Article: Time for the mudslinging to stop

[Jens1893]

http://milehighsports.com/2012/11/27/ottewill-time-to-stop-the-mudslinging-in-boulder/

But I recall a different Jon Embree – the one I interviewed just days after he got what he called “his dream job,” the one who could have cared less about “stuff” and “things.”
“(At your introductory press conference), you mentioned that when you arrived on campus as a freshman football player, you had one dumbbell in the weight room. In modern college football, much has been made about facilities, bells and whistles. Where do you weigh in on that?” I asked, sitting across from Embree at the sizeable desk (no clue whose it was) in his office.
“What do I want from a facilities standpoint? If we need better computer rooms for our student-athletes, then let’s get it for them. If we need better food at training table, then let’s get that for them. If we need a treadmill that you can run on underwater for rehab, then let’s get that. That’s the stuff you need – I believe. (Those things) help your athletes directly. New buildings don’t affect your athletes directly. Nice locker rooms? Yeah, they affect you. But does it have to be a special kind of wood? Does it have to have certain engravings on everything? No. That’s where I am with the facilities. I consider myself a ‘need guy.’ I just don’t go get stuff that I want; I get stuff that I need. I believe if you get caught up in keeping up with the Joneses, and trying to have the best this or the best that, you spoil those guys.”
He continued on about his days as a CU assistant, back when the Buffs won the Big 12 title.
“There’s a certain badge you ask guys to wear at the University of Colorado,” he said. “There’s a certain badge about having to walk up that hill every day. There was a certain badge about, ‘Okay, well, we don’t have a bubble. We’re practicing outside for the Big 12 (Championship Game) and it’s 12 degrees and it’s dimly lit.’ Our guys were out there saying, ‘We’re going to kill Texas because we know they aren’t working like we are.’ There’s a fine line with facilities between needing things and wanting things.”
“Maybe this is reading between the lines,” I said, “but don’t you think if you’re talking to the kid who’s enamored by posh digs, TVs in the locker room, etc., you’ve got the wrong kind of kid?”
“Right. Exactly,” Embree nodded. “I want kids who want to build and add to the tradition, not take from it.”

The day he was introduced as CU’s head football coach, Embree bluntly took race out of the equation.
“At the end of the day, I’m a football coach,” he told the media. “There is no category for how many games a black coach won or how many games a white coach won. It’s how many games did you win. It’s just a W and an L, and I have to stack up W’s.”

2nd try after my other thread was thread-jacked

 

[JWP303]

Mile High Sports appears to be the only voice of reason in the local media. Doug correctly calls out the Embree Camp and their sour grapes media campaign.

I wish Salomon Wilcots' interview with Drew Goodman would have gotten more play - he is a good friend of Embree's but basically acknowledged that he didn't make the most of his opportunity. I feel like it needs to come from a guy like him to carry the most weight.

 

[Jens1893]

Mile High Sports appears to be the only voice of reason in the local media. Doug correctly calls out the Embree Camp and their sour grapes media campaign.

I wish Salomon Wilcots' interview with Drew Goodman would have gotten more play - he is a good friend of Embree's but basically acknowledged that he didn't make the most of his opportunity. I feel like it needs to come from a guy like him to carry the most weight.

Yup, I fairly regularly listen to Burns and Kiszla for their Bronco talk and because they have good co-hosts in Lindsay Jones and Wesley Woodyard, but yesterday I also listened to Goodman and later Spano and I really haven´t had an issue with what either of them had to say. Even Kiszla is tolerable on the show, although he likes to troll a little sometimes.

 

[JWP303]

Yup, I fairly regularly listen to Burns and Kiszla for their Bronco talk and because they have good co-hosts in Lindsay Jones and Wesley Woodyard, but yesterday I also listened to Goodman and later Spano and I really haven´t had an issue with what either of them had to say. Even Kiszla is tolerable on the show, although he likes to troll a little sometimes.

Kiszla is more tolerable on radio than in print, which is weird. But I thought his column last night was a joke - total appeal to emotion while completely ignoring the factual case for firing Embree. He brings up Embree's crying daughter at the press conference while making no mention of the on-field performance this year. I feel like the media got caught up in the emotion of players and family yesterday, which added to the sour grapes.

 

[antisaint]

I'm glad you re-posted this.

I really do understand there was a lot of emotion yesterday, but some of these Denver media outlets just took advantage of that emotion and let their personalities declare open season on Bohn and CU. I'm really glad that people like Ottewill and Wilcots came out and said what they said with objectivity and level headed professionalism. The part that bugs me was that this professionalism was the exception and not the rule (And continues to be so). I know these guys are just sports personalities but shouldn't they be held so some level of media integrity?

 

[JWP303]

I'm glad you re-posted this.

I really do understand there was a lot of emotion yesterday, but some of these Denver media outlets just took advantage of that emotion and let their personalities declare open season on Bohn and CU. I'm really glad that people like Ottewill and Wilcots came out and said what they said with objectivity and level headed professionalism. The part that bugs me was that this professionalism was the exception and not the rule (And continues to be so). I know these guys are just sports personalities but shouldn't they be held so some level of media integrity?

Big Al should be ashamed of himself as a journalist. He didn't even try to be professional with Bohn yesterday, he was only interested in giving Bohn a piece of his mind. Meanwhile his co-host Dmac is praising him for his passion. Same goes for Klatt this morning - calling Bohn a liar immediately after having him on (over a trivial issue like who is performing classroom checks) was bad form. Very disappointed in those guys.

CJ was biased too, but at least kept the train on the tracks in his interview with Bohn.

 

[antisaint]

Big Al should be ashamed of himself as a journalist. He didn't even try to be professional with Bohn yesterday, he was only interested in giving Bohn a piece of his mind. Meanwhile his co-host Dmac is praising him for his passion. Same goes for Klatt this morning - calling Bohn a liar immediately after having him on (over a trivial issue like who is performing classroom checks) was bad form. Very disappointed in those guys.

CJ was biased too, but at least kept the train on the tracks in his interview with Bohn.

and I know he isn't part of the media however he certainly influences several of these "personalities" but for Mac to come out and say that he wasn't sure about his commitment to the Buffs anymore was just over the top.

 

[CUBUFF80]

Big Al should be ashamed of himself as a journalist. He didn't even try to be professional with Bohn yesterday, he was only interested in giving Bohn a piece of his mind. Meanwhile his co-host Dmac is praising him for his passion. Same goes for Klatt this morning - calling Bohn a liar immediately after having him on (over a trivial issue like who is performing classroom checks) was bad form. Very disappointed in those guys.

CJ was biased too, but at least kept the train on the tracks in his interview with Bohn.

Klatt/Big Al journalists...:lol:

 

[Lt.Col.FrankSlade]

That is one heck of an article.

All that info from Embree at the time of his hiring - his tune has definitely changed.