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CU Admins: "You wanna use the Ralphie logo? Pay me, b!tch@s!"

You sign a contract to pay quarterly royalties and then try to claim that it's okay to pay every 5 years? Who's being dickish?
 
zbuff said:
You sign a contract to pay quarterly royalties and then try to claim that it's okay to pay every 5 years? Who's being dickish?
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You are correct, sir. I originally read and posted this shortened version from the denverpost.com. Then I took another look at it and noticed that it was originally from The Camera so I changed the link. However, I didn't realize that the Camera version had a lot more details. I just read the full story and I agree with you. The barber was not without fault in this dispute.
 
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Anyone know how long the University maintains ownership/rights/whatever over a logo? Since the "official" Ralphie logo now has the italicized CU in it, can other groups freely use the block lettered version?
 
DallasBuff said:
How much is Allbuffs paying for use of the brand?
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Top of this page....obviously not the trademarked version of the brand, but certainly a likeness that arguably CU could come after for royalties...
 
DallasBuff said:
Top of this page....obviously not the trademarked version of the brand, but certainly a likeness that arguably CU could come after for royalties...
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No. Stoudt does not look anything like the CU Ralphie logos. No reasonable person would look at the AllBuffs trade dress and assume that we had an affiliation with or endorsement from the University of Colorado athletic department.

If we ever decide to do CU logo gear that we sell through an AllBuffs store, you can be damn sure that we'll either source it from someone with an official license and/or get a license and make timely payments if we decide we want to do unique products.
 
Buffnik said:
No. Stoudt does not look anything like the CU Ralphie logos. No reasonable person would look at the AllBuffs trade dress and assume that we had an affiliation with or endorsement from the University of Colorado athletic department.

If we ever decide to do CU logo gear that we sell through an AllBuffs store, you can be damn sure that we'll either source it from someone with an official license and/or get a license and make timely payments and make our payments on time if we decide we want to do unique products.
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I agree with your comments, but I don't think that is the point. The question, and it is a stretch, would be is this site profiting or gaining some benefit from an image that has a likeness to a trademarked brand? Probably not...but who knows....
 
DallasBuff said:
I agree with your comments, but I don't think that is the point. The question, and it is a stretch, would be is this site profiting or gaining some benefit from an image that has a likeness to a trademarked brand? Probably not...but who knows....
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Why would that be the question and what does it have to do with a barber shop that licensed the CU logo to market a product and then didn't make payments?
 
Buffnik said:
Why would that be the question and what does it have to do with a barber shop that licensed the CU logo to market a product and then didn't make payments?
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Did you read the entire article, and are you familiar with the value of brands? Organizations that are successful in making money from their brands (UT, as an example from the article) work diligently to ensure that they are paid by businesses who earn profits from utilizing the brand. The barber shop makes money, presumably, from having the Buff logo spread all over its establishment. I acknowledged it was a stretch that CU would come after Allbuffs because of Stoudt. However, if CU became like UT and other organizations that truly want to protect their brand from others profiting from it without paying royalties, then CU could ask that Allbuffs remove any likeness to Ralphie from the site.
 
UT is the gold standard as far as university athletic departments that maximize their brands and have aggressively protected its marks.

You also have sites like shaggybevo, orangebloods, burnt orange nation, horn fans and other message boards that use identifying logos that make it clear that they are UT fan sites. This is not an issue. I'm not sure why you want to make it into one.

Edit: Look at the NFL for other examples. No one protects its brands like the NFL. Might want to check out The Orange Mane web site and its logo.

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DallasBuff said:
I agree with your comments, but I don't think that is the point. The question, and it is a stretch, would be is this site profiting or gaining some benefit from an image that has a likeness to a trademarked brand? Probably not...but who knows....
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I think the problem stems from seeing the mods driving around in their Bugattis.
 
CU officials have asked that the Bollingers remove the trademarked Ralphie from the window and replace it with a more generic Buffalo. The university has suggested that they change the shop's name from "Buffs Barber Shop" to "Buff Barber Shop" to avoid a trademark violation.
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Oh noes! They're gonna make Buffnik change this site to allbuff.com! :cry::wow::cry:

And I guess The Ralphie Report will have to become The Ralph Report!
 
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DallasBuff said:
Top of this page....obviously not the trademarked version of the brand, but certainly a likeness that arguably CU could come after for royalties...
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We'll just send them after the more blatant abuse of the brand in your signature... :smile2:
 
Tatanka™ said:
Oh noes! There gonna make Buffnik change this site to allbuff.com! :cry::wow::cry:

And I guess The Ralphie Report will have to become The Ralph Report!
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I don't own this site, man.

All the liability is dio's.
 
Junction said:
We'll just send them after the more blatant abuse of the brand in your signature... :smile2:
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Well done! Of course, they should really go after Danny for the way he abused the brand and set it back multiple years.
 
DallasBuff said:
I agree with your comments, but I don't think that is the point. The question, and it is a stretch, would be is this site profiting or gaining some benefit from an image that has a likeness to a trademarked brand? Probably not...but who knows....
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The question you pose as answered by volumes of law would be no. The likeness have to be so close to enforce this type of infringement that we are at no risk at all with stoudt. He's named differently, colored differently, smiling, walking upright, and missing the letters C&U. Al of those things sound dumb but they very much go into deciding a case like this.
 
absinthe said:
The question you pose as answered by volumes of law would be no. The likeness have to be so close to enforce this type of infringement that we are at no risk at all with stoudt. He's named differently, colored differently, smiling, walking upright, and missing the letters C&U. Al of those things sound dumb but they very much go into deciding a case like this.
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Thanks....I suppose Business Law 101 failed me!
 
This site is probably fine. Despite the color scheme and use of the word "BUFFS" which CU probably has common law trademark rights in, this site is pretty clearly not affilicated with CU.
 
azbuff said:
This site is probably fine. Despite the color scheme and use of the word "BUFFS" which CU probably has common law trademark rights in, this site is pretty clearly not affilicated with CU.
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Sounds painful.
 
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