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Coach crossed line or Kid should toughen up

What do you think?

  • Kid should Toughen up

    Votes: 12 54.5%

  • Coach was completly in the wrong

    Votes: 10 45.5%
  • Total voters
    22
Both, mostly coach. Kid definitely shouldn't have been surprised to have the ball stripped and fell over, but the kick and the insults after..... Coach should have helped him up and made him do it again, not kicked him and insulted him. Coach is pretty worthless and his inability to accept how wrong he was makes it even worse.
 
dply said:
Out of line. He even kicked him when he was down.
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Maybe we should revert to the old style basketball where you couldnt touch another player without getting called for a foul.

[video=youtube;QeSKfliQhhY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeSKfliQhhY&feature=related[/video]
 
I would prefer a third option - both of them could have reacted a little differently.

Physical contact happens during practices. If the coach had reached down and helped the player up, it would have appeared to be part of a lesson on aggressive rebounding. Instead, he toed the player. I can't say kicked, it was pushing with the toe. That makes the coach look like an idiot and probably why this kid is going to file and win a lawsuit.

The AD should have taken action against the coach and been clear what that action was - even if a minor warning, something to acknowledge the player and his charges were heard. Sweeping it under the rug was a mistake. The player would have probably moved on, had the coach or AD reacted to his concerns. As it is, he is the one not playing Basketball now.
 
GoBuffs!! said:
Maybe we should revert to the old style basketball where you couldnt touch another player without getting called for a foul.
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This is an adult kicking a kid. I really have no problem with the push. It was a little borderline but I've had worse happen to me. But the adult should be held to a higher standard.

Plus I'm pretty sure that play would have been called a foul in a game and at the very least a tech would have been called for the kick.

Are you really arguing this?
 
We don't really know what happened prior to that, though. What if the coach had been riding the kid to play a certain way and do things a certain way for weeks, and the kid wasn't getting the message? What if the kid has real potential, but has motivational issues and needs a kick in the ass - literally? What if the kid's lack of discipline and motivation was starting to wear off on the rest of the team?

What we saw was a 10 second clip of something that happened in a practice. Just as we've been warned not to take quotes out of context, we should be careful about viewing a 10 second video without context.
 
sackman said:
We don't really know what happened prior to that, though. What if the coach had been riding the kid to play a certain way and do things a certain way for weeks, and the kid wasn't getting the message? What if the kid has real potential, but has motivational issues and needs a kick in the ass - literally? What if the kid's lack of discipline and motivation was starting to wear off on the rest of the team?

What we saw was a 10 second clip of something that happened in a practice. Just as we've been warned not to take quotes out of context, we should be careful about viewing a 10 second video without context.
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You're probably right on that. Things can look real bad taken out of context. I also rewatched the video after AJ's response and he really didn't kick him. The kid is a puss but the coach needs to be held at a higher standard.
 
This is ridiculous.

If that was my son and he complained, the first thing I'd do is play some 1-on-1 hoops with him to knock the pussy out of him.
 
Buffnik said:
This is ridiculous.

If that was my son and he complained, the first thing I'd do is play some 1-on-1 hoops with him to knock the pussy out of him.
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Exactly, I think this is a classic example of something blown up way bigger than it is. Yes the coach is put to a higher standard, but seriously, that wasnt a kick, and I had multiple coaches blow up at me worse than that in High School. You take it and realize you need to toughen up next time and fight harder for the ball.

I am willing to bet this is small potatos compared to the average Frank Martin practice.
 
You sometimes have to be a little hands on. It looks like the kid caught an inadvertant elbow or something... Kid maybe deserves an apology but filing police reports is just being a pussy.
 
dply said:
Out of line. He even kicked him when he was down.
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up until that point is sided with the coach... but the fact that he kicked him was over the line... but they both need to nut up
 
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It did not appear to me that he kicked this kid. That was an encouragement toe tap. To me, it is a disgrace that this kid filed charges. What a joke.
 
A smarter AD would have solved this quietly and not on national television. Ignore a complaint instead of having the kid understand it, and the coach explain his side of it... that was the AD's fault.
Doesn't matter who was right or wrong, it's now been escalated and the school should be embarrassed.

By the way, the kid said he was injured and can't play now. Don't know if that's related or unrelated, but he's off the team.
 
AlferdJasper said:
By the way, the kid said he was injured and can't play now. Don't know if that's related or unrelated, but he's off the team.
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If he's saying that the incident has made it so that he can never play competitive basketball again as part of his legal action, I would bet that this would move peoples' opinions to the coach's side. And that sounds like it's exactly what is going on.
 
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