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2019 NCAA Tournament Thread

cmgoods

cmgoods

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Pretty good first four game right now between Prairie View and Farleigh Dickinson right now. After this is Belmont and Temple.
 
I don’t know how good those teams actually are, but I definitely didn’t think that they looked like ****. Anyway, Belmont and Temple are in a 2 point game with 7:30 left
 
cmgoods said:
I don’t know how good those teams actually are, but I definitely didn’t think that they looked like ****. Anyway, Belmont and Temple are in a 2 point game with 7:30 left
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Belmont and Temple look a lot better than the first game.
 
Goose said:
And it really needs to be the last 8 in. I know I'm in the minority, but if you're a 16 seed you deserve to go to the big dance. Punish the big conference schools, let the little guys have their day (where they'll get stomped).
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I would agree. Seems a bit ingenuous to say congratulations you qualified by winning your conference tournament, now you get to play another game to see if you really deserve to be in because we would rather have someone who went less than .500 in conference play and was knocked out of their tourney in the 2nd round, but hey they really excelled in non-con play by beating some of the same guys you did.
 
AeroBuff99 said:
I would agree. Seems a bit ingenuous to say congratulations you qualified by winning your conference tournament, now you get to play another game to see if you really deserve to be in because we would rather have someone who went less than .500 in conference play and was knocked out of their tourney in the 2nd round, but hey they really excelled in non-con play by beating some of the same guys you did.
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So a team that is rated as the 55th best team in the country has to go to a play-in game while sub-200 ranked teams that couldn't beat anyone in the non-conference go straight to the round of 64 because they won their conference tournament of doormats?
 
Buffnik said:
So a team that is rated as the 55th best team in the country has to go to a play-in game while sub-200 ranked teams that couldn't beat anyone in the non-conference go straight to the round of 64 because they won their conference tournament of doormats?
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Yes. I don't care if it makes the first game less interesting. Let's not kid ourselves, 16 vs 1 is interesting maybe once every 5 years anyway. The reward for the small schools is getting to play one of the big dogs and have that dream - only to lose by 40. That's what they play for all year, and I hate that two of them have to have their reward in Dayton against another ****ty team.
 
Goose said:
Yes. I don't care if it makes the first game less interesting. Let's not kid ourselves, 16 vs 1 is interesting maybe once every 5 years anyway. The reward for the small schools is getting to play one of the big dogs and have that dream - only to lose by 40. That's what they play for all year, and I hate that two of them have to have their reward in Dayton against another ****ty team.
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I go back and forth on this. On the one hand, I'm with you on loving the story and the moment for these small schools, their players and their fans. On the other hand, I'm bothered by the idea that this is about determining a champion, not holding hands to sing kumbaya, so I want to see the best teams playing.
 
Not Sure said:
I wish they’d just go back to a field of 64 and forget this Dayton play-in nonsense.
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That basically knocks out 4 bids from the major conferences. It would go against our self-interest as CU fans. If that was the system this year, we probably wouldn't have made the NIT as long as that tournament kept the auto-bids for all regular season champs that didn't make the NCAA tourney.
 
Buffnik said:
I go back and forth on this. On the one hand, I'm with you on loving the story and the moment for these small schools, their players and their fans. On the other hand, I'm bothered by the idea that this is about determining a champion, not holding hands to sing kumbaya, so I want to see the best teams playing.
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Same number of teams playing, just different matchups.

How about this, would you rather watch:

Bracket A:
* (1) Duke vs (16) NDSU
* (1) Gonzaga vs (16) FDU
* (1) UVA vs (16) Webb
* (1) UNC vs (16) Iona
* (11) Belmont vs (11) Temple
* Winner of above vs (6) Maryland
* (11) ASU vs (11) SJU
* Winner of above vs (6) Buffalo
* (11) Ohio St vs (11) Seton Hall
* Winner of above vs (6) Iowa State
* (11) St. Mary's vs (11) Iowa
* Winner of above vs (6) Villanova

Bracket B:
* (16) North Carolina Central vs (16) North Dakota State
* Winner of above vs (1) Duke
* (16) Prairie View vs (16) FDU
* Winner of above vs (1) Gonzaga
* (1) UVA vs (16) Webb
* (1) UNC vs (16) Iona
* (11) Belmont vs (11) Temple
* Winner of above vs (6) Maryland
* (11) ASU vs (11) SJU
* Winner of above vs (6) Buffalo
* (6) Iowa St vs (11) Ohio St
* (11) St. Mary's vs (6) Villanova

Given the choice of spending a Tuesday watching FDU play Prairie View or Ohio State play Seton Hall, I'm watching the latter. I'm not watching a 16 vs 1 unless the unthinkable is possible anyway, so it's not like we're really sacrificing anything and the kids who play in the crap conferences (like the MEAC, SWAC or Mountain West) get a chance to play on the big stage for one day.
 
After my annual search to find frikin TruTV, I finally found the ASU game. Up 24-10 on St. John's with 9 minutes left in the half.
 
Buffnik said:
After my annual search to find frikin TruTV, I finally found the ASU game. Up 24-10 on St. John's with 9 minutes left in the half.
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It would be a very ASU thing to do to win this game by 30 and get blown out by Buffalo in a couple days.
 
Hurley draws his first technical of the tourney. Guess these refs aren't gonna bend over for him like some of the crews from the Pac-12.
 
Whiny Bobby just got T’d up. Damn he just doesn’t stop bitching.
 
Goose said:
Yes. I don't care if it makes the first game less interesting. Let's not kid ourselves, 16 vs 1 is interesting maybe once every 5 years anyway. The reward for the small schools is getting to play one of the big dogs and have that dream - only to lose by 40. That's what they play for all year, and I hate that two of them have to have their reward in Dayton against another ****ty team.
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My thing is, yeah maybe the 16 seeds won a crappy conference, but they earned their right to a real NCAA tournament game. Not some first 4 crap.

The first 4 should be the last 8 teams in the tourney playing for 12 and 11 seeds.
 
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Medford M. said:
My thing is, yeah maybe the 16 seeds won a Dr appt conference, but they earned their right to a real NCAA tournament game. Not some first 4 crap.

The first 4 should be the last 8 teams in the tourney playing for 12 and 11 seeds.
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If the 16 seed wins their conference and conference tournament then they should get the bye. I haven't checked, but I would guess few 16 seeds have accomplished that feat and not gotten the bye.

If some random team gets hot in their conference tourney then I don't think that should be automatically deserving of a bye.

NDSU finished 3rd in the Summit League with a 18-15 overall record. They beat the 2nd place team, Omaha, in their conference tourney, but dodged the first place team, SDSU. Likewise, NC Central finished 3rd in the MEAC with a 18-15 overall record. They at least beat the 1st place team, Norfolk St, but weren't particularly deserving otherwise.

JMO
 
Buffnik said:
I go back and forth on this. On the one hand, I'm with you on loving the story and the moment for these small schools, their players and their fans. On the other hand, I'm bothered by the idea that this is about determining a champion, not holding hands to sing kumbaya, so I want to see the best teams playing.
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If this were the primary driver, we'd have a 32 team field. March Madness though is all about the Cinderallas and passer-by fans being awed a 12 seed can beat a 5. If we have 64 teams to keep this going, we should do right by the teams that help drive the underdog storylines and drama imo.

torerobuff said:
Whiny Bobby just got T’d up. Damn he just doesn’t stop bitching.
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Yeah, a very firey coach...but to be fair...he also has resting bitch face, so ... ...there's that... ....
 
dyemeduke said:
If this were the primary driver, we'd have a 32 team field. March Madness though is all about the Cinderallas and passer-by fans being awed a 12 seed can beat a 5. If we have 64 teams to keep this going, we should do right by the teams that help drive the underdog storylines and drama imo.
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Thanks. That's the way to start looking at it. First week of the tourney is about the Cinderella stories (and weeding out the unworthy). Sweet 16 onward is about determining a champion. (y)
 
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