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Cliff Harris suspended again

My favorite quote from the article, I think.

Harris' family paid the $1,620 in fines for the citations. The university compliance office was looking into whether NCAA rules were broken when the school employee allowed him to use the rental car.
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O.J. seeks wife's killer...

How's that investigation coming along? They had to be hoping that whole thing would blow over. Not so much now. And why is the University Compliance office looking into it...shouldn't that be for someone else to investigate?
 
with the severe punishment handed down by Kelly I'm just shocked that Cliff has not already learned his lesson.
 
GoBuffs08 said:
with the severe punishment handed down by Kelly I'm just shocked that Cliff has not already learned his lesson.
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Well if losing millions of dollars is not harsh punishment I don't know what is lol. The odd thing about this situations is he thinks he is only hurting himself, but in reality he is hurting the team. I think he should be banned from all football activities, but given the opportunity to remain on scholarship and finish up his degree. I think if the University kicking him to the curb could cause him to spiral into a worse situation.
 
CanadianDuck said:
Well if losing millions of dollars is not harsh punishment I don't know what is lol. The odd thing about this situations is he thinks he is only hurting himself, but in reality he is hurting the team. I think he should be banned from all football activities, but given the opportunity to remain on scholarship and finish up his degree. I think if the University kicking him to the curb could cause him to spiral into a worse situation.
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No offense CD, but this is a monumentally stupid suggestion. Allow the kid to get a free ride education for screwing up? I am all for a player getting to finish their scholarship due to injury, extenuating circumstances beyond their control, but absolutely not because they can't get their **** together. Countless people work 100 times harder to get a college education. That would be a slap in the face. Let him get kicked to the curb. Life is about choices and consequences. He may spiral downward, or maybe he will see the consequences and wake up. His choice.
 
CanadianDuck said:
Well if losing millions of dollars is not harsh punishment I don't know what is lol. The odd thing about this situations is he thinks he is only hurting himself, but in reality he is hurting the team. I think he should be banned from all football activities, but given the opportunity to remain on scholarship and finish up his degree. I think if the University kicking him to the curb could cause him to spiral into a worse situation.
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You're kidding, right? Losing millions? The pro scouts already know about his talent. Nothing Kelly does is going to change that. The only thing that will affect him getting drafted is "character issues" and he's the one in control of that. For the record I think Kelly has done a pretty good job with discipline but I think Harris is a tough challenge.

Some nfl squad will give him a shot. Don't feel too sorry for him.
 
NW Buff said:
You're kidding, right? Losing millions? The pro scouts already know about his talent. Nothing Kelly does is going to change that. The only thing that will affect him getting drafted is "character issues" and he's the one in control of that. For the record I think Kelly has done a pretty good job with discipline but I think Harris is a tough challenge.

Some nfl squad will give him a shot. Don't feel too sorry for him.
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NOT kidding. Phil Knight has cut his salary in half.
 
I don't see the issue with letting him finish either. He is an idiot, but hasn't commited violent crimes or anything. he is definitely losing himself money because he will be seen as a huge potential liability and hard to discipline and coach. Millions, I dunno, but he is not setting himself up well either way.
 
NW Buff said:
You're kidding, right? Losing millions? The pro scouts already know about his talent. Nothing Kelly does is going to change that. The only thing that will affect him getting drafted is "character issues" and he's the one in control of that. For the record I think Kelly has done a pretty good job with discipline but I think Harris is a tough challenge.

Some nfl squad will give him a shot. Don't feel too sorry for him.
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See LeGarrette Blount and Tampa Bay Buccaneers
 
<eye roll> He's bad, but he's not Jimmy Smith bad...</eye roll>
 
Wanted that kid badly here in Boulder, great speed. Glad we didn't get him as trouble seems to follow him around. Classic mug shot though.
 
This doesn't look anywhere close to Cliff Harris and I don't mean because of drugs. It looks to be a different person all together. Maybe the same name?
 
news update said:
a new fact was revealed Monday. A court-appointed psychiatrist said Harris has CTE, chronic traumatic encephalopathy, a progressive degenerative disease that afflicts the brain of people who have suffered repeated concussions, such as athletes who take part in contact sports.
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Background here on troubling mugshot
2011 and 2016 respectively.
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It was my understanding that CTE can't be diagnosed until after death.

But I'd try to get my client off with that defense, too.
 
Alfred91 said:
It was my understanding that CTE can't be diagnosed until after death.

But I'd try to get my client off with that defense, too.
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Yes, the article says that, in effect "this is interesting because CTE can't be officially diagnosed until the person is dead, because it requires the brain to be examined. But the warning signs for CTE can be there, and perhaps that's what the psychiatrist meant."
 
AlferdJasper said:
why the doubt?
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Unfortunately, I have personal interest in this subject. Not saying he doesn't have CTE, but I do doubt it.

1. He didn't play a position that takes a lot of head banging. Could have had enough blows, but somewhat unlikely.
2. He didn't play long enough. (doesn't rule it out by itself).
3. Most importantly, CTE has a time element. It's the number of blows and then "Time" for the changes in the brain to manifest.

From the Brain Injury Research Institute:
The brain of an individual who suffers from chronic traumatic encephalopathy gradually deteriorates and will over time end up losing mass. I think he's too young to be experiencing these changes.
 
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