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Are the men better off in the NIT this year?

ahoelsken

ahoelsken

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Fair question, and I think barring some sort of ridiculous hot streak, that looks like where we're heading. Given the amount of freshmen and sophomores on this team (Dustin Thomas, Treshaun Fletcher, Jaron Hopkins), would it be better off to make the NIT and make a deep run in that tournament rather than getting absurdly hot and getting bounced in the first round of the NCAAs?
 
Why does this question come up every season? Buffnik's answer should suffice and let's just lock the thread.
 
You're asking if we are better off having a worse season. No, idiot.
 
Play 1 game in the NCAA and lose by 20+ or allow a young, work in progress play in a tournament for an additional month.

Some teams would benefit from the extra practice and games. This would be one of those teams.
 
GoBuffs88 said:
Play 1 game in the NCAA and lose by 20+ or allow a young, work in progress play in a tournament for an additional month.

Some teams would benefit from the extra practice and games. This would be one of those teams.
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No.

It's better to have played well & gone on a run when the games mattered in order to make the Dance. Always.
 
Buffnik said:
No.

It's better to have played well & gone on a run when the games mattered in order to make the Dance. Always.
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Would benefit the team and the program in the long run for more practice and games. Making the NIT final four would be a huge accomplishment for the team this season.
 
GoBuffs88 said:
Would benefit the team and the program in the long run for more practice and games. Making the NIT final four would be a huge accomplishment for the team this season.
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Making the dance would be a better accomplishment.
 
GoBuffs88 said:
Would benefit the team and the program in the long run for more practice and games. Making the NIT final four would be a huge accomplishment for the team this season.
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1. You're assuming they would make the NIT Final 4 if they got in. Huge assumption. (Irrelevant to me, either way, fwiw.)

2. Some programs turn down NIT invites.

This thread would be more pertinent if we asked the question of which post-season tournaments should CU MBB turn down if it has a season that doesn't reach the NCAA Tournament. Should CU ever play in a CIT? A CBI? A NIT?

I'd still accept NIT but would refuse the others.
 
Buffnik said:
1. You're assuming they would make the NIT Final 4 if they got in. Huge assumption. (Irrelevant to me, either way, fwiw.)

2. Some programs turn down NIT invites.

This thread would be more pertinent if we asked the question of which post-season tournaments should CU MBB turn down if it has a season that doesn't reach the NCAA Tournament. Should CU ever play in a CIT? A CBI? A NIT?

I'd still accept NIT but would refuse the others.
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Assuming the team makes any tournament is a reach.

Three straight years of NCAA bids and you think we'd turn down a post season tournament?

We don't have the tradition to justify that.
 
GoBuffs88 said:
Assuming the team makes any tournament is a reach.

Three straight years of NCAA bids and you think we'd turn down a post season tournament?

We don't have the tradition to justify that.
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No. I'm not sure if you were born in '88, or graduated then, but you should be old enough to know more than you're showing here.
 
GoBuffs88 said:
Give me extra games and practices all day, the core of this team needs it, badly.
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On the one hand, you have a more successful season and all the NCAA tournament does for the team in terms of experience and recruiting. Plus a shot to do something memorable.

On the other hand, you'd be willing to forgo all of that for lesser achievement and the hope it yields more practices so the team is better positioned to make the NCAA tournament next year.

That makes no sense to me.
 
Extra practices for a team that will have different lineups next year? Fairly useless. Give me the Dance because it means we had a better season, we get to compete at the highest level of competition for the biggest prize, gives our players much needed experience playing in a high pressure tournament game, and gives us a chance to make a sweet sixteen, or elite eight because anything can happen when you're there.

NIT also doesn't even guarantee more practices/games. Could lose first round.
 
Rugged said:
Extra practices for a team that will have different lineups next year? Fairly useless. Give me the Dance because it means we had a better season, we get to compete at the highest level of competition for the biggest prize, gives our players much needed experience playing in a high pressure tournament game, and gives us a chance to make a sweet sixteen, or elite eight because anything can happen when you're there.

NIT also doesn't even guarantee more practices/games. Could lose first round.
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Losing 1 player to graduation, getting 1 transfer who has been practicing with the team all year, and 1 new recruit. Most of the team will remain, and would benefit greatly from the added time.

Not sure how getting beat by Pitt by 29 points helped our team for this year. Didn't see much of that experience help against GW or Hawaii.

I'm assuming as much about playing multiple NIT games as you are assuming we play better than we did against Pitt and keep the game close for more than 4 minutes.
 
Nope. It means we either did well this season and ok in pac12 tourney or won the pac12 tourney. Both of those would be better than how the team is playing now, but let's not pretend anyone cares about the nit.

No one fills a bracket for the NIT and if CU gets their act together could be playing strong enough to win a tourney game. That's be huge.


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No one watches the NIT. Would the 2012 team have been better in the NIT? Probably, but they earned a spot in the big dance, and were one freak performance from a canadian away from the sweet 16. Everyone would have known that, but if they went to the NIT final 4, no one would have cared.
 
GoBuffs88 said:
Would benefit the team and the program in the long run for more practice and games. Making the NIT final four would be a huge accomplishment for the team this season.
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With the remaining # of games + the lack of any quality wins thus far ^^^ is accurate. CU is not a blue blood and even those need to re-load periodically...turning down an invite is absurd. Getting your butt handed to you in the first round does almost nothing long term for the program (hence Tad's reminders). CU not making the big dance is not front page news the likes of a UCLA or Indiana...4 years is not enough history..18-19 wins is still feasible to get into the lesser of the two. The bad losses to date...we need almost 21-22 wins to get into the dance or win the conference championship...pretty steep hill.
 
The NCAA Tournament is always the goal. The prestige, the publicity...ridiculous this is even being debated for the umpteenth time. If CU ends up the NIT, by all means make the most of it. However, claiming it's somehow "better" for CU than being in the Big Dance is absurd. 4 straight Big Dances sells. NIT doesn't. The best preparation for a deep Dance run is being in the Dance previously, not playing Mercer in front of 2,000 fans at the Keg.
 
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If anyone thinks this team is a lock for the NIT, they're delusional.

Last year, there was one 16-win team in the NIT and two 17-win teams. The other 29 teams had 19 or more wins.

So currently at 9-6 with XJ with a high ankle sprain, we need at least 8 more wins to get into the NIT. We'll have to pull a couple upsets to get that done.

So, the better question is: What would a CBI bid mean for this program?
 
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seattlebuff said:
If anyone thinks this team is a lock for the NIT, they're delusional.

Last year, there was one 16-win team in the NIT and two 17-win teams. The other 29 teams had 19 or more wins.

So currently at 9-6 with XJ with a high ankle sprain, we need at least 8 more wins to get into the NIT. We'll have to pull a couple upsets to get that done.

So, the better question is: What would a CBI bid mean for this program?
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I'm just impressed you are posting and its not during or immediately after a loss.
 
Two faulty assumptions: (1) if we make the NIT, we likely go on a deep run; and (2) if the team plays well enough to make the NCAA, we lose by 20 in the first round. If this team makes the dance, it is going to have to play out of its mind down the stretch and will most certainly be "peaking" at the right time. I don't think it is likely we lose by 20 in the first round under those circumstances.
 
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