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Best Coach in PAC-12

Who Is The Top Coach In the PAC-12 (Non-Tad Division)?

  • Dana Altman (Oregon)

    Votes: 9 20.0%

  • Ken Bone (Washington St)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Johnny Dawkins (Stanford)

    Votes: 5 11.1%

  • Ben Howland (UCLA)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Larry Krystowiak (Utah)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Sean Miller (Arizona)

    Votes: 21 46.7%

  • Mike Montgomery (California)

    Votes: 1 2.2%

  • Kevin O'Neill (USC)

    Votes: 1 2.2%

  • Craig Robinson (Oregon St)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Lorenzo Romar (Washington)

    Votes: 8 17.8%

  • Herb Sendek (Arizona St)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    45
Goose

Goose

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Last week at one point, PacHoops and I had a discussion about how if you could have any other coach in the PAC-12 other than your own, who would you choose? We both came up with the same 2-3 names, and I'm just curious if AllBuffs will break out the same. Now I did remove Tad from the equation because otherwise he'd win with 99% of the vote (I figure Liver & the Canadian Duck would vote and throw it all off), so if we didn't have Tad, who would you want?

And I'm also curious about the reasoning. Some of the guys are known for recruiting, but are questionable coaching. Some are known for coaching, but struggle pulling in big time recruits. Let's hear it.
 
Miller - Might be the only that gives Tad a run for his money.
Montgomery - If you can win at Stanford you can win anywhere.
Romar - Because he can recruit.
 
absinthe said:
Miller - Might be the only that gives Tad a run for his money.
Montgomery - If you can win at Stanford you can win anywhere.
Romar - Because he can recruit.
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Problem with Montgomery is health and age. If he's back for next season, my guess is that it's his last.
 
My vote is for Miller. Romar and Altman are also up there. But I really like Krystowiak too, the fact that team managed to win any Pac games is an accomplishment.
 
I took Romar, but Miller and Altman can make a good case, too...

Honestly, my first choice is really Sendek. So that we can fire him and hire Boyle.... :smile2:
 
I went with Miller, but it was a cautious pick. I want to see his players develop this year. He's brought in some great recruits, but are they really getting better under him? That's the big test. They should be a sweet 16 team this year. If Miller gets them there, he's the overwhelming choice in my opinion.

I really like Altman as well. Romar and Montgomery are right there, but IMO are behind the other two.
 
I went with Romar. My assumption is that you could prop up a corpse behind the HC desk at either UCLA or UofA and you'd still get big time commits based on school name alone. Romar has done the most with the least to start from. Might not be as good a game coach as Miller, but he's certainly more than held his own.
 
Larry Krystowiak won games at Utah when he probably shouldn't have won any. But he isn't the best just not the worst. I went with Romar but it isn't a slam dunk. I couldn't go with Miller because his actual coaching skills are so bad. He may never learn how allocate timeouts throughout a game.
 
Altman. I really liked the way that team was playing down the stretch, and I give the vast majority of the credit to Dana. His gameplan in the CEC was near perfect, and should've broken our home court advantage before Stanford raped it. I'm still a little in shock that we managed to best him in LA, **** just fell our way. Still, to take that roster, which had a lot of turnover coming into the season, and get it playing the way he did, says a lot about the man. I also really liked his tenure at Creighton.
 
Goose said:
Last week at one point, PacHoops and I had a discussion about how if you could have any other coach in the PAC-12 other than your own, who would you choose? We both came up with the same 2-3 names, and I'm just curious if AllBuffs will break out the same. Now I did remove Tad from the equation because otherwise he'd win with 99% of the vote (I figure Liver & the Canadian Duck would vote and throw it all off), so if we didn't have Tad, who would you want?

And I'm also curious about the reasoning. Some of the guys are known for recruiting, but are questionable coaching. Some are known for coaching, but struggle pulling in big time recruits. Let's hear it.
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Can we do a "who's the worst coach in the conference" poll? Mean-spirited, but fun. My vote would be for Ken Bone over Sendak by an eyelash. The image of Bone putting an ice cold shooter onto the court to miss big shots against UW in the final seconds is something I can't get out of my head. The WSU beat writer tried the whole "He had a feeling" line of defense... I just laughed at him.
 
I'm hands down for Miller. Goose makes good points about his player dev but I think that's been a by product of his hurried recruiting upon arrival in Tucson. But no excuses, it's got to improve.

If I'm stepping out of my bias shoes (though I sincerely think Miller is the top candidate) it's still hard not to at least mention Howland.
 
pachoops said:
I'm hands down for Miller. Goose makes good points about his player dev but I think that's been a by product of his hurried recruiting upon arrival in Tucson. But no excuses, it's got to improve.

If I'm stepping out of my bias shoes (though I sincerely think Miller is the top candidate) it's still hard not to at least mention Howland.
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Howland could be #1 after next season (just as he would have been if this was 2008). We fans are fickle. And right now he is the guy who somehow missed even the NIT 2 of the past 3 seasons at ****ing UCLA. :smile2:
 
Totally get the fickle argument. Was really just trying to get his name into the game as no one had mentioned it. It's worth noting he's been to 3 final fours but he's not nearly the "hottest" coach in the league.

I also hate that Howland said there'd have been no way he pulls that recruiting class without assistant coach Korey McCray. Sure, credit where credit is due, but it's your damn program.
 
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Went Dawkins - only team we couldn't solve. Granted that was in a large part due to their interior size - but results matter in my world viewed through Gold colored lenses.
 
Wow, honestly surprised to see Miller on top with such a big lead. Winning the recruiting awards is certainly a part of it, but I must be missing what Miller has proven on the x's and o's front to warrant such. He certainly might in a year or two and granted, this list is pretty slim pickings overall, but still...

...To me, it's clearly Romar. What he did in turning Washington around and now having the Huskies as a legitimate Sweet 16 contender every year is downright impressive. Washington was really hurting before he took over and he's stabilized them at/near the top of the Pac on an annual basis.
 
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Altman, Romar, Miller - in that order. Altman is the real deal. I hate that he's fallen into such a great situation in Eugene.
 
sackman said:
Altman, Romar, Miller - in that order. Altman is the real deal. I hate that he's fallen into such a great situation in Eugene.
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it really is pretty tough to pick between those three. I think Romar is doing an incredible job and would have had my vote if Washington didn't do so bad in the PAC:12 tourney this year.
 
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