Coach Mora recruitment of a Georgia guy

[buffaholic]

Part of the reason I'm not a Jim Mora fan....

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Smith also went on to say that he felt "kind of" misled about the whole business major aspect. He says UCLA knew that he wanted to major in business, and that he'd expressed this to the school, but the school never told them it was a graduate school major only.

 

[Jayne Cobb]

It seems like there must be some level of caveat emptor on the part of the applying student. One would assume that prospective students, even student athletes, would look at whatever digital equivalent of a university catalog exists in this day and age. If a kid wanted to get a degree in agriculture, you would think that they would know not to consider CU, but to look to CSU for their education.

 

[Buffskier]

It seems like there must be some level of caveat emptor on the part of the applying student. One would assume that prospective students, even student athletes, would look at whatever digital equivalent of a university catalog exists in this day and age. If a kid wanted to get a degree in agriculture, you would think that they would know not to consider CU, but to look to CSU for their education.

The Leeds school is quite nice... plus we got this LB coach/DC named Leavitt.. he's coached some guys you might have heard of... Come to Colorado Roquan!!

 

[DBT]

It seems like there must be some level of caveat emptor on the part of the applying student. One would assume that prospective students, even student athletes, would look at whatever digital equivalent of a university catalog exists in this day and age. If a kid wanted to get a degree in agriculture, you would think that they would know not to consider CU, but to look to CSU for their education.

Why not allow the players to notate, in some sort of document or contract, what the school promises in return for the kid signing a contract with the school? I'm sure schools would just say, "We aren't signing that." I mean, I'm sure there is language in the scholarship "contract" about tuition, terms of maintaining the scholarship, etc. Yeah, if a school says, "Come to good old State U., you can major in Rocket Science." And you get there and find out "Rocket Science" is only offered at a graduate level and you aren't eligible, then you should be able to claim "breach of contract" or something.

 

[SD Buff]

It seems like there must be some level of caveat emptor on the part of the applying student. One would assume that prospective students, even student athletes, would look at whatever digital equivalent of a university catalog exists in this day and age. If a kid wanted to get a degree in agriculture, you would think that they would know not to consider CU, but to look to CSU for their education.

Think we'd all be shocked just how little research parents and the student athletes do on the sales pitches football coaches give them. If coach says xxxx, then xxxx must be true.

 

[sackman]

Dude could have gone to 50 different schools that do have undergrad business schools. If it was really that important to him, he'd have visited the UCLA business school on his OV and discovered it doesn't exist.

This one is on him.

 

[DBT]

Dude could have gone to 50 different schools that do have undergrad business schools. If it was really that important to him, he'd have visited the UCLA business school on his OV and discovered it doesn't exist.

This one is on him.

Shocked they don't have an undergrad program in bidnez.

 

[sackman]

Shocked they don't have an undergrad program in bidnez.

It's surprising to me, too. However, that's not really the point. If I were planning on going to a school - any school - to study business, at the very least I'd want to check into the B-school rankings. Kid says he feels "mislead". If I were him, "mislead" isn't the term I would use.

 

[AeroBuff99]

UCLA offers a B.A. in Economics and one in Business Economics through the college of letters and science and and a Graduate School of Management that offers PhD, MBA, and a Master of Financial Engineering.

 

[AlferdJasper]

The Leeds school is quite nice... plus we got this LB coach/DC named Leavitt.. he's coached some guys you might have heard of... Come to Colorado Roquan!!

And ... name any football player in recent memory who was able to juggle the Leeds' demanding schedule with mandatory football practice and games. Hint: I can think of one player who graduated in 2013 -- beyond that, it's not an easy task, nor is Engineering plus football.

 

[rosstr]

And ... name any football player in recent memory who was able to juggle the Leeds' demanding schedule with mandatory football practice and games. Hint: I can think of one player who graduated in 2013 -- beyond that, it's not an easy task, nor is Engineering plus football.

Never heard those three words mentioned together. Tyler Polumbus was one. I think that Olinemen Brian Daniels was another. He might have had a true 4.0, that ****er. Bested me by a little.

 

[TDbuff]

And ... name any football player in recent memory who was able to juggle the Leeds' demanding schedule with mandatory football practice and games. Hint: I can think of one player who graduated in 2013 -- beyond that, it's not an easy task, nor is Engineering plus football.

Seriously, where'd you get this idea? I mean, it can be demanding, but it doesn't have to be. Had plenty of football players in my very non-demanding marketing, management, and h/r classes.

 

[Idot Buff]

Seriously, where'd you get this idea? I mean, it can be demanding, but it doesn't have to be. Had plenty of football players in my very non-demanding marketing, management, and h/r classes.

Agreed....even way back when, Barry Helton made it through Leeds, and he was far from a mental giant.

 

[DBT]

UCLA offers a B.A. in Economics and one in Business Economics through the college of letters and science and and a Graduate School of Management that offers PhD, MBA, and a Master of Financial Engineering.

Yeah. A BA in economics will sure as hell get you a job. :sad2:

 

[Uncle Ken]

It's surprising to me, too. However, that's not really the point. If I were planning on going to a school - any school - to study business, at the very least I'd want to check into the B-school rankings. Kid says he feels "mislead". If I were him, "mislead" isn't the term I would use.

Would you use the term "misled" instead?

I can't tell if that was your intended joke or not.

 

[sackman]

Would you use the term "misled" instead?

I can't tell if that was your intended joke or not.

Just a spelling error. The term I would have chosen would have been "stupid" or "ignorant", or possibly "easily manipulated".

 

[Burrito]

Just a spelling error. The term I would have chosen would have been "stupid" or "ignorant", or possibly "easily manipulated".

Caveat emptor?

 

[somebody]

Did you guys read the article? He hasn't committed. He did the research, just a little late in the process.

Doing a lot of research, which I should have done earlier in the process and thank goodness I had more time, they don't even have my major. I was going to major in business, and the only way to get into business school out there is to be in graduate school.

 

[sackman]

Did you guys read the article? He hasn't committed. He did the research, just a little late in the process.

I only read the quote from the OP. I'm glad the kid didn't commit. I take back what I said about him.

 

[buffaholic]

UCLA has one of the finest business schools in the west. If the coaches were a little vague about the fact that you actually can't receive an Undergrad degree in Business from the school...... Yeah, I can see Mora being a little vague about that. Mora is a 3-4 year guy, everywhere he's been. His pro guys quit on him by year 4. Ask yourself why.

It's easy to say "it's on the kid" but in the end, it's about whether you are being totally honest with your recruits about their future life at UCLA. If they are willing to be vague (i.e. misleading) to a recruit about that, they are going to do the same around a lot of things.

 

[slider]

So last season Rich Rod sucked. Now it's Mora

 

[buffaholic]

So last season Rich Rod sucked. Now it's Mora

no RichRod is still a db. Give it time.

 

[BuffNut99]

Roquan committed to UGA this morning. Minor win for CU, keeps him out of our division (not that UCLA is hurting).

 

[onealcd]

I have always liked Mora. Seems like a good guy and you can't blame him for wanting back to the NFL, there are a lot of coaches like that.

 

[DavisBuff]

Nebraska's coach Warren just jumped to UNC. I wonder if that has been in the works for a while. Eric Lee would have probably gone to NU anyway; it still kind of sucks for a kid that developed a relationship with his position coach and now is committed to someone else.

 

[WizzersGhost]

So last season Rich Rod sucked. Now it's Mora

No, Mora's sucked very year. I want him at UCLA. A good thing for the Buffs.

 

[slider]

No, Mora's sucked very year. I want him at UCLA. A good thing for the Buffs.

The two previous coaches went 56-59 with 2 bowl wins in 9 seasons.

Mora:
29-11 and 2 straight bowl victories. And now he's raking in the recruits.

 

[somebody]

Nebraska's coach Warren just jumped to UNC. I wonder if that has been in the works for a while. Eric Lee would have probably gone to NU anyway; it still kind of sucks for a kid that developed a relationship with his position coach and now is committed to someone else.

I find that humorous.

 

[White_Rabbit]

The two previous coaches went 56-59 with 2 bowl wins in 9 seasons.

Mora:
29-11 and 2 straight bowl victories. And now he's raking in the recruits.

Nah, he sucks. Other than Mac, there's not a single good coach in the P12. Mike Riley was a well respected allbuffs coach, but he gone now.

 

[FlatironsBuff]

Nah, he sucks. Other than Mac, there's not a single good coach in the P12. Mike Riley was a well respected allbuffs coach, but he gone now.

Mike Riley is dead to me.