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Anyone miss Richard Roby?

I think this is the same team that Jeremy Tyler (the celebrated HS recruit from San Diego who skipped college to play a year overseas) plays for.
 
That "bum" is in the top 10 for just about every MBB record at CU.
 
bombay said:
I miss him. Had he left after his sophomore season he likely would have been a late 1st round pick.
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my memory is that scouts were concerned about his physique and was going to slide into the 2nd. but, yes, he should have gone.
 
Mick Ronson said:
my memory is that scouts were concerned about his physique and was going to slide into the 2nd. but, yes, he should have gone.
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The physique issue is why I'm shocked by projections of Alec Burks going 3rd overall. He is clearly talented, fairly athletic, and long, but strength has to be a concern. (don't anyone try to use Kevin Durant as an example; he is a solid two or three inches taller and has every skill in the book so it's a completely different case)
 
Rugged said:
The physique issue is why I'm shocked by projections of Alec Burks going 3rd overall. He is clearly talented, fairly athletic, and long, but strength has to be a concern. (don't anyone try to use Kevin Durant as an example; he is a solid two or three inches taller and has every skill in the book so it's a completely different case)
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I hear what you are saying, but just watching Burks play you know he is going to be great in the NBA. You can get someone to put on weight and add strength, but you can't teach them to jump, absorb contact, contort your body and then put up a beautiful finishing move and then head to the stripe for a +1. His skillset is perfect for the one on one style of the NBA game.
 
tante said:
I hear what you are saying, but just watching Burks play you know he is going to be great in the NBA. You can get someone to put on weight and add strength, but you can't teach them to jump, absorb contact, contort your body and then put up a beautiful finishing move and then head to the stripe for a +1. His skillset is perfect for the one on one style of the NBA game.
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I hope he can be great in the NBA. He has a lot of work to do, but he could have a lot of success.
 
tante said:
that is your first post? Roby was still a good Buff and played tough for us for 4 years, maybe you should show him some respect.
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He was also a ball hawg, that didnt know how to play with a team. Granted there wasnt much of a team around him those years, but if he worked within a program rather than try to run his own, he would have done much better. I think much of that you can blame on Richardo Patton.

Look at his freshman and sophmore years, a little timid, and didnt try to run the show as he respected many of his elders, but then he said he was going to try to run his own show as a resume to make it in the NBA, but he did not have the skill to do so. But he did have the skills to pad his numbers.

Yes he played for 4 years, but if he ever thought he would be drafted first round at any time, he would have been gone, quick, thats not respectable, that is someone looking out for themselves

End result, yes he was talented, yes he did get good numbers, but he was a bum because he did not help a team, but rather tried to have a team help him. He was not NBA caliber talent, he was talented enough to be a great college player, and should have left it at that. And if he did that, he would have probably gotten a couple years in the NBA before they realized he wasnt cut out for it.
 
GoBuffs!! said:
He was also a ball hawg, that didnt know how to play with a team. Granted there wasnt much of a team around him those years, but if he worked within a program rather than try to run his own, he would have done much better. I think much of that you can blame on Richardo Patton.

Look at his freshman and sophmore years, a little timid, and didnt try to run the show as he respected many of his elders, but then he said he was going to try to run his own show as a resume to make it in the NBA, but he did not have the skill to do so. But he did have the skills to pad his numbers.

Yes he played for 4 years, but if he ever thought he would be drafted first round at any time, he would have been gone, quick, thats not respectable, that is someone looking out for themselves

End result, yes he was talented, yes he did get good numbers, but he was a bum because he did not help a team, but rather tried to have a team help him. He was not NBA caliber talent, he was talented enough to be a great college player, and should have left it at that. And if he did that, he would have probably gotten a couple years in the NBA before they realized he wasnt cut out for it.
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I think you are being a little harsh. He was a guy who was long enough to cover SFs and quick enough to stay with SGs. He had a decent, not great outside shot and could slash to the hoop. Roby was hurt by two things, one was a bad ankle sprain his senior year that he played through but that limited his mobility and his ability to cover as well as messed up his lift of his shot. The bigger issue was playing for
Ricardo who could recruit talent but showed no abiity to develop it while he was here. In my mind more good players regressed under Ricardo than improved.

I think Burks has some star quality to him that NBA teams look for. He did improve his game under Buzz and I would expect him to get better under Tad along with maturing into his body with some more bulk and muscle. The guy who I think is going to have a chance at a long career is Higgins. The league only has room for a certain number of stars. Higgins has shown that he can and will defend, and can be an effective and efficient player on the floor even when he is not scoring or handling the ball. That said he still has the offensive skills to do something with it when asked but he doesn't have to score a bunch to help his team win. Guys like that tend to be very welcome in a league full of guys who think that they should be the star.
 
Agree with you on Higgins. He's pretty much the ideal guy to pick with a mid- to late- 2nd round pick and hope he sticks with your team for 6-8 years.
 
I will also agree about higgins, he wont be your star, or even your headliner, but he will likely put in solid minutes, and be a good role player.

Burks, could possibly do well in the NBA, and I think they will do really well under Boyle. Boyle is going to play a type of basketball that will fit Burks and Higgins really well, and they will end up looking really good for NBA scouts. I really dont think that Bz's type of play suited them very well, they seemed like they could get out and run a lot of the time, and Bz was stoping them when they had a clear shot at the basket.
 
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