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30 for 30 "The Gospel According to Mac"

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Football is a religion to many people. But few know the depths of both faiths as well as Bill McCartney, the former head football coach of the University of Colorado and the founder of Promise Keepers, a Christian men’s ministry. “The Gospel According to Mac” tells the truth-is-stranger-than-fiction story of Coach Mac’s controversial national championship run – two seasons that followed multiple arrests and strife between his mostly African-American players and the Boulder police, continued with McCartney’s own daughter becoming pregnant by the team’s quarterback before seeing that same quarterback struck by cancer, and culminated in consecutive Orange Bowl match-ups against Notre Dame. Bill McCartney’s passionate and often polarizing beliefs have made him many enemies and many admirers, but it’s difficult to deny that he embodies the essential issues facing football in America to this day.
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Tuesday November 3rd, 9pm ET.
http://espnmediazone.com/us/press-r...ek-run-of-new-documentaries/?ex_cid=30for30TW
 
FLounder said:
Here is the IMDb of the Director.
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Ahh. He's the one who did "Bill Russell: My life, my way." Instant qualification. Actually, I've never seen nor heard of "Bill Russell: My life, my way," but it must be good.
 
From what I heard on the radio today, it doesn't sound like it will be very flattering. Hopefully there will be more positive than negative though.

Alfred said he was going to get on the phone to CJ, who was co-producer I think he said, after he heard the synopsis.
 
This can very easily be painted many different ways, good, bad and everything in between. My money is that it will be somewhat balanced, but with a slightly negative slant.
 
I'm expecting plenty of tales framed around football mixing with religion, football as a religion, and hypocrisy. Still, I am looking forward to ESPN broadcasting footage of CU when they were really good. Also from everything I have heard from the players he coached and the stories of his relationship with his grandchildren I think of McCartney as a stellar person in spite of his perceived failings and feet in mouth. Really want to see this and appreciate the man.
 
I am very curious how they will play it. There were and are many who want to minimize men and their importance as fathers and husbands and even more ho bristle at anyone espousing Christian beliefs. It also seems an inordinant amonunt of them buy ink by the barrel and dont pay for their air time.

I would not be the man I am without Coach Mac's influence. Some of the lessons he taught didn't resonate until years later. I thought I was getting away with something leaving Florida to go to CU. In retrospect there was a greater plan at work.
 
Mac is a great man who did great things and, especially, did great things for his players. I know he was somewhat controversial, but if this piece paints him as anything less than great, I'll be shocked and dismayed. He was the kind of man any parent would've wanted their kid to play for.
 
I thought it was more going to be about the struggle of football programs in terms of players getting in trouble but also performing well on the field and specifically how the head football coach deals with the administration.
 
Duff Man said:
A 30 for 30 would not be very compelling if it was all sunshine.
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I don't think it'll be "all sunshine." There are certainly some dark sides to the Mac era. There were players getting into trouble, the "5th down" thing, the religion controversy, etc. But, as a whole, I think the Mac era was highly positive. He took a bottom feeder to the MNC. He was never accused of cheating. He took kids from the inner city and, for the most part, developed them into men. Even his daughter's children born out of wedlock have turned into an inspiring story.
 
I'm guessing it will set up like this:

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Burrito Palazzo said:
No, but the backlash of people who idolized him made me think about "heroes." They both did great things. Cosby did (alledgedly) do horrible things. Mac...had his moments.
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What "moments" would those be? His Embree firing rant?
 
Burrito Palazzo said:
No, but the backlash of people who idolized him made me think about "heroes." They both did great things. Cosby did (alledgedly) do horrible things. Mac...had his moments.
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Mac had his religion, which turned a lot of people off. Outside of that, he didn't have "moments" that I can recall.
 
SuperiorBuff said:
I never said that, but he had none that would justify inclusion in a statement of shortfalls with Cosby as the example.
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First, we don't know what Cosby did or did not do. Second, same for Mac.

Using FlaBuff's statement as an example, Mac did great things. My point is observing the nature of other people who idolize, not to say anything in particular about the object of their affection.
 
I don't know if this is isolated to the Colorado fan base or not, but coming on here and reading posts tearing down our greatest coaches and players is ridiculous.

The posts on Bill M, Alfred W, Klatt; they're all ridiculous. These guys have done more for the program than we fans could ever imagine doing and still bleed black and gold to this day.
 
Hkylw21 said:
I don't know if this is isolated to the Colorado fan base or not, but coming on here and reading posts tearing down our greatest coaches and players is ridiculous.
The posts on Bill M, Alfred W, Klatt; they're all ridiculous. These guys have done more for the program than we fans could ever imagine doing and still bleed black and gold to this day.
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Holy crap.. This! I do think it is pretty isolated to our fan base. I don't think I even realized it until you said it but seriously. I realize i'm guilty of the alumni bashing too (especially with Klatt). But despite Coach mac saying some stupid things recently he has devoted so much of his time heart into CU. On top of that, what an incredible role model for young men (including myself when I was young). The guy isn't perfect Burrito, but no one ever said he was and Mac certainly never said anything of the sort. If we can't be proud of a coach who got us our only national championship, our only heisman trophy, stuck with the program after his daughter got pregnant by a player, and then left it at the height of his career to commit as much as he could into his sick wife then WTH. And I get his promise keepers and christianity turn a lot of people off but geeze, the intent and goals behind that are even incredible. I feel like we should be proud to have affiliation to someone like this.

No use having "tradition" if we're not proud of the guys who created it.
 
Hkylw21 said:
I don't know if this is isolated to the Colorado fan base or not, but coming on here and reading posts tearing down our greatest coaches and players is ridiculous.

The posts on Bill M, Alfred W, Klatt; they're all ridiculous. These guys have done more for the program than we fans could ever imagine doing and still bleed black and gold to this day.
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Lukeasaurus said:
Holy crap.. This! I do think it is pretty isolated to our fan base. I don't think I even realized it until you said it but seriously. I realize i'm guilty of the alumni bashing too (especially with Klatt). But despite Coach mac saying some stupid things recently he has devoted so much of his time heart into CU. On top of that, what an incredible role model for young men (including myself when I was young). The guy isn't perfect Burrito, but no one ever said he was and Mac certainly never said anything of the sort. If we can't be proud of a coach who got us our only national championship, our only heisman trophy, stuck with the program after his daughter got pregnant by a player, and then left it at the height of his career to commit as much as he could into his sick wife then WTH. And I get his promise keepers and christianity turn a lot of people off but geeze, the intent and goals behind that are even incredible. I feel like we should be proud to have affiliation to someone like this.

No use having "tradition" if we're not proud of the guys who created it.
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I'm guessing Burrito was more responding to DBT's post:

DBT said:
Mac is a great man who did great things and, especially, did great things for his players. I know he was somewhat controversial, but if this piece paints him as anything less than great, I'll be shocked and dismayed. He was the kind of man any parent would've wanted their kid to play for.
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