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Boyle comments on the schedule - interesting stuff

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Also some tidbits about how guys look after the summer..

http://www.buffzone.com/buffzonetop...ketball-buffs-look-good-after-summer-workouts
Boyle said there have been some elite teams wanting to schedule a 2-for-1 with the Buffs, meaning that CU would play that team twice on the road for one game in Boulder. That's a quick end to the conversation for Boyle.

"It ain't going to happen, bottom line. Not as long as I'm the head coach," Boyle said. "We're not going to sell out to anybody. As the head coach at Colorado, the last thing I'm going to do is cheapen our brand and sell out to somebody because we think they're superior to us. We feel like we can compete with anybody in the country and we have to act that way."
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For just the second time in program history, the Buffs will play four of the five other Division I teams from the Front Range: Air Force, Colorado State, Northern Colorado and Wyoming. The one team they won't play this year is Denver.The only other time the Buffs played at least four of those teams was in 2006-07, when they played all five.
Boyle said that one reason CU isn't playing DU is that the Pioneers run the same Princeton-style offense that Air Force runs. He said the non-conference slate is designed to prepare the Buffs for the Pac-12 conference schedule, and there are no Princeton-style teams in the Pac-12, so, "I don't necessarily want to play two Princeton-style teams."
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:congrats: Boyle is a smart man.
 
**** ya. Love that he isn't going to sell out to those programs. Come play us in boulder you pansies or we will find someone else.
 
This would be a good time for Tad to tell Eustachy we'll be doing a 2 for 1 when our current home and home is over or suck it.
 
That attitude is why we have risen like we have under Boyle....he fully expects CU to be in with the big boys from now on....just another reason to have a man crush on Boyle!!!!
 
If I'm the coach of a P5 program, there's no way in hell I'm scheduling CU right now unless it's a neutral site tv event like Baylor and Okie Lite did last year. It's a loss on the road and no better than a coin flip at home. And for what? I can get the RPI against easier opponents and CU doesn't carry the cache to drive ratings to make it a big game of the week. Throw in the travel to a place where there's no one else I'm interested in scheduling and it just doesn't make sense.

The only P5 programs it does make sense for are the ones in the bottom half that can make a "statement" with a win, grab a nice payday, and get their kids great experience as you're trying to build the program.

CU is simply not a good risk/reward for a Top 40 team at the moment.
 
Buffnik said:
If I'm the coach of a P5 program, there's no way in hell I'm scheduling CU right now unless it's a neutral site tv event like Baylor and Okie Lite did last year. It's a loss on the road and no better than a coin flip at home. And for what? I can get the RPI against easier opponents and CU doesn't carry the cache to drive ratings to make it a big game of the week. Throw in the travel to a place where there's no one else I'm interested in scheduling and it just doesn't make sense.

The only P5 programs it does make sense for are the ones in the bottom half that can make a "statement" with a win, grab a nice payday, and get their kids great experience as you're trying to build the program.

CU is simply not a good risk/reward for a Top 40 team at the moment.
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We might have to hitch our home and home wagon to the big mid major programs....Gonzaga, Wichita State, BYU
 
Buffnik said:
If I'm the coach of a P5 program, there's no way in hell I'm scheduling CU right now unless it's a neutral site tv event like Baylor and Okie Lite did last year. It's a loss on the road and no better than a coin flip at home. And for what? I can get the RPI against easier opponents and CU doesn't carry the cache to drive ratings to make it a big game of the week. Throw in the travel to a place where there's no one else I'm interested in scheduling and it just doesn't make sense.

The only P5 programs it does make sense for are the ones in the bottom half that can make a "statement" with a win, grab a nice payday, and get their kids great experience as you're trying to build the program.

CU is simply not a good risk/reward for a Top 40 team at the moment.
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This - scheduling is really tough and CU with a good HCA with the altitude and not the easiest place to get to doesn't make it a destination teams are running to sign up to play at.
 
We havent been a good risk/reward proposition for about 3 years. Just ask KU.

We will probably have 2-3 more seasons of "difficult" scheduling before people will realize we are here to stay. Hopefully it will get easier after that for the home/home.
 
Flatirons2 said:
^^^Worked for FB it'll work for B-ball...to be the best...play the best...really simple
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But then the athletic department forgot how that worked for CU and started doing 2-for-1 and 1 with no return so other universities think that is the CU way...Boyle is saying hell no and hopefully MMac and George will take the entire department that way
 
Personally, I don't see the difference between scheduling Baylor in what was essentially a road game (Dallas, right?), and scheduling a 2 for 1 against a Blue Blood like Kentucky
 
rolandftw said:
Personally, I don't see the difference between scheduling Baylor in what was essentially a road game (Dallas, right?), and scheduling a 2 for 1 against a Blue Blood like Kentucky
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It is a perception thing. Do you want to be seen as a perennial tourney team who can beat the big boys on a neutral court or a team that schedules like a bottom feeding mid major?
 
Good to have swagger on a couple of teams. Looking forward to Bball season. In Tad we trust
 
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tante said:
It is a perception thing. Do you want to be seen as a perennial tourney team who can beat the big boys on a neutral court or a team that schedules like a bottom feeding mid major?
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I don't think bottom feeding mid majors normally get a 2 for 1 against a team like Kentucky. In the past five years, their only true OOC road games have been Notre Dame, Louisville, North Carolina, Indiana, and Portland. Portland's really the only anomaly.

I generally agree with most of what Tad said, with the exception of him scheduling Baylor in Dallas. I know technically it was a neutral site game, but CU was definitely at a disadvantage for that game. Considering how lame Baylor's fans are, probably not much of one...

Once you regularly schedule 2 for 1's, then the expectation will be that is what you can get from CU, so Tad is right to not do it
 
tante said:
It is a perception thing. Do you want to be seen as a perennial tourney team who can beat the big boys on a neutral court or a team that schedules like a bottom feeding mid major?
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Everything that Tad says and does is completely right. So lucky to have this guy at CU. Double down and renovate the CEC and you'll see basketball explode.
 
rosstr said:
Everything that Tad says and does is completely right. So lucky to have this guy at CU. Double down and renovate the CEC and you'll see basketball explode.
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Yes we should absolutely stop investing in our highest revenue generating sport. Fantastic idea. Can't ignore basketball, but football needs to get corrected and the facilities need to be done first, way too much lost revenue by failing to invest in football.
 
'Tini said:
Yes we should absolutely stop investing in our highest revenue generating sport. Fantastic idea. Can't ignore basketball, but football needs to get corrected and the facilities need to be done first, way too much lost revenue by failing to invest in football.
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JFC. He didn't say anything about stopping funding football.
 
'Tini said:
He's talked about just doing basketball since our football program is dead before, assumed he was on the same thought process with that post
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Yeah. rosstr has been a little bit over-the-top calling for all future funding to go to basketball with football getting nothing until it shows a pulse.
 
I'm good with this, even though I'd love to get another blue blood in Boulder. The neutral site games serve a bigger purpose anyway.
 
Buffnik said:
Yeah. rosstr has been a little bit over-the-top calling for all future funding to go to basketball with football getting nothing until it shows a pulse.
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Well at this point, we're pot committed in football. Which is obviously the right thing to do given the current landscape. However, I don't know if CU understands the cross roads it is at in terms of basketball. The opportunity is there to continue to invest and give Tad more resources to turn CU into a top 15 program. A lack of foresight has plagued CU for 30 years and it'd be nice to not neglect the thing that we DO have going for us.
 
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'Tini said:
Yes we should absolutely stop investing in our highest revenue generating sport. Fantastic idea. Can't ignore basketball, but football needs to get corrected and the facilities need to be done first, way too much lost revenue by failing to invest in football.
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No mention of football in the OP. Basketball board. Your agenda can be your agenda.
 
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