the first guy miss but rarely shows that 2nd gear to be a homerun threat when he gets into open space. He is not a consistent threat as an outside runner. Looks to be elusive with first burst at the line of scrimmage, moving well laterally and finding the hole. With that being said, he displays more of a change of pace type of skill-set. Rarely keeps his legs moving on 2nd contact, not being able to fight for extra yardage. Can runs high, particularly inside the tackle box. This prospect looks to have limited fluidity in his hip area, making him off balance at times. Catches the ball well out of the backfield, plants and take it downhill effectively. As a blocker he likes to mix it up but he gets his weight ahead of him causing him to be off balance at times. Willing to get in front a defender on pass pro but wouldn't be projected as an every down back, due to his small stature and lack of yards after contact production. Overall, Coprich has redeeming qualities but needs to improve his size and speed and would benefit from a growth spurt. He looks to be a FCS caliber player.
 
Buffnik said:
Here's the ESPN scouting report on him:

Coprich is a small, shifty back with good quickness. Shows complementary back type qualities, particularly as an inside zone runner. Displays quick to hole-vision making a good first cut and finding the running lane, particularly at the second level. Flashes good lateral movement within the tackle box. Can make the first guy miss but rarely shows that 2nd gear to be a homerun threat when he gets into open space. He is not a consistent threat as an outside runner. Looks to be elusive with first burst at the line of scrimmage, moving well laterally and finding the hole. With that being said, he displays more of a change of pace type of skill-set. Rarely keeps his legs moving on 2nd contact, not being able to fight for extra yardage. Can runs high, particularly inside the tackle box. This prospect looks to have limited fluidity in his hip area, making him off balance at times. Catches the ball well out of the backfield, plants and take it downhill effectively. As a blocker he likes to mix it up but he gets his weight ahead of him causing him to be off balance at times. Willing to get in front a defender on pass pro but wouldn't be projected as an every down back, due to his small stature and lack of yards after contact production. Overall, Coprich has redeeming qualities but needs to improve his size and speed and would benefit from a growth spurt. He looks to be a FCS caliber player.
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Not exactly a glowing evaluation. If he really does have the limited fluidity in his hips that they describe, that will not translate well to playing as a CB.
 
Junior Highlights:

[video=youtube;pEstse90S0k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEstse90S0k[/video]

Highlights from his first game at West Ranch that the LA Time blog was talking up:

[video=youtube;RwH_SP04n7I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwH_SP04n7I[/video]

And, finally, here is the worst youtube promotional video of a player that I've ever seen:

[video=youtube;RNQlxLEm3TE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNQlxLEm3TE[/video]
 
lawdogg said:
Not exactly a glowing evaluation. If he really does have the limited fluidity in his hips that they describe, that will not translate well to playing as a CB.
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I just watched his 2010 highlights and the limited 2011 that are available (there are more on Scout for subscribers). It's like the ESPN guys watched different film than I did. I really don't get how they would question his speed. Dude's fast. It was hard to tell on his hips since there wasn't much on him in a backpedal and flipping open, but he looked plenty agile to me with very good acceleration. Physical, too. He kind of reminded me of Greg Henderson's high school film, but maybe not as advanced as a DB yet.

A couple other notes:

I like the 36" vertical that was reported on hudl.

He was named one of the top performers at the Washington NFTC camp this summer and ESPN's Greg Biggins had the following to say:

DB Jeffrey Coprich, 5-8, 175, West Ranch (Valencia, Calif.)
Coprich was right there with [Jayshawn] Jordan for DB MVP honors. He was the most physical corner in the camp and was strong in press coverage. He attacks the ball and is fearless on the field. Coprich is also a talented running back and could play on either side of the ball at the next level.
 
Nice job on digging up info as usual. Colorado seems to be doing a pretty good job of finding a lot of off the radar DB's this year. It will be interesting to see how it all turns out.
 
Buffnik said:
Junior Highlights:

And, finally, here is the worst youtube promotional video of a player that I've ever seen:

[video=youtube;RNQlxLEm3TE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNQlxLEm3TE[/video]
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They are mocking Lil B. Quite possibly the worst rapper/gimmick of all time. SWAG.
 
Buffnik said:
I just watched his 2010 highlights and the limited 2011 that are available (there are more on Scout for subscribers). It's like the ESPN guys watched different film than I did. I really don't get how they would question his speed. Dude's fast.
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Really? I didn't get that impression at all. There were numerous times it looked like he was about to get ran down from behind by a Patrick Mahnke. I'd be shocked if he ran anywhere close to a 4.43 40. Hell the first clip in the junior highlights video he almost gets ran down by what looks like a DL or LBer.

That said, he looks quick and given his size, I'd assume we're probably recruiting him as a nickel, so 40 yard time and straight line speed isn't nearly as important. Can't say he jumped to the top of my wish list, though.
 
Seems pretty fast:

[video=youtube;Vdz8U666j5Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vdz8U666j5Q[/video]
 
^ he does look a lot faster in that video. Looked like a pretty physical player too. Liking more, but still not in love.

Are we seriously going to just sign a bunch of RBs to play CB? :\
 
White_Rabbit said:
^ he does look a lot faster in that video. Looked like a pretty physical player too. Liking more, but still not in love.

Are we seriously going to just sign a bunch of RBs to play CB? :\
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legitimate question, top flight HS corners are fairly rare and in high demand, hard for a team in our position to convince them to come. I still hold out some hope and our coaches do still have to try for some.

In the mean time the question is who do you want on your corners, corners who aren't athletes or athletes who don't come in as corners. With the quality of athletes in the PAC and faced with this choice I would rather take my chances on turning an athlete into a corner than in magically hoping for a guy playing corner to suddenly become an athlete.
 
MtnBuff said:
legitimate question, top flight HS corners are fairly rare and in high demand, hard for a team in our position to convince them to come. I still hold out some hope and our coaches do still have to try for some.

In the mean time the question is who do you want on your corners, corners who aren't athletes or athletes who don't come in as corners. With the quality of athletes in the PAC and faced with this choice I would rather take my chances on turning an athlete into a corner than in magically hoping for a guy playing corner to suddenly become an athlete.
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I find that I agree with you quite a Mtn...seriously, sometimes I think of posting, but some posters such as yourselves say exactly what I wanted to say...so I don't even bother logging in to post something. I'd rep you, but apparently I did that too soon ago.

In many sports, your top athletes become a certain position at an early age. In football, top athletes at young ages are usually going to be your qb, rb or wr. As they get older, sure they'll switch around positions until they find one that they like and suits them. CB is usually not one of the preferred positions by young players, and tends not to be a position that coaches push their players into. So when these kids get to HS, it seems that CB is overlooked. Sure, you need athletes at the corners, but that doesn't mean they are the team's top athlete.

I'm not saying we just recruit athletes and convert them to corner. However, I see nothing wrong with finding football players that love to play football, and when they get on campus, switch them around as they need to help the team if necessary. Once that's figured out, teach them. Ray Polk is not the only example of this working out. DJ Williams was a great HS RB, who became a great LB. I'm sure there are others.
 
MtnBuff said:
legitimate question, top flight HS corners are fairly rare and in high demand, hard for a team in our position to convince them to come. I still hold out some hope and our coaches do still have to try for some.

In the mean time the question is who do you want on your corners, corners who aren't athletes or athletes who don't come in as corners. With the quality of athletes in the PAC and faced with this choice I would rather take my chances on turning an athlete into a corner than in magically hoping for a guy playing corner to suddenly become an athlete.
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Good athletes that play CB aren't that hard to find. Not sure why you say that. There might not be hundreds of kids like Yuri Wright running around, but 5'9 kids that can run pretty fast are not exactly nowhere to be found.

My issue isn't with the taking of athletes, I'm all in favor of it, my issue is taking a lot of projects. I'm fine with a couple of projects, but I mean, lets not load up on them.. that's how we found ourselves with the DBs that we have now. A bunch of them are kind of tall and can run fast, but they just aren't really that good.

I mean, take what dyemeduke said, Ray Polk. Fast, strong, big kid. Good safety? I wouldn't go that far. He has looked decent at times this year, but at some point you have to wonder if it's the round hole square peg syndrome. Maybe he suffered from missing Greg Brown for a year? Who really knows. I just don't buy that loading up on good athletes is the way to go. Give me a guy that might be a little limited physically (Greg Henderson) over a guy that we think we can maybe teach to play corner (Moten? Olatoye? Hawkins?)

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to advocate Embree heading out to the local high schools and signing football players with a certain twinkle in their eye, but there's a happy medium imo. Unfortunately I see us turning away from legit CB prospects to athletes that can maybe play corner. Not a positive as I see it.
 
White_Rabbit said:
Good athletes that play CB aren't that hard to find. Not sure why you say that. There might not be hundreds of kids like Yuri Wright running around, but 5'9 kids that can run pretty fast are not exactly nowhere to be found.

My issue isn't with the taking of athletes, I'm all in favor of it, my issue is taking a lot of projects. I'm fine with a couple of projects, but I mean, lets not load up on them.. that's how we found ourselves with the DBs that we have now. A bunch of them are kind of tall and can run fast, but they just aren't really that good.

I mean, take what dyemeduke said, Ray Polk. Fast, strong, big kid. Good safety? I wouldn't go that far. He has looked decent at times this year, but at some point you have to wonder if it's the round hole square peg syndrome. Maybe he suffered from missing Greg Brown for a year? Who really knows. I just don't buy that loading up on good athletes is the way to go. Give me a guy that might be a little limited physically (Greg Henderson) over a guy that we think we can maybe teach to play corner (Moten? Olatoye? Hawkins?)

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to advocate Embree heading out to the local high schools and signing football players with a certain twinkle in their eye, but there's a happy medium imo. Unfortunately I see us turning away from legit CB prospects to athletes that can maybe play corner. Not a positive as I see it.
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I would prefer not to take projects myself, unfortunately until we start to show some results on the field and wipe away the stain of the Bozo from Boise we may not have a lot of choice.

I would certainly prefer Yuri, and adams, and a number of others if we can get them. Despite the challenges the staff still has to keep working these guys and do everything they can to bring them in. At the same time we still will have games and have to line up 11 guys on defense, the question is who will those guys be if we don't have Yuri or Adams, et.al. The next best choice is to find guys who can do the job physically and try to teach them the position.

Henderson may not have been highly rated coming out of HS but I think he is a better athlete than you give him credit for, not elite but solid, we got lucky with him.

Polk actually played as much corner in HS as he did RB. I know a HS coach in Arizona who told me when we were recruiting Polk that he thought Polk was a better DB than RB and would one day be a CB in the pros. Now my opinion of Polk as a DB is probably higher than a lot of others around here but I don't see him playing anywhere close to that level yet, hopefully he will develop, but based on HS he was a DB coming in. Even if we recruit corners out of HS there is going to be a developmental process. The college game is a different game, the may be further along but it is different.

Lets hope the staff gets some quality legit HS corners and we don't need to have this conversation in the future but until then I prefer to try to teach a quality athlete how to play a position over trying to take a guy who plays a position and trying to make him an athlete.
 
Finally watched his clips and nothing really stood out to me. Players at his size and speed are a dime a dozen IMO.
 
White_Rabbit said:
Good athletes that play CB aren't that hard to find. Not sure why you say that. There might not be hundreds of kids like Yuri Wright running around, but 5'9 kids that can run pretty fast are not exactly nowhere to be found.

My issue isn't with the taking of athletes, I'm all in favor of it, my issue is taking a lot of projects. I'm fine with a couple of projects, but I mean, lets not load up on them.. that's how we found ourselves with the DBs that we have now. A bunch of them are kind of tall and can run fast, but they just aren't really that good.

I mean, take what dyemeduke said, Ray Polk. Fast, strong, big kid. Good safety? I wouldn't go that far. He has looked decent at times this year, but at some point you have to wonder if it's the round hole square peg syndrome. Maybe he suffered from missing Greg Brown for a year? Who really knows. I just don't buy that loading up on good athletes is the way to go. Give me a guy that might be a little limited physically (Greg Henderson) over a guy that we think we can maybe teach to play corner (Moten? Olatoye? Hawkins?)

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to advocate Embree heading out to the local high schools and signing football players with a certain twinkle in their eye, but there's a happy medium imo. Unfortunately I see us turning away from legit CB prospects to athletes that can maybe play corner. Not a positive as I see it.
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I don't think people give Polk enough credit. To me he's shown improvement every week. We know he's fast, strong and tough, but he seems to be getting better in coverage and anticipating where to be. He got beat a couple of times for TDs against ASU, but his coverage was good. It was just a case of the QB getting too much time and delivering good passes. Maybe it's not saying much, but I think Polk is our best player on defense with Rippy out.
 
Ozbuff said:
I don't think people give Polk enough credit. To me he's shown improvement every week. We know he's fast, strong and tough, but he seems to be getting better in coverage and anticipating where to be. He got beat a couple of times for TDs against ASU, but his coverage was good. It was just a case of the QB getting too much time and delivering good passes. Maybe it's not saying much, but I think Polk is our best player on defense with Rippy out.
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This is getting a little off topic, but I wasn't trying to say Polk sucked or something. I'm just saying that, as a redshirt junior, the kid is still experiencing a pretty big learning curve. Not exactly a great position to be in. If only the coaches could teach him where the sideline was and the rule on hitting people when they're on it, we might have something to work with here. I'm simply of the belief that instincts are had at an early age in football, not taught. Polk doesn't look instinctive out there and therefore his play will never match his potential given his athleticism.
 
White_Rabbit said:
This is getting a little off topic, but I wasn't trying to say Polk sucked or something. I'm just saying that, as a redshirt junior, the kid is still experiencing a pretty big learning curve. Not exactly a great position to be in. If only the coaches could teach him where the sideline was and the rule on hitting people when they're on it, we might have something to work with here. I'm simply of the belief that instincts are had at an early age in football, not taught. Polk doesn't look instinctive out there and therefore his play will never match his potential given his athleticism.
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A lot of Polk looking bad is coming from him trying to cover for the errors or expected errors of our corners who by all right should not even be out there. Give him some solid healthy corners letting him get back to playing his position and I think his instincts will start looking much better. It also will help him to get some of his health back since he has been playing with a list of injuries all season.
 
At this point I really hope we get him. If he runs a 4.4 40' then lets take him. All our guys are like 3 steps behind every receiver at this point. I'll be happy if we can just get guys that can stay with the Pac-12 receivers stride for stride. I don't care if he has great hands or anything else just keep up with the damn receiver and don't get beat. Right now we don't have any corners in this class, I'd like to see us get at least 3 this class.
 
MtnBuff said:
A lot of Polk looking bad is coming from him trying to cover for the errors or expected errors of our corners who by all right should not even be out there. Give him some solid healthy corners letting him get back to playing his position and I think his instincts will start looking much better. It also will help him to get some of his health back since he has been playing with a list of injuries all season.
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He's gotten better, but it would be nice if he got the "instinct" to learn that you're supposed to tackle, not hit.
 
CVilleBuff said:
He's gotten better, but it would be nice if he got the "instinct" to learn that you're supposed to tackle, not hit.
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Actually best bet is to hit and tackle. Unfortunately tackling seems to be a lost art at all levels of football.
 
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