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Butch Jones: 2012 Colorado Coaching search profile

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Born: January 17th, 1968 Saugatuck, MI

Alma Mater: Ferris State 1989

COACHING EXPERIENCE

Year School, Position
1987-89 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, intern
1990-92 Rutgers, graduate assistant
1993-94 Wilkes University, offensive coordinator
1995 Ferris State, running backs
1996-97 Ferris State, offensive coordinator
1998 Central Michigan, tight ends
1999 Central Michigan, wide receivers
2000 Central Michigan, running backs
2001-03 Central Michigan, offensive coordinator
2004 Central Michigan, running backs
2005-06 West Virginia, wide receivers
2007-09 Central Michigan, head coach
2010-present Cincinnati, head coach

CHAMPIONSHIPS
Year School, Championship
2011 Cincinnati, BIG EAST Conference
2009 Central Michigan, Mid-American Conference
2007 Central Michigan, Mid-American Conference
2005 BIG EAST Conference

CAREER RECORD
Year School Title Record
2007 Central Michigan Head Coach 8-6
2008 Central Michigan Head Coach 8-5
2009 Central Michigan Head Coach 11-2
2010 Cincinnati Head Coach 4-8
2011 Cincinnati Head Coach 10-3
CAREER TOTALS 41-24

Bio

Central Michigan

Jones returned to Central Michigan as head coach in 2007. In his first year he posted an 8–5 overall record and a 7–1 conference record. Jones ended two streaks that had haunted his predecessors. On September 29, 2007, CMU beat Northern Illinois University, which was the first CMU victory over Northern Illinois going back to 1998 (nine games). On November 6, 2007, CMU beat its chief rival, Western Michigan University, at its home field of Waldo Stadium for the first since 1993. He guided CMU to the MAC title at Ford Field in Detroit against Miami (Ohio), and led the team to its second consecutive Motor City Bowl. He was only the ninth football coach in Mid-American Conference history to win the championship in his first season. In 2008, a 31–24 loss to Ball State on Nov. 19 derailed the Chippewas' MAC title hopes, but CMU earned a trip to a third consecutive Motor City Bowl. In 2009 he guided the Chippewas to their third MAC Championship in four years after an 8–0 MAC schedule, the first time in school history the Chippewas went undefeated in the MAC. CMU completed its run with a 20–10 win against Ohio in the MAC title game at Ford Field. He left CMU with a 27–13 overall record and 20–3 MAC record. He did not win a bowl game, though his team won the 2009 bowl game against Troy, 44–41.
Cincinnati

On December 16, 2009, Jones was named head coach at the University of Cincinnati.[1] He replaced Brian Kelly, who left to become head coach at Notre Dame.[3] Jones had previously replaced Kelly at Central Michigan.

Jones has led the Bearcats to records of 4-8 in 2010 and 10-3 in 2011, including a Big East championship, a Liberty Bowl victory (31-24 over Vanderbilt), and he was named Big East Coach of the Year. Also in 2011, Cincinnati was the only program to win both its conference championship as well as the league's team academic award.
 
No thanks. Took over a damn good Cincy program after Kelly left...sound familiar?

And what happened in 2004, was he demoted?
 
His resume isn't even close to Hawkins'. Go back and look.

He walked into 2 situations where the program had been winning and already had decent talent. Maybe he's very good, but compared to maybe 10 other names being mentioned, I don't see what sets him apart or gets anyone excited.
 
This could very well be Bohn's guy, especially with this :

Also in 2011, Cincinnati was the only program to win both its conference championship as well as the league's team academic award
 
I'm medium on him. Some good things to point to, but he did kind of ride in the wake of Chip Kelley's success. I am impressed at the defensive stats of his team this year.
 
His DL/Co-DC coach is Steve Stripling (played at CU)... which lends credence to the rumor that whoever it is has Colorado ties
 
Fwiw Jones changed the offense and defense each time after Kelly left, so he didn't really just maintain the program.
 
We all have a healthy level of skepticism regarding the latest rumors but this one seems legit and I can see why Butch would be interested in this-higher pay, much better conference, etc. It is a move up for him. I just never bought that our friend from down the road would be intrigued enough.
 
Butch Jones was at Central Michigan BEFORE Brain Kelly arrived in 2004. You could say that Kelly won with Jones' players since he coached TEs, WRs, and RBs before Kelly arrived in Mount Plesant which probably means he recruited those kids.

Jones has coordinator exprience that Hawkins and Embree lacked.
 
We all have a healthy level of skepticism regarding the latest rumors but this one seems legit and I can see why Butch would be interested in this-higher pay, much better conference, etc. It is a move up for him. I just never bought that our friend from down the road would be intrigued enough.

Cinncinnati could be left behind with UConn in the Big East and that could have an impact on recruiting so he could be looking at a way out of the Big East.
 
Butch Jones was at Central Michigan BEFORE Brain Kelly arrived in 2004. You could say that Kelly won with Jones' players since he coached TEs, WRs, and RBs before Kelly arrived in Mount Plesant which probably means he recruited those kids.

Jones has coordinator exprience that Hawkins and Embree lacked.

Central Michigan stunk before Kelly showed up, so that speaks more to Kelly winning with marginal talent than winning with the "talent" brought in by a position coach. Also Kelly did not retain Jones on the Chippewa staff, so what does that tell you?
 
Butch Jones was at Central Michigan BEFORE Brain Kelly arrived in 2004. You could say that Kelly won with Jones' players since he coached TEs, WRs, and RBs before Kelly arrived in Mount Plesant which probably means he recruited those kids.

Jones has coordinator exprience that Hawkins and Embree lacked.

Come on man, even you do not believe what you typed here.
 
one other point: Cinci's AD has picked Dantonio, Kelly, and now Jones. I sort of trust his eye. Can we hire the AD? :lol:
 
Central Michigan stunk before Kelly showed up, so that speaks more to Kelly winning with marginal talent than winning with the "talent" brought in by a position coach. Also Kelly did not retain Jones on the Chippewa staff, so what does that tell you?

Brain Kelly was at CMU in 2004 and Butch Jones was at CMU in 2004. When new coaches come in, they usually bring in their own coordinators and the former coordinators usually are let go. Jones didn't go to WVU until the 2005 season. Would a football program like WVU take in a failed coach from a low tier MAC team?

Jones still has a very good resume...he learned under Kelly and Rich Rod.
 
Brain Kelly was at CMU in 2004 and Butch Jones was at CMU in 2004. When new coaches come in, they usually bring in their own coordinators and the former coordinators usually are let go. Jones didn't go to WVU until the 2005 season. Would a football program like WVU take in a failed coach from a low tier MAC team?

Jones still has a very good resume...he learned under Kelly and Rich Rod.

He became the WR coach at WVU. That's not a particularly compelling argument in his favor.
 
He became the WR coach at WVU. That's not a particularly compelling argument in his favor.

That surely didn't hurt at all. Nothing wrong with being a MAC coordinator and then taking a step down to learn how things are done at strong football schools such as WVU. And now Rich Rod just took Arizona to a bowl game.
 
Recruiting? His current class is ranked #50, and doesn't seem much better than ours. Last years class finished ranked #50. The year before that they were #49.

That recruiting is a red flag to me
 
So he wins with less talent.

Gotta think recruiting at CU will be much easier if he hires good assistants with ties to the region and we could probably lock down Colorado if he hires Stitt.

And fwiw, Kelly's classes at Cincinnati were very similar.
 
Recruiting? His current class is ranked #50, and doesn't seem much better than ours. Last years class finished ranked #50. The year before that they were #49.

That recruiting is a red flag to me
I get that, but apparently his classes were on par with Kelly's. These guys can actually coach up 2-3* guys. Plus, I'd think it's harder to recruit for Cinci because they have to compete with Michigan, OSU, Penn State and some SEC teams coming north to poach some good ones.
 
I get that, but apparently his classes were on par with Kelly's. These guys can actually coach up 2-3* guys. Plus, I'd think it's harder to recruit for Cinci because they have to compete with Michigan, OSU, Penn State and some SEC teams coming north to poach some good ones.

You're right, it will probably be easier for them to recruit with USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford and Oregon for the Cali kids.
 
Recruiting? His current class is ranked #50, and doesn't seem much better than ours. Last years class finished ranked #50. The year before that they were #49.

That recruiting is a red flag to me
You got this wrong, mister. He's recruiting to CINCI!
Cincinatti Recruiting since 2007 according to rivals:
2007: 89
2008: 67
2009: 60
2010: 59
2011: 49
2012: 50
2013: (so far) 50

Dude. he's better than BK. :lol:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/teamrank/2012/all/all
 
Continue to downplay recruiting concerns. CU can be the outlier! Yes!
Yes, that's what I'm doing. Or not. He needs to recruit. I'm just saying the institution does limit what you can recruit. It appears he is better than his predecessors at Cinci in recruiting.
 
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