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2019 Recruiting Class Ranking

Trufflesauce

Trufflesauce

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Our 2019 recruiting class is currently ranked #62 on 247. That ranking will improve substantially if we can close on some of the visitors this weekend.

What final class ranking would you consider a success? What would you consider a failure?

I’d consider a top 40 rank a success for a transition class. The excitement around a new staff should work in our favor. #50 or worse seems like a failure to capitalize on that. Anything in between is meh. Open to having my mind changed though if you disagree.

Our team rankings the previous few years:
2018: #52
2017: #35
2016: #69
 
A better way to look at it might be within the context of the conference. We’re currently at #10 in the Pac-12 with our 2019 class.

We’ve been:
2018: #10
2017: #8
2016: #12

Can we end at #8 or better in the conference again, as we did in 2017? If we’re #30 or better in the nation (Duff’s measurement of success) then we definitely should.
 
Trufflesauce said:
I like that. My standards clearly need to be higher than what I’m used to with the previous staff.
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Here is where I am at:

Top 30: The new staff successfully transformed the class by moving on/mutually parting with several commits and closed on several big time players. Big momentum built for the 2020 class.

31-50: The new staff was able to change a lot of the class, but probably missed out on some recruits they wanted.

51 and below: Things did not close well and the pressure is really on for a big 2020 class.
 
Duff Man said:
Here is where I am at:

Top 30: The new staff successfully transformed the class by moving on/mutually parting with several commits and closed on several big time players. Big momentum built for the 2020 class.

31-50: The new staff was able to change a lot of the class, but probably missed out on some recruits they wanted.

51 and below: Things did not close well and the pressure is really on for a big 2020 class.
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Agree. Also, I'd point out that if the new staff decides to go heavy on JUCO recruits that may be what we need to win in 2019 and set up the 2020 & 2021 recruiting, but JUCO players are downgraded by the sites and will pull down our class rank. We should watch that along with the raw numbers to get a feel for the emphasis with this recruiting class. With that, also, is the transfer market which does not even count toward the recruiting ranks.
 
Buffnik said:
Agree. Also, I'd point out that if the new staff decides to go heavy on JUCO recruits that may be what we need to win in 2019 and set up the 2020 & 2021 recruiting, but JUCO players are downgraded by the sites and will pull down our class rank. We should watch that along with the raw numbers to get a feel for the emphasis with this recruiting class. With that, also, is the transfer market which does not even count toward the recruiting ranks.
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Good point. I noticed that Sauvao (our recent JUCO guard commit) doesn’t even have a player ranking on 247.
 
Trufflesauce said:
Good point. I noticed that Sauvao (our recent JUCO guard commit) doesn’t even have a player ranking on 247.
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Yep. And the class rank is based on your Top 20 players in your class. So if you have fewer than 20 and/or you have an unrated or low rated guy, it really drags you down.
 
Trufflesauce said:
Nik pointed out in another thread that we were at #48 when Tucker was hired. Not sure what we were at right before he was fired, but it had to be around the same.
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Hmm. Yeah but months before that we were 30-40ish. Then a bunch de-committed and we dropped like a rock.
 
Buffnik said:
Agree. Also, I'd point out that if the new staff decides to go heavy on JUCO recruits that may be what we need to win in 2019 and set up the 2020 & 2021 recruiting, but JUCO players are downgraded by the sites and will pull down our class rank. We should watch that along with the raw numbers to get a feel for the emphasis with this recruiting class. With that, also, is the transfer market which does not even count toward the recruiting ranks.
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I agree... to a point. There's a reason going JUCO heavy is not that desirable.
 
Duff Man said:
I agree... to a point. There's a reason going JUCO heavy is not that desirable.
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Problem is that those 2015 & 2016 classes left a lot of holes in our upper classes for this season. We do need some help beyond relying on impact 18 year olds.
 
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