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'18 CA OG Chris Murray (Verbal to UCLA)
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ProtoBuff
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What could've been..
You forgot bailer.
Seriously? UCLA is a GREAT academic school. Here is a post I made a little while ago:
CU is #116 in the 2017 World University Rankings. (Plus breakdown by conference.)
Pac-12:
3. Stanford
10. University of California, Berkeley
14. University of California, Los Angeles
25. University of Washington
60. University of Southern California
116. University of Colorado Boulder
131. Arizona State University
156. University of Arizona
201-250. University of Utah
301-350. University of Oregon
301-350. Oregon State University
351-400. Washington State University
UCLA is the second highest ranked public university in the USA behind Berkeley.
Notre Dame is at 143. Unless you want to become a Catholic priest, there are a lot of better schools out there.
I have to question any list that puts ASU above Notre Dame.
Most of the university presidents use ARWU to measure their dicks against other schools around the world.
Pac-12 Ranks on ARWU for 2017:
2. Stanford
5. Cal
12. UCLA
13. Washington
43. Colorado
54. USC
99. Arizona
101-150. Arizona State
101-150. Utah
151-200. Oregon State
201-300. Oregon
401-500. Washington State
Notre Dame comes in the 201-300 range with Oregon. It would be the 10th or 11th best academic university in the Pac-12.
Of course, this is a general overall rating. For specific schools within the university, a place that's rated low overall could be the best.
Pac-12 Ranks on ARWU for 2017:
2. Stanford
5. Cal
12. UCLA
13. Washington
43. Colorado
54. USC
99. Arizona
101-150. Arizona State
101-150. Utah
151-200. Oregon State
201-300. Oregon
401-500. Washington State
Notre Dame comes in the 201-300 range with Oregon. It would be the 10th or 11th best academic university in the Pac-12.
Of course, this is a general overall rating. For specific schools within the university, a place that's rated low overall could be the best.
SerenityBuff
Well-Known Member
After working in higher ed for 12 years now, I’ve found that universities will promote any publication that ranks them the highest.
fwiw, I saw several reports that AAU Membership, Carnegie Tier 1 and ARWU rank were the "prestige" factors that presidents cared about in the last round of realignment as it related to academics.
somebody
Well-Known Member
301-400. BYU
infinity and beyond. BSU
somebody
Well-Known Member
Carnegie: BYU strike one, BSU strike two
AAU: BYU strike two, BSU strike three
Yep. It's why the Pac-12 isn't the Pac-14 already.
Only western school that I think would have a shot is UNLV if its medical school and other investments are enough to drive it to Carnegie 1 in the 2020 ranks.
They've got to start winning in football to make that viable, though. New stadium will be great and the population & recruiting explosion in Nevada are big positives (as is the prestige of its hoops program), but it's hard to see how UNLV makes the conference more money if its football program is struggling to get bowl eligible at the G5 level.
A whole page of non-recruit info in a recruiting thread? Typical Allbuffs.
How many additional tv viewers would UNLV bring, and would that come close to splitting up the pie once again? No. Vegas and it's surrounding populace (this is the key, as there is nothing for hundreds of miles around Vegas) is small still and most of it's population is either temporary, soon to die, or strongly attached to wherever they came from (Michigan, Minnesota, Hawaii, China, Russia.....). It doesn't move the needle even a little bit for me.
If they start filling their stadium like Boise State, it would start to get interesting.
If they start filling their stadium like Boise State, it would start to get interesting.
UCLA
JOEinDenver
National Championship or Bust
Any reason why he didn't sign yet? Think the coaching change had anything to do with it? If so, I hope Bernardi is sitting by the Batphone.
He can’t sign yet, he announced at the army all American game so he has to wait until the second signing period.
buffs04
Well-Known Member
Many of these rankings are based on the quality of research done by faculty members and the quality of graduate programs and ASU punches way above its reputation in this dimension. They are not top tier in general but along these two dimensions they are in the same bucket as CU. For example, their business, economics, finance, etc., faculties and graduate programs are much better than CU, along with some natural sciences like astronomy, while in general I'd suspect that they are worse in engineering, humanities, physics, and other areas.
ASU is a better school than you think.
JOEinDenver
National Championship or Bust
Did you mean astrology and psychics?
buffs04
Well-Known Member
I have degrees from CU and U of Arizona. No incentive from my end to hype ASU. Just pointing out some facts.
