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Best Guesses at the starting OL after Spring - SIAP

DavisBuff

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CU at the game has a brief write up on the spring OL excpectations and Bernardi.

OL will be key to our success. MacIntyre/Lindgren are smart enough to adjust the play calling to hide the OL weaknesses, but the better the OL plays the more options we have on offense.

My guess is:

LT Lewis
LG Munyer
C Handler
RG Harris
RT Nembot

Top Back ups

Mustoe, Irwin, & Crabb

Doesn't sound dominate, but should be more than serviceable, especially when getting some advantages from coaching and play calling.
 
LT is the major question mark. Really wish Lewis was good to go for the spring.
 
I'm hoping Kelley will be able to push all 3 at the interior spots and hopefully Mustoe is ready. Depth is scary, true freshman better be ready in the fall.
 
I did not know that Lewis was out for spring. What is his injury? That hurts. I think he is our best option at LT.
 
LOT-Mustoe
LG- Irwin
C- Handler
RG- Harris
RT- Nembot

Lewis will probably regain his job in the fall at LG.
 
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Serviceable is hardly what i would call that OL on paper. We were mediocre at best on the OL last year and then we lost our best player a year early and our physical freak of a TE. Here's to hoping the Pistol helps make our OL look better on running plays than it did last year.
 
o_robbie said:
Serviceable is hardly what i would call that OL on paper. We were mediocre at best on the OL last year and then we lost our best player a year early and our physical freak of a TE. Here's to hoping the Pistol helps make our OL look better on running plays than it did last year.
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Our Oline could be awful. On the bright side that wouldn't be much different than the last few years.
 
CUFan said:
Our Oline could be awful. On the bright side that wouldn't be much different than the last few years.
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I'm actually thinking the opposite. Last year, we had a lot of plays that took a while to develop which put a lot more stress on our OL than was needed. Lindgren's offense features quick, accurate passes which decreases the stress on the OL. And we don't have Marshall as a OL coach anymore.
 
'Tini said:
I'm actually thinking the opposite. Last year, we had a lot of plays that took a while to develop which put a lot more stress on our OL than was needed. Lindgren's offense features quick, accurate passes which decreases the stress on the OL. And we don't have Marshall as a OL coach anymore.
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I am certainly hoping for what you wrote and believe it is possible, but our depth chart seems to be a real concern.
 
You have to put on your Buff colored glasses to get excited about the OL. The potential is there to have a good year, but a lot of that is banking on potential quickly turning into production.
 
Gold said:
You have to put on your Buff colored glasses to get excited about the OL. The potential is there to have a good year, but a lot of that is banking on potential quickly turning into production.
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Not really. We lose Bahk but return everyone else and they started to come on the last couple games last year. If we can stay healthy we have a pretty good unit.
 
'Tini said:
Not really. We lose Bahk but return everyone else and they started to come on the last couple games last year. If we can stay healthy we have a pretty good unit.
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They played well against Utah. In the three games prior to that they scored:

0pts vs. Stanford
3pts vs. Washington
31pts vs. Arizona. This was a inconsistent game. They started strong with Powell, faded, then put up garbage time points once it was 17-49.

Overall, I don't think they proved much last year other than they were inconsistent at best. But they'll have a chip on their shoulder coming into this year, and improved S&C, and a new coach.
 
'Tini said:
Not really. We lose Bahk but return everyone else and they started to come on the last couple games last year. If we can stay healthy we have a pretty good unit.
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It is an average unit with very limited depth.
 
'Tini said:
I'm actually thinking the opposite. Last year, we had a lot of plays that took a while to develop which put a lot more stress on our OL than was needed. Lindgren's offense features quick, accurate passes which decreases the stress on the OL. And we don't have Marshall as a OL coach anymore.
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I agree with this. Opposing defenses could man up on our wides and bring the house against the line. There's no guarantee that this won't be the case again this year, but I can see a scenario where the line looks better despite the loss of Bahktiari due to changes in scheme and PRich returning.
 
Creebuzz said:
I agree with this. Opposing defenses could man up on our wides and bring the house against the line. There's no guarantee that this won't be the case again this year, but I can see a scenario where the line looks better despite the loss of Bahktiari due to changes in scheme and PRich returning.
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The problem is I am not sure the change in scheme is actually a big positive. Pretty average athleticism as a group.
 
Very good BuffNut99. Duff Man could not have set you up much better.

Anyway, I think OL will surprise. The talent is adequate and will benefit from the quick release passing schemes, better WR play keeping opponents honest off-balance due to the play calling. Also, they should be getting a clear direction on the offensive approach. Bouncing from smash-mouth, to hurry-up, to zone-read really hurt the OLines production. I have not a clue if Bernardi will be better than Marshall, but overall the direction should be much better. We do have some depth at OT in that both Harris and Lewis have potential to move to tackles, if need be. Hopefully, Nembot and Mustoe hold up out there.
 
Duff Man said:
The problem is I am not sure the change in scheme is actually a big positive. Pretty average athleticism as a group.
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MacIntyre said we have a "pretty athletic" OL. Whatever that means. I'm not sure why Munyer would move to Guard after playing Center all year.

LT-Lewis
LG-Handler
C- Munyer
RG-Harris
RT-Nembot

2-deep
LT-Graham
LG-Irwin (he could start)
C- Cotner
RG- ???
RT- ???

Any injuries and we're f'ed
 
Duff Man said:
The problem is I am not sure the change in scheme is actually a big positive. Pretty average athleticism as a group.
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Disagree. Instead of countless 5 to 7 step drops from the QB (ie. slow developing plays) with nothing but possession receivers on the field, the OL had a lot more pressure than it would had the offense featured short, quick passes (ie. Lindgren's new offense). I think now that our offense won't be the most predictable one in D1 football we will have some offensive line success if we can stay healthy.
 
'Tini said:
Disagree. Instead of countless 5 to 7 step drops from the QB (ie. slow developing plays) with nothing but possession receivers on the field, the OL had a lot more pressure than it would had the offense featured short, quick passes (ie. Lindgren's new offense). I think now that our offense won't be the most predictable one in D1 football we will have some offensive line success if we can stay healthy.
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Water Bottle and EB predictable? They had all kinds of plays "and stuff" to run. So they ran on 1st and 2nd and threw the WR screen on 3rd.

Problem was our QBs were more confused than the DBs they were supposed to progressively read!

"Average" OL athleticism at D-1, should lead to an "average" amount of wins = nationwide the average was 6 wins.
 
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'Tini said:
Disagree. Instead of countless 5 to 7 step drops from the QB (ie. slow developing plays) with nothing but possession receivers on the field, the OL had a lot more pressure than it would had the offense featured short, quick passes (ie. Lindgren's new offense). I think now that our offense won't be the most predictable one in D1 football we will have some offensive line success if we can stay healthy.
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I think duff's point is that our OL aren't athletic so they're not going to be very useful on those quick passes where you want OL up the field blocking.
 
White_Rabbit said:
I think duff's point is that our OL aren't athletic so they're not going to be very useful on those quick passes where you want OL up the field blocking.
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I get that (don't really agree) but I was just pointing out that I believe the play calling made the OL look a lot worse than it was.
 
'Tini said:
I get that (don't really agree) but I was just pointing out that I believe the play calling made the OL look a lot worse than it was.
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Very possible. Also, looks like Mac agrees with you that the OL is athletic:

On what he sees from his personnel at Colorado thus far:
The offensive line is pretty athletic
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Thanks to buffcat for the link.
 
We don't have a lot of talent. That said we have enough talent to be decent if used effectively.

The last couple of years the O has been so royally screwed up that nobody knew what we were trying to do. Hopefully we will have at least an attempt at a cohesive offensive plan that guys can prepare for and understand. That alone will make us better.
 
Idk, I saw us getting sacked on 3 step drops. Hopefully, we won't see that. U can't block up 90 series routes, we are in deep ****. We shall see I suppose.
 
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