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Chris Copeland

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Anyone else following this?

Rumor is hes gonna make the Knicks squad, just put up 16 off the bench last night.
Pretty amazing hes still playing
 
So awesome! One of my favorite Buffs and a true badass for playing a whole season with a bullet in his back.
 
He was still kind of a baby when he graduated, still had room to fill out and lots of game to develop. Go Cope!
 
Awesome. How many ex-Buffs in the NBA now? Four? Five? Is Chauncey still playing?
 
4 -Burks and Copeland are on active rosters. Higgins looks to have made the Bobcats roster, Chauncey is still rehabbing but should be playing for the clippers in the next month. Carlon was waived by the Warriors last week.
 
Front page of Yahoo fantasy. Looks like they see him as a sleeper this year. Congrats Cope! Hard work is paying off for you homie.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/waiver...juries.html;_ylt=Ahzzi9VqNFhUoa97TkPANzS5bZ8u

The sleeper option is Chris Copeland. A 28-year old rookie that has played in Europe for the last five seasons, Copeland was the Knicks' leading scorer for much of the preseason. He's an active defender and has the ability to play both forward spots. He's not a good rebounder, which could hurt his chances of winning a regular role, but don't be surprised if he gets significant minutes while Stoudemire and Camby are on the mend.
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He made his first start in place of Carmelo last night. He went 4-5 from the field for 11 points in 18 mins.
Burks is averaging less than 3 pts/game.
Billups remains to be held together with duct tape. He came back from his achilles only to injure his other foot
 
sliderNcider said:
He made his first start in place of Carmelo last night. He went 4-5 from the field for 11 points in 18 mins.
Burks is averaging less than 3 pts/game.
Billups remains to be held together with duct tape. He came back from his achilles only to injure his other foot
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As far as I can tell, Burks doesn't even play in over 50% of their games, and when he does get in, we're talking 3 minutes here, 8 minutes there. It has not been the start to his career that we all hoped for. He's still only 21, he's not a lost cause, but he's going to have to find a way to start to get some minutes and produce over the next 1-2 seasons or things are going to be bleak.

The Chris Copeland story is very much the exception to the rule, which is what makes it so awesome. Major kudos to him. The NBA Development League is not a "Development" league. The best thing he did was probably get out of the D-League and go up his game in some quality Euro leagues. I'm a major fan, and he's a Virginia kid so he's always been a favorite. Hermitage High School (regularly churns out top football players) in Henrico, VA. We lucked out with the ACC schools not giving much interest. I think he chose CU over Virginia Tech and Richmond. Richmond hadn't upped their program to the quality A-10 squad they are today (they were in the process of switching from the Colonial) and Virginia Tech had just joined the Big East for basketball, coming from the A-10, and they were a complete doormat with poor basketball facilities (and they still pretty much are).
 
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Who would've thought that in 2012 Cope would be CU's best NBA player? I loved watching him play, but his surge onto the Knicks this season has shocked the hell out of me. Kudos to Cope; hard work does pay off!

also

**** Utah! #FreeAlec!
 
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RumblinBuff said:
Who would've thought that in 2012 Cope would be CU's best NBA player? I loved watching him play, but his surge onto the Knicks this season has shocked the hell out of me. Kudos to Cope; hard work does pay off!

also

**** Utah! #FreeAlec!
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Still think Burks left a year early for his skill level at the time. Another year of Tad and the weight room, would have done him good.
 
Buffenuf said:
Still think Burks left a year early for his skill level at the time. Another year of Tad and the weight room, would have done him good.
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For his development, probably. For generational financial security, nope. He wouldn't have been a lottery pick in the following draft.

I was good with him leaving. Unfortunately, he was drafted by an organization that traditionally does not like to give young guys playing time.
 
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Still think Burks left a year early for his skill level at the time. Another year of Tad and the weight room, would have done him good.
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Money likely wouldn't have been there. He left in a year when the big names were staying in college due to the lockout. Would probably have been a better player, but the pay check was the biggest he was going to get in all likelyhood
 
Buffnik said:
For his development, probably. For generational financial security, nope. He wouldn't have been a lottery pick in the following draft.

I was good with him leaving. Unfortunately, he was drafted by an organization that traditionally does not like to give young guys playing time.
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They're giving minutes to Hayward, Favors, and Kanter. All young, and they deserve minutes. Kanter would have more minutes if it wasn't for Al Jeff, who's pretty damn good. So for Burks, it's not being young, it's just that he doesn't deserve any minutes over guys like Foye, Mo Williams, and Hayward with the way he's been playing when he's actually on the court.

My friend who's a huge Jazz fan told me he still hasn't developed a jump shot. In Utah's system, if you can't shoot the ball, you won't play much. He's still young so hopefully he just keeps on working his game and improve so he can force his coaches to play him more.
 
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They're giving minutes to Hayward, Favors, and Kanter. All young, and they deserve minutes. Kanter would have more minutes if it wasn't for Al Jeff, who's pretty damn good. So for Burks, it's not being young, it's just that he doesn't deserve any minutes over guys like Foye, Mo Williams, and Hayward with the way he's been playing when he's actually on the court.

My friend who's a huge Jazz fan told me he still hasn't developed a jump shot. In Utah's system, if you can't shoot the ball, you won't play much. He's still young so hopefully he just keeps on working his game and improve so he can force his coaches to play him more.
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Last season, his PER was higher than the vet 2-guards who were playing more minutes than him. I haven't watched any NBA this year, though, so I'm totally ignorant to how they're handling him. Any way, that was the rep Utah always had regarding young players. It was Sloan's culture. Maybe it's changed.
 
Copeland scored 29 points in a loss to the Rockets tonight. Didn't watch the game, but obviously a great stat line!

Far as Burks goes, have only watched a couple Jazz games this year but he seems to have regressed from last year.

This year, only shooting 13.6% from ten feet or more out. Last year, hit 32.4% which wasn't bad for a rookie with basically no training camp.

Would like to think this is related to him trying to do too much, to impress the coaches instead of just letting the game come to him. When a player is on the short leash that he is on in Utah, where one mistake gets him benched the stat line will often go down. I still think he can be a very good player in the league, but he's in a situation that probably isn't best for his development.
 
rolandftw said:
Copeland scored 29 points in a loss to the Rockets tonight. Didn't watch the game, but obviously a great stat line!Far as Burks goes, have only watched a couple Jazz games this year but he seems to have regressed from last year.This year, only shooting 13.6% from ten feet or more out. Last year, hit 32.4% which wasn't bad for a rookie with basically no training camp. Would like to think this is related to him trying to do too much, to impress the coaches instead of just letting the game come to him. When a player is on the short leash that he is on in Utah, where one mistake gets him benched the stat line will often go down. I still think he can be a very good player in the league, but he's in a situation that probably isn't best for his development.
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WOW in regards to Copeland. Incredible! Given our recent woes in producing stellar NFL talent, we're on the verge of having quite a nice collection of Buffs in the NBA with hopefully Burks getting things together, and Dre and Dinwiddie with fantastic potential down the road. Even more impressive considering how much more difficult it is to stick around in the NBA (with even 2nd Round draft picks not being guaranteed ****).

I wish Alec could get out of Utah (or some injuries could give him some opportunity) It concerned me when he was picked there, although at the time I was simply glad he was a lottery pick and last season it seemed like things could break in the right direction for him in coming years as he showed some flashes his rookie year. Unfortunately, even though he's only 21, the situation has become considerably more bleak this year. And in the NBA, with such limited roster spots and wave after wave of young stars entering each year producing fierce competition for limited playing time, he's facing a crucial make or break next 1-2 seasons. Let's cross our fingers for him, he's got to get the consistency going from mid-to-long distance.

Unfortunately, I think Higgins NBA days may be about over, although he could potentially pop back up in a unique situation where things break for him. There will be some opportunities for spots, but obviously being released from such a favorable situation with Rod Higgins in Charlotte is a bad omen. His best bet may be to tear it up in Europe and see if he can't catch a break for a roster spot in the next couple seasons. I haven't kept up with what his plan is, but I'm a major D-League skeptic. I know there's the idea that the D-League, being domestic, gives players increased visibility to NBA programs, but in this era, if you're dominating in Europe, they're going to find you.

Really hope Dre, Dinwiddie, and other future NBA talent we'll be bringing in do not rush things. The Burks situation was unique, he clearly needed another year or two at CU to be fully NBA ready, but in that situation of being a guaranteed lottery pick, he had to jump. Can't fault him for that.
 
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Ty Corbin is just a questionable coach. Burks absolutely deserves minutes and most Jazz fans are upset by his lack of play time, especially considering the lapses in offense their team displays when they have no consistent wing play because their guys struggle to get to the FT line.
 
CVilleBuff said:
Really hope Dre, Dinwiddie, and other future NBA talent we'll be bringing in do not rush things. The Burks situation was unique, he clearly needed another year or two at CU to be fully NBA ready, but in that situation of being a guaranteed lottery pick, he had to jump. Can't fault him for that.
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Yeah, I don't blame Burks at all for leaving. I do think had he stayed, he could have been a top 5 pick. Maybe I'm overrating Alec, but I don't think he needed a weak draft to go in the lotto. At the same time, that's him delaying his NBA career a year or two, and that's not easy to do if you're guaranteed millions.

nbadraft.net has dinwiddie in the lotto now, so that might end up being a similar choice for him as it was for Alec. I like Andre's game but I also think another year of seasoning would help him out a lot. Still, a weak draft, so if someone promises him to go in the first round, hard to say no. You just don't want it to be like Quincy Miller's situation where he goes thinking he's going to be a first rounder, and yet slips into the second round.

Too bad with Higgins but much like Carlon Brown, I'm hoping they both can get a good deal overseas and continue to get better as players. Won't be easy, but I think they have a shot to get back in the league. And if not, well, nothing wrong at all with playing overseas and making a great living that way. Lot of players get into coaching and scouting that way too.
 
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Yeah, I don't blame Burks at all for leaving. I do think had he stayed, he could have been a top 5 pick. Maybe I'm overrating Alec, but I don't think he needed a weak draft to go in the lotto. At the same time, that's him delaying his NBA career a year or two, and that's not easy to do if you're guaranteed millions.

nbadraft.net has dinwiddie in the lotto now, so that might end up being a similar choice for him as it was for Alec. I like Andre's game but I also think another year of seasoning would help him out a lot. Still, a weak draft, so if someone promises him to go in the first round, hard to say no. You just don't want it to be like Quincy Miller's situation where he goes thinking he's going to be a first rounder, and yet slips into the second round.

Too bad with Higgins but much like Carlon Brown, I'm hoping they both can get a good deal overseas and continue to get better as players. Won't be easy, but I think they have a shot to get back in the league. And if not, well, nothing wrong at all with playing overseas and making a great living that way. Lot of players get into coaching and scouting that way too.
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I strongly believe Andre needs to stay another season. We'll see what happens down the stretch here, but I really think he needs his final year.
 
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