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"Black Out" the Jayhawks

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Needed a new thread because I was tired of discussing the lambs.


Can't wait to see you all up at The Keg for this one.

1:15pm Tipoff 12/7
Doors open at 12:15

For those unlucky enough to not have tickets already, stubhub prices have dropped significantly. Quite a few tickets on stubhub from $80-$200. KU fans are going to be snatching those up soon I think. Game is also going to be on ESPN2, thankfully yesterday was our only game of the year not on a traditional TV feed.

I have had this game circled ever since I found out they were making the return trip to Boulder.

Would love to see some stats and game info from our basketball gurus
 
Just get them really drunk?
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Needed a new thread because I was tired of discussing the lambs.


Can't wait to see you all up at The Keg for this one.

1:15pm Tipoff 12/7
Doors open at 12:15

For those unlucky enough to not have tickets already, stubhub prices have dropped significantly. Quite a few tickets on stubhub from $80-$200. KU fans are going to be snatching those up soon I think. Game is also going to be on ESPN2, thankfully yesterday was our only game of the year not on a traditional TV feed.

I have had this game circled ever since I found out they were making the return trip to Boulder.

Would love to see some stats and game info from our basketball gurus

Hoping JG has some info, but a quick glance of the KU numbers makes me think this isn't as bad of a matchup as I feared. Don't get me wrong, we're dramatically behind on talent, and odds are we lose, but this isn't a horrible matchup for us. With the home crowd, if the team brings their A game...
 
Many KU fans seem convinced they will be able to get a below face value ticket a few hours before tip, because the cold will keep fans away. Going to be quite the shock, I imagine.
 
Hoping JG has some info, but a quick glance of the KU numbers makes me think this isn't as bad of a matchup as I feared. Don't get me wrong, we're dramatically behind on talent, and odds are we lose, but this isn't a horrible matchup for us. With the home crowd, if the team brings their A game...

I think the game's a coin flip.

Last time KU came to Boulder was a dogfight.

2010 game went to OT, before the Buffs lost by 6.

2011 game on a "neutral" court in Kansas City was a 83-90 game final.

I wouldn't give us much of a chance on their court, but at the Keg I see this as a pick 'em.
 
I agree with nik. The only bad thing about this game is that KU just got beat (by NOVA) and They could come in angry and feeling like they had something to prove.
Then again, they didnt play UTEP well either, so we could have a chance + home crowd and not allen fieldhouse west like it usually is this is going to be (another) battle
 
Wiggins has had a couple bad games in a row but he's getting underrated by all the same Harrison Barnes critics. "Oh now that he isn't abusing Iowan (Canadian) high schoolers, he's not the player everyone made him out to be." Self forces that inside out game and I think it can tend to deflate the impressive stats that everyone looks for. Wiggins still looks amazing running the break.

One thing that immediately looks good to me is that for the first time since I can remember, KU turns the ball over as much as us, and that's a no-no against us. Bill Self is definitely content with taking the shot clock down and taking good shots and slowing down our transition game, but if we force 16 TOs, we can get the easy points to stay comfortable. They have stupid depth but our depth looks good and our freshman look ready to play, especially at home.

Embiid is a monster but he's still so raw. He'll kill us if he's out on the court, but the altitude + hopefully Dinwiddie and Scott forcing him into foul trouble could take him out of the game for long stretches and really open up that paint for us. Ellis would have scared me in the past but with our frontcourt strength and depth, I think we can handle him.

Ultimately, KU is obviously the favorite. I think they get up quickly on us, they have a good offense, a good defense, and are well coached. We figure it out, hit some shots for once, and fight through it, we will be okay. Booker PLZ.
 
Wiggins has had a couple bad games in a row but he's getting underrated by all the same Harrison Barnes critics. "Oh now that he isn't abusing Iowan (Canadian) high schoolers, he's not the player everyone made him out to be." Self forces that inside out game and I think it can tend to deflate the impressive stats that everyone looks for. Wiggins still looks amazing running the break.
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Wiggins had bronchitis during the battle for Atlantis
 
Hoping JG has some info, but a quick glance of the KU numbers makes me think this isn't as bad of a matchup as I feared. Don't get me wrong, we're dramatically behind on talent, and odds are we lose, but this isn't a horrible matchup for us. With the home crowd, if the team brings their A game...

I'm working on something for this, I'll have it up tomorrow.
 
geez you guys are acting like this game is our super bowl.

Between this and Arizona games, this is pretty big. Kansas pretty much beat us all the time in the Big12, would be nice for some revenge. I know I have been looking forward to it for a few years


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Kind of is in terms of the non-conference. Win this and we'd pretty much punch our Dance ticket.

Am I crazy for thinking Okie Light is the more impressive win of the two if it happens? The teams are pretty close to even (although, personally, I think Okie might be a touch better right now) and it's a neutral site game whereas this one is at home.
 
Not sure. KU is RPI #2. Okie Lite is in the teens.

Maybe we should just win both games.
 
Am I crazy for thinking Okie Light is the more impressive win of the two if it happens? The teams are pretty close to even (although, personally, I think Okie might be a touch better right now) and it's a neutral site game whereas this one is at home.

Possibly if your looking purely at a ticket to the dance (although I dont think that will be much of a issue this year), but beating KU at home will register a lot higher on my enjoyability scale.
 
My thoughts around the numbers:

Josh Scott and Wes Gordon are going to have their work cut-out as interior defense is going to be key in this game. Kansas shoots 53.5% of their shots at the rim (7[SUP]th[/SUP] best in the NCAA), that is over 15% higher than the NCAA average of 38.3%. When you think of a team that shoots and scores a lot at the rim you’d think that’d equate to a team that gets a lot of transition buckets. But that isn’t Kansas, only 25.5% of their initial FGA come in transition, so that means that Kansas is getting a lot of good looks at the rim within their half-court offense, which means that the guards are going to have to stop dribble penetration and interior defense is going to have to be on point.

KU doesn’t exactly shoot lights out, their 3pt and FT% are both well below average. They do get to the line at a very good rate but only convert on 67.3% of their FT’s. In their lone loss of the year to eventual Battle of Atlantis champion Villanova, KU was only able to convert on 2 of 11 three-point shots and shot 60% from the FT line going 15-25. This seems to be the blue print to beat KU, protect the paint, make them shoot three’s and hope they continue their poor free throw shooting.

I’ve talked about the value of a blocked shot before and I’m going to again. KU blocks a lot of shots, they block 15.3% of shots (27[SUP]th[/SUP] best) but only 52.6% of those blocks result in a change in possession, as KU’s opponents grab 47.4% of the offensive rebounds after a block. There is obviously the intimidation factor to consider that’s clearly unquantifiable, but CU only blocks 9.8% of shots, but 63.3% of those blocks result in a change of possession. As anyone knows that watched the CSU game the other night, Wes and Josh do a good job of blocking a shot and actually recovering it and changing the possession as a result. This is going to be something to watch, will KU’s inevitable blocks result in a change of possession or just a guy flexing his muscles trying to look tough?

Transition, transition, transition. Once again I’m going to talk about something I frequently talk about. Transition play is the key factor in CU’s success and it’s one of the reasons CU beat CSU. Mayor went into beast mode attacking in transition until somebody stopped him. He went 4-4 in transition making two at the rim, one mid-range J and one three. I like this Mayor, he’s one I can get behind, I understand why he wants to show that he can get the ball to the right guys and be that “true” point guard. We all get that you can drive and get the defense to collapse on you and you have the ability to find the open outside shooter, you’ve proven that time and time again, but this isn’t the NBA. CU doesn’t have multiple guys that can shoot 40+% from three. CU needs you to be attack mode Spencer. So what if you get a couple swatted away, good things happen when you take it to the rack and it all begins with transition offense. Kansas does a good job of limiting transition opportunities, they only allow opponents to take 19.4% of their initial field goal attempts in transition while CU averages 36.9% (18[SUP]th[/SUP] best) of their initial field goal attempts to come in transition. So this is going to key, Spencer, Jaron and Ski need to get out in transition and try to convert in transition because Kansas has one of the best overall defensive efficiencies in the country.

A few other points:
The freshman need to show up, Hopkins showed up in crunch time, but CU can’t rely on them not showing up for 35 minutes against a team like Kansas
This is Kansas’ first true road game; they’ve played a few neutral court games but they haven’t been in hostile territory……yet
 
Thanks JG. Your point on transition is well taken. I wonder if we see Tad be a little more aggressive extending the pressure to get some transition shots or if he plays it tight to the vest, believing a press leaves us too vulnerable in the open floor against their athletes?

In addition to the frosh not playing empty minutes, we need either XJ or Ski to play well offensively. Without looking it up, it seems XJ was on in all of our big home wins last year, excluding CSU.
 
In addition to the frosh not playing empty minutes, we need either XJ or Ski to play well offensively. Without looking it up, it seems XJ was on in all of our big home wins last year, excluding CSU.

XJ's defensive performance is going to be huge too, as he will likely be matched up on Wiggins. The kid obviously loves the big stage so I bet he will perform well...plus he never played Wiggins in high school so he owes him a posterizer.

I understand the importance of Ski taking and making a big shot when the offense is in a lull, but hoping to see him get to the rack and share the ball a little more to get Jelly and XJ more touches.
 
In addition to the frosh not playing empty minutes, we need XJ AND Ski to play well offensively. Without looking it up, it seems XJ was on in all of our big home wins last year, excluding CSU.

FTFY

and seriously, XJ came up huge in a lot of our big wins (zona, oregon, cal) at home last year.
I think he stayed back at CSU just because everyone wanted to make sure the mayor got the 30 he promised the lambs.
 
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