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AFCA Meeting - Usually great coach networking... Art Briles speaking

There’s a couple ways of looking at this. First, on the surface it looks like the AFCA is condoning Briles behavior. However, if you read the article, it looks more like they are asking Briles to educate the attendees on what he did wrong and how it could be avoided in the future. When viewed in that light, who better to have speak at the convention?

Oh, and **** bailer.
 
Not Sure said:
There’s a couple ways of looking at this. First, on the surface it looks like the AFCA is condoning Briles behavior. However, if you read the article, it looks more like they are asking Briles to educate the attendees on what he did wrong and how it could be avoided in the future. When viewed in that light, who better to have speak at the convention?

Oh, and **** bailer.
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Here's how you avoid it: report accusations of sexual assault to the proper authorities instead of bullying accusers and covering up. Oh yeah, and don't recruit sexual predators into your program either. There is nothing to be learned here that everyone doesn't already know.
 
Not Sure said:
There’s a couple ways of looking at this. First, on the surface it looks like the AFCA is condoning Briles behavior. However, if you read the article, it looks more like they are asking Briles to educate the attendees on what he did wrong and how it could be avoided in the future. When viewed in that light, who better to have speak at the convention?

Oh, and **** bailer.
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Jesus you can’t help rationaling ways to avoid looking at despicable behavior for what it is.
 
Not Sure said:
There’s a couple ways of looking at this. First, on the surface it looks like the AFCA is condoning Briles behavior. However, if you read the article, it looks more like they are asking Briles to educate the attendees on what he did wrong and how it could be avoided in the future. When viewed in that light, who better to have speak at the convention?

Oh, and **** bailer.
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That explanation works if and only if he had ever admitted that what he did was very, very wrong, and was actually sorry for what he did (as opposed to thinking he did nothing wrong and is just sorry he got caught doing nothing wrong).

He hasn't even come close to that.

**** him, and **** Baylor.
 
skibum said:
That explanation works if and only if he had ever admitted that what he did was very, very wrong, and was actually sorry for what he did (as opposed to thinking he did nothing wrong and is just sorry he got caught doing nothing wrong).

He hasn't even come close to that.

**** him, and **** Baylor.
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Agree with this.

Briles is an example of compromising anything and everything that is decent in order to win, and you are right he has still taken zero responsibility much less shown any remorse or concern for those girls who were the victims of his band of rapist thugs, it's all okay though because he won a bunch of games and they sold a lot of tickets.

Baylor is still an embarrassment. They removed Briles but kept many of his assistants (who were involved in recruiting the offenders and who despite knowledge of what was going on either ignored or even protected the players involved.) They have done some window dressing changes in staff but much of the athletic department staff is still there and lots of evidence to show that they still don't have a functional title IX office in place and frankly don't want one.

This is the same school that was one of the worst cheaters in the SWC (a notable accomplishment in itself) before that league destroyed itself, that had a basketball player murder another player and was shown in court to be paying players and knowingly ignoring drug use and probably distribution.

None of this should have been a surprise considering they hired the coach, Dave Bliss from SMU where he was sanctioned for widespread cheating as a part of the athletic department that ended up with the football team getting the death penalty.

Fast forward a few years and Baylor is recruiting and harboring rapist with Briles as the head coach. Neither he nor the school has made any kind of admission, even an insincere one, acknowledging anything more than they have absolutely been forced to.

I don't in any way believe that Briles or Baylor has had any kind of change of heart and if they thought it would win them some games would go to work tonight on recruiting the next violent sexually abusive talented player to their program.
 
skibum said:
That explanation works if and only if he had ever admitted that what he did was very, very wrong, and was actually sorry for what he did (as opposed to thinking he did nothing wrong and is just sorry he got caught doing nothing wrong).
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Absolutely. That’s a nuance that is important to include. Like having a convicted rapist or murderer talk to a bunch of at risk kids about the bad choices he made.
 
Tumpkin is there FWIW.

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skibum said:
So, we can't criticize a guy and a school that allowed a culture of raping women to go completely unchecked for years because we fired someone for beating their wife?

Please explain how that works.
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No problem with that. But we are not void of our own issues with the Tumpkin situation.

Briles is far more egregious.

And the AFCA is having Briles there when CFB is a cover your ass, good ole boy culture. So it’s not like his incident is isolated.
 
The stuff that went on at Baylor was really really bad. Having said that, the school's recruiting ranking on Rivals is 27, with 3 four stars and 16 three stars. Ahead of Colorado, Texas A&M, and Florida State among many others. While its obvious that a lot of institutional control went way off the tracks there, it sure hasn't effected a large group of high level local TX recruits who've been offered there, as well as their parents I'd suppose. I'm just a little fascinated by the obsessive bordering on perverse interest on Allbuffs in the admittedly disgusting events at Baylor. The school isn't in our conference and we never play them in any sport, so while I grant you guys the morally correct position that you're coming from, I don't quite get the ongoing fascination. And I'm certainly not looking for a response to this post.

Back to the NC game. Saban HAS to put the true freshman QB from Hawaii in. Hurts just ain't cuttin it.
 
PAHIBuff said:
The stuff that went on at Baylor was really really bad. Having said that, the school's recruiting ranking on Rivals is 27, with 3 four stars and 16 three stars. Ahead of Colorado, Texas A&M, and Florida State among many others. While its obvious that a lot of institutional control went way off the tracks there, it sure hasn't effected a large group of high level local TX recruits who've been offered there, as well as their parents I'd suppose. I'm just a little fascinated by the obsessive bordering on perverse interest on Allbuffs in the admittedly disgusting events at Baylor. The school isn't in our conference and we never play them in any sport, so while I grant you guys the morally correct position that you're coming from, I don't quite get the ongoing fascination. And I'm certainly not looking for a response to this post.

Back to the NC game. Saban HAS to put the true freshman QB from Hawaii in. Hurts just ain't cuttin it.
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What part of F-U-C-K Baylor do you not understand?
 
PAHIBuff said:
The stuff that went on at Baylor was really really bad. Having said that, the school's recruiting ranking on Rivals is 27, with 3 four stars and 16 three stars. Ahead of Colorado, Texas A&M, and Florida State among many others. While its obvious that a lot of institutional control went way off the tracks there, it sure hasn't effected a large group of high level local TX recruits who've been offered there, as well as their parents I'd suppose. I'm just a little fascinated by the obsessive bordering on perverse interest on Allbuffs in the admittedly disgusting events at Baylor. The school isn't in our conference and we never play them in any sport, so while I grant you guys the morally correct position that you're coming from, I don't quite get the ongoing fascination. And I'm certainly not looking for a response to this post.

Back to the NC game. Saban HAS to put the true freshman QB from Hawaii in. Hurts just ain't cuttin it.
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Well, here's your response anyway.

**** bailer went out with an orchestrated negative PR campaign against CU when the Buffs were making the move to the Pac-12. They were lobbying hard for it to be them with UT, OU and aTm at that time and were really over the top. Even worse than how they did TCU with the way they played politics to get into the Big 12 when it made no sense to take **** bailer and the Waco market over TCU and the DFW market.

Basically, we're talking about a historical loser here that has only had moments of success when breaking the rules or playing dirty politics. Murder cover-ups. Rape cover-ups.

Right now, the only reason they've recruited so well in football is the same reason they had their best recruiting classes right after the murder scandal that rocked their basketball program: their booster network uses the Baptist churches to funnel "charitable" donations to pay for players. It's this practice that is at the heart of the FBI investigation. I don't expect them to get caught, but it's an open secret that they're the worst actor and outlaw in college sports.
 
Buffnik said:
Well, here's your response anyway.

**** bailer went out with an orchestrated negative PR campaign against CU when the Buffs were making the move to the Pac-12. They were lobbying hard for it to be them with UT, OU and aTm at that time and were really over the top. Even worse than how they did TCU with the way they played politics to get into the Big 12 when it made no sense to take **** bailer and the Waco market over TCU and the DFW market.

Basically, we're talking about a historical loser here that has only had moments of success when breaking the rules or playing dirty politics. Murder cover-ups. Rape cover-ups.

Right now, the only reason they've recruited so well in football is the same reason they had their best recruiting classes right after the murder scandal that rocked their basketball program: their booster network uses the Baptist churches to funnel "charitable" donations to pay for players. It's this practice that is at the heart of the FBI investigation. I don't expect them to get caught, but it's an open secret that they're the worst actor and outlaw in college sports.
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Thanks. Now that you've reminded me I do remember all that old B12 history. As I recall it was the influence of Ann Richards that got Baylor in ahead of TCU, and the Horned Frog faithful were livid.

My God. This halftime show BLOWS. And this is coming from a guy that actually likes some hip hop music, believe it or not.
 
DBT said:
I almost wish they’d have let him speak but no one showed up. Just a completely empty room.
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Funny, I was thinking the same thing when this story first came out. Would have loved it if all coaches all got up and walked out as he started talking.
 
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