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A nice feather in the cap for the Pac-12 Networks . . .
- Thread starter cmgoods
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The author makes the point that DirecTV subscribers need to leave in order to put pressure on them to carry the network. I did that. Comcast sucks so bad in comparison that I was back within 6 months.
Is Directv that great? I keep reading people saying they won't leave. I don't know, I've never had it. I guess I don't watch that much tv. I got Time Warner just because they have Pac 12 Network. I live in Texas, and didn't always get the bball games, but could watch them online. Even with regular cable I still have more channels than I could ever watch.
It's good.
I've had DirecTV for about 15 years I think, and although you have to brush the snow out of the dish occasionally, it's very good. Dumped comcast one new years day when there were still a lot of bowl games that day. I called because I couldn't get a signal, and the guy asked me if I could reprogram my tv. Huh? Tried to explain that I was a cable customer, not a tv reprogrammer. Oh well. Had to spend that day in a bar.
Can't blame PAC 12 network for holding out for what they need, but I'm not changing, nor are all of the bars that subscribe to DTV for the NFL package.
Can't blame PAC 12 network for holding out for what they need, but I'm not changing, nor are all of the bars that subscribe to DTV for the NFL package.
And what seems to be the problem here?:lol:
We will switch to DirecTV as soon as it carries the Pac-12 Network. We have Cox, but have wanted to switch to DirecTV for awhile for the Donks games. We have made this known to DirecTV. Obviously, they aren't going to pick-up the Pac-12 Network just for us, but if enough non-DirecTV customers express that sentiment, it could move the decision forward. I thought I read awhile back on AllBuffs that a deal would come prior to football season. Any news on that?
jahbrahakala
Member
Well all of you LOYAL DirectTV customers are proving DTV right in taking their position. They bet you would be more loyal to them than the Pac, and appear to be right.
Never believed in rewarding bad behavior, but it seems to work here.
Personally enjoyed being able to watch the Buff's Pac network games live last year. KOA is good for radio, but no substitute for the real thing.
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“We’re on schedule, and right on plan, in terms of distribution for the Pac-12 Networks,” she said. “I feel good about that. There’s an obligation as fans, that if they want Pac-12 Networks and DirecTV is not carrying the Pac-12 Networks, the fan has to be willing to drop DirecTV and pick up a carrier that is.
“It’s a very difficult and complicated business and I am in the trenches with it. Fans just can’t hang onto DirecTV and put all the onus on the Pac-12. We can offer it and provide DirecTV with a very fair business offer, the same one (other carriers have contracted for), but we can’t force DirecTV to take it. This is where I’m going to ask fans to step up.”
Never believed in rewarding bad behavior, but it seems to work here.
Personally enjoyed being able to watch the Buff's Pac network games live last year. KOA is good for radio, but no substitute for the real thing.
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“We’re on schedule, and right on plan, in terms of distribution for the Pac-12 Networks,” she said. “I feel good about that. There’s an obligation as fans, that if they want Pac-12 Networks and DirecTV is not carrying the Pac-12 Networks, the fan has to be willing to drop DirecTV and pick up a carrier that is.
“It’s a very difficult and complicated business and I am in the trenches with it. Fans just can’t hang onto DirecTV and put all the onus on the Pac-12. We can offer it and provide DirecTV with a very fair business offer, the same one (other carriers have contracted for), but we can’t force DirecTV to take it. This is where I’m going to ask fans to step up.”
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With the upcoming move, we chose ATT Uverse over DirectTV solely based on Pac-12 Network. I need to send DTV an email to let them know. Would have been nice to get that NFL Sunday Ticket for free as a new subscriber, but screw them. They've been offered the deal terms other carriers have accepted but still won't add PACN to the lineup.
Every few months I get a call or email from DirecTV asking me to come back. My answer is always the same: call me when you get the PAC-12 network, and I'm back. Until then, there's no way...
More people need to actually drop them and go to dish or the cable options, until then it's going to stay at the impasse it's at right now.
More people need to actually drop them and go to dish or the cable options, until then it's going to stay at the impasse it's at right now.
This isn't a directv problem. This is a PAC 12 / Larry Scott problem.
So the PAC12 should go crawling on their knees to Dtv and give them the programing for substantially less than other carriers pay for it? I don't buy that for a second.
The PAC has an obligation to get fair value for the product. If they give Dtv to low a price then they devalue the product for all the other providers as well.
I had considered changing to DTV if they had picked up the network and Dish didn't. Since the opposite happened I am glad to stay with Dish.
bigbang2
blindslighted
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/e...imates-it-could-drop-sunday-ticket-after-2014
They should share the rights among all of the cable providers.
They should share the rights among all of the cable providers.
I'm just saying that DTV is going to be fine without the PAC12...
If the PAC12 wants to pull in a larger home audience, DTV is the best route to accomplish that. L Scott is probably aware of that but he and his staff haven't been able to negotiate a deal, and they appear to be sitting on their hands.
I'll stick with DTV for their other programming and service options, and watch the games at the red zone, blake street, or some other sports bar when I don't get it at home...
Comcast getting installed Friday. The reason we even looked was pac12 network. I'll make sure to tell Dtv when I cancel Friday afternoon.
tough to put it side by side but over all I am getting a better deal with comcast.
Old total was abou $330 per month:
- Burst internet from Comcast (moved to them a while back cause CenturyLink sucked so bad) - $80
- 2 phone lines with basic features and unlimited LD from CenturyLink
- Americas top 150 or something like that (the upgraded basic package) + the sports package. 3 HD DVRs (each could record 2 and watch 1) plus 2 other boxes but no pac12 network
- The bill for the last two came bundled and was about $250 per month.
New total is $200
- same internet
- same phone features just on their voip service
- The "Digital Premiere" + Sports package, 3 hd dvrs (these can now record 4 things and watch 1) plus 4 other boxes (I had 3 tv's connected to one box n the basement, now they each have their own) and the pac12 network plus they gave me all premium channels for a year and said "when that expires come back and we'll sort something out for the next year"
so saving $130 a month with more crap. Please keep in mind they haven't even installed this yet so it may all go to hell on me but on paper it seems like a good deal.
There is nothing wrong with DTV deciding that they don't see the value in the P12 network, but financially, Scott's hands are tied in what kind of deal he can offer DTV w/o jeopardizing the viability of the network. That's because it's common for other carriers (cable or dish) to have clauses that would force the P12 to give them the price DTV pays for the P12 network. Seen a lot of references to that possibility on Wilner's blog, though no one out there has seen the actual contracts. Caving into DTV could mean the end of P12 Network IMO. Other providers will ask for a lesser deal either now or in the future, and the conference can't say no at that point already having made the deal with DTV. The current deal with Comcast/TWC/Cox/Dish guarantees enoguh money to cover costs and be profitable for a while. Jeopardizing profitability just to get on DTV would be a huge mistake, especially if DTV loses NFL in 2014. The cable companies are not such suckers that they would have negotiated a 12 year contract where they pay the P12 the big $$$ w/o some protection from someone like DTV getting a much cheaper deal (and take their customers).
I understand the huge money that cable costs and am not going to call anyone who chooses DTV (or cuts the cord) as poor fans or whatever. It's simply a business deal, and DTV won't change their mind unless enough people leave. Comcast Cable + Tivo Premiere + Comcast blast internet (century link sucks so hard) is not the cheapest, but it's adequate (especially with the TiVo addition which recently allows on demand).
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EddieCrowder
Well-Known Member
Same here, as a Colorado native I have to watch the Broncos on Sunday, and DirecTv is the "exclusive" outlet for NFL Sunday Ticket for at least 2 more years. Considering the way we have played the last couple seasons to leave DirecTv for that is not an option