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Blind Resume Comparison

Which team should get the better tourney seed?

  • Team 1

    Votes: 2 4.1%

  • Team 2

    Votes: 47 95.9%
  • Total voters
    49
Buffnik

Buffnik

Real name isn't Nik
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Junta Member
Team 1
Team 2
D1 Record
20-11
19-12
Conf Record (P5)
9-9
10-8
vs Top 25
1-8
1-5
vs Top 50
5-10
4-9
vs Top 100
7-11
8-11
Losses vs 101+
1
1
Losses vs 201+
0
0
Non-Conference SOS
182
87
Overall SOS
52
27
RPI
61
57

Are these tournament teams?

Would you seed Team 1 or Team 2 higher?
 
Same resume, but one had a man's name and one had a woman's name. Man's name is selected for the dance. Woman's name stays home.

Semper Gumby
 
Lunardi's got Team 1 as an 8-seed and Team 2 missing the Dance.
 
I figured it out, but aik is right: these are both NIT resumes. If team one makes it... wow. I didn't realize how bad their resume is. Didn't even win a single game in their tournament. Team 2 didn't either.
 
Buffnik said:
Lunardi's got Team 1 as an 8-seed and Team 2 missing the Dance.
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That's foul. Nearly identical records but Team 2 scheduled better. Granted, they didn't play a lot of top teams but they still got some competition.

I think the mythical 20 win line sways people so much versus a team with a 1 in front of their win total, even in this case where the difference is just one more win.
 
Daaah said:
The conference record stat is not relevant if we don't know the conference.
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Team 1 plays in the #2 RPI Conference.
Team 2 plays in the #3 RPI Conference.

To give an idea of relative conference strength:

#1 Conference RPI = 0.5838
#2 Conference RPI = 0.5764
#3 Conference RPI = 0.5714
#4 Conference RPI = 0.5671

Not much deviation.
 
Buffnik said:
Team 1
Team 2
D1 Record
20-11
19-12
Conf Record (P5)
9-9
10-8
vs Top 25
1-8
1-5
vs Top 50
5-10
4-9
vs Top 100
7-11
8-11
Losses vs 101+
1
1
Losses vs 201+
0
0
Non-Conference SOS
182
87
Overall SOS
52
27
RPI
61
57

Are these tournament teams?

Would you seed Team 1 or Team 2 higher?
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Might put in Team 2 because of SOS. Team 1 is NIT all the way.

I will now read the rest of the thread to see how stupid I just made myself look.
 
In many years, neither of those teams would be tournament teams. This year, you'd think, team 2 probably has a decent chance to get in.
 
rolandftw said:
http://www.rpiforecast.com/live-rpi.html

Weird there is such a big difference between them. I think yours more closely jive with cbssports and espn tho, so they are probably correct. My bad.

Has Lunardi done an update since Iowa's loss?
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I don't know. I didn't look at it this morning and his bracket isn't time stamped. So I don't know whether that's reflecting today's adjustments or not. Probably not, since there are only a handful of up or down arrows.
 
rolandftw said:
Has Lunardi done an update since Iowa's loss?
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He's in his situation room having a panic attack.

I do not envy those selecting and seeding this weekend. The middle of the pack teams from the major conferences are a jumbled mess of parity. Some schools are going to get in while their peers are going to be pissed wondering why those guys did and they did not.
 
That was fun, thanks nik. That does a great job showing just how "off" the "experts" can be.
 
Buffnik said:
I don't know. I didn't look at it this morning and his bracket isn't time stamped. So I don't know whether that's reflecting today's adjustments or not. Probably not, since there are only a handful of up or down arrows.
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Lunardi's last update came out in early evening at the latest. Iowa's game had definitely not gone final yet. Palm just released an update after midnight eastern (all games finished except Stanford/ASU) that has Iowa down to a 10 seed and CU up to an 8.
 
aik said:
He's in his situation room having a panic attack.

I do not envy those selecting and seeding this weekend. The middle of the pack teams from the major conferences are a jumbled mess of parity. Some schools are going to get in while their peers are going to be pissed wondering why those guys did and they did not.
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Should just give every B1G team a bid, IMO.
 
Daaah said:
The conference record stat is not relevant if we don't know the conference.
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This, and to take it further you need to look at who they beat and lost to in their respective conferences. With the unbalanced conference schedules these days a team can be 10-8 in a major conference but have no good wins in those 10.

At face value I would agree with some of the others in that neither of these looks like a tournament-worthy resume, but then again you can't really say that without stacking them up against the other bubble teams out there. It's all relative.
 
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