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Best NFL-Pac-12 combo city

NashBuff

CSU Knob-Slobberer
Just read an article on Hardcore Husky: http://hardcorehusky...-new-era-season

I will be the first to admit that I'm somewhat envious of Seattle because that city has both UW and the Seahawks in the same city and there is a rabid fanbase there for both teams. That got me thinking about who has the best combo of Pac-12 football and NFL football. I'll go with my list here:

1. Seattle
2. Denver-Boulder
3. San Francisco-Palo Alto
4. Glendale-Tempe
5. Oakland-Berkley

DENVER-BOULDER

It takes about 38 minutes to 45 minutes to get from Sports Authority Field to Folsom Field or the other way around. Probably longer due to heavy road construction on US 36 which is the main road between the two cities.

The Broncos have sold out Sports Authority for years and I was also impressed that at least 40k Buff fans showed up to Folsom Field at times despite some of the worst football being played in CU history.

GLENDALE-TEMPE

I was seriously considering ASU when I was about to graduate from high school. The Cardinals were playing at Sun Devil Stadium in Tempe at the time and having two teams share the stadium would have been an awesome exprience if you were an ASU student at the time. That apparently had a lasting effect on the crumbling stadium and the stadium is due for a major overhaul around 2015.

When it comes to the rabid fanbase, this region would be one of the bottom pairs in this case.

SAN FRANCISCO-PALO ALTO

Stanford is enjoying a resurgence and the 49ers made the Super Bowl so things are good on the west part of the Bay Area.

But it's difficult to remove the picture of a half empty Stanford Stadium during the Pac-12 CCG and what former Big 12 Comissioner Dan Bebee had to say about Big 12 teams that were interested in moving to the Pac-12 and the fanbase on the west coast. Stanford should never be allowed to host the Pac-12 CCG again.

OAKLAND-BERKLEY

Raider fans have been long rabid and rancid but they have to put up with a crappy city in Oakland that is on the verge of losing all their pro sports teams.

They had to do a retrofit at Memorial Stadium but I recall that 7k CU fans were in Berkley in 2010 and I don't remember Cal fans being rabid...does the Bay Area not care about Stanford and Cal's football programs?

SEATTLE

The Seahawk fans have been long rabid from the days of the Kingdome and continued that at CL Field. Husky fans can make Husky Stadium loud and they are rabid as well.

I give Seattle the top spot due to the proximity of Husky Stadium to CL Field compared to Denver-Boulder.
 
I'd definitely prefer these combos to Seattle or Oakland:

- Chicago (Nothwestern/Bears)
- D.C. (Redskins/ Univ of Maryland)
- Atlanta (GTech/Falcons)
- Miami
- Boston (Pats/choose any of 6000 major universities)
...and while I wouldn't chose it, for some reason, EVERYBODY from Minneapolis seems to love that friggin place

...I realize (shortly after posting) that you specified Pac-12. But I still hate Oakland and Seattle
 
Not a big fan of it in general, especially when stadiums are shared. Miami playing at SunLife is just absolutely horrid. 25k fans in the lamest setting. Georgia Tech fans are a rare species with ATL being an SEC city, but at least Bobby Dodd is scenic. Boston College is just trapped, no one gives a damn about BC. Pitt with Heinz Field, again, meh. Maryland has at least a small degree of separation and doesn't do something ridiculous like play at FedEx (though Byrd isn't exactly up there on the list of great places to catch a college football game). Given the massive growth opportunity in NOVA, the Redskins should have located FedEx in Loudoun in Virginia instead of the infrastructure nightmare that is Landover, but that's another story for another day.
 
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NashBuff said:
Just read an article on Hardcore Husky: http://hardcorehusky...-new-era-season

I will be the first to admit that I'm somewhat envious of Seattle because that city has both UW and the Seahawks in the same city and there is a rabid fanbase there for both teams. That got me thinking about who has the best combo of Pac-12 football and NFL football. I'll go with my list here:

1. Seattle
2. Denver-Boulder
3. San Francisco-Palo Alto
4. Glendale-Tempe
5. Oakland-Berkley

DENVER-BOULDER

It takes about 38 minutes to 45 minutes to get from Sports Authority Field to Folsom Field or the other way around. Probably longer due to heavy road construction on US 36 which is the main road between the two cities.

The Broncos have sold out Sports Authority for years and I was also impressed that at least 40k Buff fans showed up to Folsom Field at times despite some of the worst football being played in CU history.

GLENDALE-TEMPE

I was seriously considering ASU when I was about to graduate from high school. The Cardinals were playing at Sun Devil Stadium in Tempe at the time and having two teams share the stadium would have been an awesome exprience if you were an ASU student at the time. That apparently had a lasting effect on the crumbling stadium and the stadium is due for a major overhaul around 2015.

When it comes to the rabid fanbase, this region would be one of the bottom pairs in this case.

SAN FRANCISCO-PALO ALTO

Stanford is enjoying a resurgence and the 49ers made the Super Bowl so things are good on the west part of the Bay Area.

But it's difficult to remove the picture of a half empty Stanford Stadium during the Pac-12 CCG and what former Big 12 Comissioner Dan Bebee had to say about Big 12 teams that were interested in moving to the Pac-12 and the fanbase on the west coast. Stanford should never be allowed to host the Pac-12 CCG again.

OAKLAND-BERKLEY

Raider fans have been long rabid and rancid but they have to put up with a crappy city in Oakland that is on the verge of losing all their pro sports teams.

They had to do a retrofit at Memorial Stadium but I recall that 7k CU fans were in Berkley in 2010 and I don't remember Cal fans being rabid...does the Bay Area not care about Stanford and Cal's football programs?

SEATTLE

The Seahawk fans have been long rabid from the days of the Kingdome and continued that at CL Field. Husky fans can make Husky Stadium loud and they are rabid as well.

I give Seattle the top spot due to the proximity of Husky Stadium to CL Field compared to Denver-Boulder.
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Whatever the official number was, it was FAR more than 7k in reality. More like 15k. CU showed up in force for that one.

I consider our distance from Sports Authority a blessing, personally. I want CU being its own college town/atmosphere. Not some combined urban-cluster****.
 
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CUAviator said:
I'd definitely prefer these combos to Seattle or Oakland:

- Chicago (Nothwestern/Bears)
- D.C. (Redskins/ Univ of Maryland)
- Atlanta (GTech/Falcons)
- Miami
- Boston (Pats/choose any of 6000 major universities)
...and while I wouldn't chose it, for some reason, EVERYBODY from Minneapolis seems to love that friggin place

...I realize (shortly after posting) that you specified Pac-12. But I still hate Oakland and Seattle
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Ann Arbor to Detroit is about 40 miles. The Big House crowd should almost rate by itself.
Baton Rouge to New Orleans is about 80 miles.
 
CUAviator said:
I'd definitely prefer these combos to Seattle or Oakland:

- Chicago (Nothwestern/Bears)
- D.C. (Redskins/ Univ of Maryland)
- Atlanta (GTech/Falcons)
- Miami
- Boston (Pats/choose any of 6000 major universities)
...and while I wouldn't chose it, for some reason, EVERYBODY from Minneapolis seems to love that friggin place

...I realize (shortly after posting) that you specified Pac-12. But I still hate Oakland and Seattle
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I was in DC for college and it was a nice thing to have. You could make an argument for Redskins-Ravens-Terps since Baltimore isn't that far from DC and is accessible by the MARC.

Chicago has a huge Illini fanbase there in addition to the Da Bears and Wildcats.

Atlanta is a good choice and UGA isn't that far from Atlanta as well.

Houston has the Texans and UH & Rice. The Saints and Tulane in NO.

Nashville has the Titans and Vandy (and SEC football).
 
Pittsburgh should be near the top of the list. Same stadium for that one.

Minnesota is another great one. I'd say it's better since the Gophers built an on-campus stadium.
 
buffedup said:
Didn't know they were in the Pac 12. Given your love of all things Texas Pac 12, I am surprised.
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I thought we had moved past discussions of PAC12 cities. Atlanta, Chicago, DC... None of them are in the PAC 12 either.
Dallas isn't a horrible city. The combo of the Cowboys and some decent college teams makes it a pretty good place to be if you're a football fan.


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The Pac doesn't have very good NFL/college cities, really.

Seattle is good. Phoenix/Tempe is awful. The Bay Area is okay when the teams are okay, but as you said, that Stanford CCG was an embarrassment.

As far as Denver/Boulder goes, I don't know. CU fans are underrated, and Broncos fans are Broncos fans, but it seems like there is a lot of apathy among the Broncos fanbase toward anything but the Broncos. Denver is just a pro football town and always has been. Also, it seems like many a Buff fan could care less about the Broncos. Buff/Bronco fans are probably only a certain percentage of Buff fans, and a small fraction of Broncos fans.

The wife is from Wisconsin, and it always amazes me how everyone there is both a Packer fan and a Badger fan. Makes me very jealous, to be honest.
 
NashBuff said:
I was in DC for college and it was a nice thing to have. You could make an argument for Redskins-Ravens-Terps since Baltimore isn't that far from DC and is accessible by the MARC.

Chicago has a huge Notre Dame fanbase there in addition to the Da Bears and Wildcats.

Atlanta is a good choice and UGA isn't that far from Atlanta as well.

Houston has the Texans and UH & Rice. The Saints and Tulane in NO.

Nashville has the Titans and Vandy (and SEC football).
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Alfred91 said:
The Pac doesn't have very good NFL/college cities, really.

Seattle is good. Phoenix/Tempe is awful. The Bay Area is okay when the teams are okay, but as you said, that Stanford CCG was an embarrassment.

As far as Denver/Boulder goes, I don't know. CU fans are underrated, and Broncos fans are Broncos fans, but it seems like there is a lot of apathy among the Broncos fanbase toward anything but the Broncos. Denver is just a pro football town and always has been. Also, it seems like many a Buff fan could care less about the Broncos. Buff/Bronco fans are probably only a certain percentage of Buff fans, and a small fraction of Broncos fans.

The wife is from Wisconsin, and it always amazes me how everyone there is both a Packer fan and a Badger fan. Makes me very jealous, to be honest.
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Wisconsin is set up pretty well for that situation because they only have one real college football team. Madison and Green Bay are also hours apart from each other. If you took all of the rammies fan base and rolled them into ours you would have some serious numbers.

Also as far as Chicago goes I would pair the bears with notre dame more than northwestern.
 
NashBuff said:
I was in DC for college and it was a nice thing to have. You could make an argument for Redskins-Ravens-Terps since Baltimore isn't that far from DC and is accessible by the MARC.

Chicago has a huge Illini fanbase there in addition to the Da Bears and Wildcats.

Atlanta is a good choice and UGA isn't that far from Atlanta as well.

Houston has the Texans and UH & Rice. The Saints and Tulane in NO.

Nashville has the Titans and Vandy (and SEC football).
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DC is MUCH more of a UVA/VT/UMD/PSU town (etc. etc.) than it is by any definition a "Terp" town.
 
Alfred91 said:
The Pac doesn't have very good NFL/college cities, really.

Seattle is good. Phoenix/Tempe is awful. The Bay Area is okay when the teams are okay, but as you said, that Stanford CCG was an embarrassment.

As far as Denver/Boulder goes, I don't know. CU fans are underrated, and Broncos fans are Broncos fans, but it seems like there is a lot of apathy among the Broncos fanbase toward anything but the Broncos. Denver is just a pro football town and always has been. Also, it seems like many a Buff fan could care less about the Broncos. Buff/Bronco fans are probably only a certain percentage of Buff fans, and a small fraction of Broncos fans.

The wife is from Wisconsin, and it always amazes me how everyone there is both a Packer fan and a Badger fan. Makes me very jealous, to be honest.
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It's true, at CU and since, the biggest CU fans were all out of staters, while virtually all the instaters attended games to party but otherwise didn't give two ****s about the Buffs. I have always given them a hard time but there isn't much I can do to make them any more than the average fair-weather Buffs fan. I guess the team just needs to win.
 
Alfred91 said:
The Pac doesn't have very good NFL/college cities, really.

Seattle is good. Phoenix/Tempe is awful. The Bay Area is okay when the teams are okay, but as you said, that Stanford CCG was an embarrassment.

As far as Denver/Boulder goes, I don't know. CU fans are underrated, and Broncos fans are Broncos fans, but it seems like there is a lot of apathy among the Broncos fanbase toward anything but the Broncos. Denver is just a pro football town and always has been. Also, it seems like many a Buff fan could care less about the Broncos. Buff/Bronco fans are probably only a certain percentage of Buff fans, and a small fraction of Broncos fans.

The wife is from Wisconsin, and it always amazes me how everyone there is both a Packer fan and a Badger fan. Makes me very jealous, to be honest.
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It's true, at CU and since, the biggest CU fans were all out of staters, while virtually all the instaters attended games to party but otherwise didn't give two ****s about the Buffs. I have always given them a hard time but there isn't much I can do to make them any more than the average fair-weather Buffs fan. I guess the team just needs to win.

I wouldn't be surprised to find the a majority or at least higher than normal percentage of AllBuffers were originally out of state.
 
You can't beat Los Angeles. You got USC rocking and UCLA playing well and then mix in the Rams and Raiders.

signed the 80s.
 
Seattle is probably the only NFL city where the local college team based in that same city does very well. For all the other NFL cities where a BCS team resides the atmosphere is subpar:

Pittsburgh (Pitt)
Miami (The U)
Atlanta (GT)
Cincinnati (Cincy)
Washington, DC (MD)
Boston (BC)

Note: I wasn't counting NFL cities where the college team was outside the immediate metro area (Denver, Detroit, New Orleans, etc.)
 
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