Collier: The Next shabazz?

[wyobuff]

http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/ncb...collier-could-be-a-star?ex_cid=espnapi_public

Kind of a thin article, but great praise for tad, dom & CU

 

[BuffTE41]

Hearing things like this is the reason I'm not overly concerned with Spencer's decision.

 

[Buffnik]

Could Collier be another Napier?

Fun to think about. Excuse me while I go sacrifice a goat for good luck.

 

[sackman]

I'm not sure how Collier, a top 100 player who was recruited by dozens of schools, falls into the category of "under the radar", but whatever.

 

[Buffnik]

I'm not sure how Collier, a top 100 player who was recruited by dozens of schools, falls into the category of "under the radar", but whatever.

Under-the-radar from a national basketball recruiting standpoint. Anyone who isn't a McDonald's All-American is considered under-the-radar for this exercise when the comparable is Napier (who ESPN had a a 4* with a 94 grade). Welcome to the big leagues, sacky. Now that CU is expected to compete with the likes of Arizona, Kansas, UCLA, etc., etc... we're also having our recruits compared to the types of guys those programs land.

 

[aik]

I'm not sure how Collier, a top 100 player who was recruited by dozens of schools, falls into the category of "under the radar", but whatever.

Doug Gottlieb's radar

 

[Buffenuf]

Doug Gottlieb's radar

this :rofl:

 

[absinthe]

just glad the Shabazz was Napier and not Muhammad.

 

[wsp4820]

just glad the Shabazz was Napier and not Muhammad.

:nod: My first thought as well.

 

[BuffTE41]

just glad the Shabazz was Napier and not Muhammad.

I would have gladly taken Shabazz Muhammad. :huh:

 

[rolandftw]

I'm not sure how Collier, a top 100 player who was recruited by dozens of schools, falls into the category of "under the radar", but whatever.

Late in the process, he was definitely under the radar

 

[absinthe]

I would have gladly taken Shabazz Muhammad. :huh:

He who played no defense, forced the head coach to change his approach to the game, and eventually got his coach fired? no thanks.

or look at it this way in UCLA's 2012 class if you had to take 1 would have signed Bazz?
if you had to give up our best recruit in 2012 to get Bazz would you have?

 

[BuffG]

Shabazz was an understudy to Kemba his freshman year. Unless Spencer comes back, well, I hope Dom breaks out before his senior year regardless

 

[BuffTE41]

He who played no defense, forced the head coach to change his approach to the game, and eventually got his coach fired? no thanks.

or look at it this way in UCLA's 2012 class if you had to take 1 would have signed Bazz?
if you had to give up our best recruit in 2012 to get Bazz would you have?

I wouldn't have turned down a 5-star one-and-done. Boyle would be able to utilize a player like that.

 

[rolandftw]

or look at it this way in UCLA's 2012 class if you had to take 1 would have signed Bazz?
if you had to give up our best recruit in 2012 to get Bazz would you have?

No coach was turning down a commitment from the #2 ranked high school player in the country.

 

[Goose]

He who played no defense, forced the head coach to change his approach to the game, and eventually got his coach fired? no thanks.

or look at it this way in UCLA's 2012 class if you had to take 1 would have signed Bazz?
if you had to give up our best recruit in 2012 to get Bazz would you have?

Would we have had to pay him what UCLA paid him too?

 

[RalphieSpeaks]

Would we have had to pay him what UCLA paid him too?

Probably more.....

 

[absinthe]

Would we have had to pay him what UCLA paid him too?

A point I didn't even consider.

I wouldn't have turned down a 5-star one-and-done. Boyle would be able to utilize a player like that.

In order to get Bazz Howland did everything and anything he could including changing his teams style of play away from what got him to 3 final 4's - would Boyle have done the same? could it have worked with our cast of guys at the time? Boyle has always said he's about defense and rebound Bazz really wasnt into either.

No coach was turning down a commitment from the #2 ranked high school player in the country.

That goes without saying, but I am not talking about the highschool player, we have the gift of hind sight he clearly wasn't the #2 player out of HS in 2012. Looking at what we know now: he was a year older than advertised, he turned out not to be clutch or a winner, his effort was often questionable, he slipped out of the lottery, lsot to an 11 seed in the tourney, cost his coach a job, played less than no defense. In his own UCLA class do you take him over SloMo? looking at our class would you want him over Josh Scott?

Dont get me wrong Bazz was a very good college player but he meant basically nothing to UCLA and got to the NBA on the hype from highschool. If he was the number 100 player out of HS and he comes in and averages 18/5 with all the other questions around him does he even go in the first round?

 

[Bone Buff]

Holy crap, he probably hasn't picked out his classes for the fall and we're already posting this.

#isitnovemberyet