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CU Football: Better team in 2013 or 2010?

Better CU team?

  • 2010

    Votes: 31 64.6%

  • 2013

    Votes: 17 35.4%
  • Total voters
    48
Buffnik

Buffnik

Real name isn't Nik
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In 2010, CU went 5-7.

2010 schedule
W vs CSU (24-3)
L @ Cal (7-57)
W vs Hawaii (31-13)
W vs Georgia (29-27)
L @ Missouri (0-26)
L vs Baylor (25-31)
L vs Texas Tech (24-27)
L @ Oklahoma (10-43)
L @ Kansas (45-52)
W vs Iowa State (34-14)
W vs Kansas State (44-36)
L @ Nebraska (17-45)

2013 Schedule
W vs CSU (41-27)
W vs C Arkansas (38-24)
vs Fresno State
@ Oregon State
vs Oregon
@ Arizona State
vs Arizona
@ UCLA
@ Washington
vs Cal
vs USC
@ Utah

The biggest advantages the 2010 team had were Jimmy Smith at CB, Nate Solder at LT and Rodney Stewart at RB. At CB and LT, Henderson and Harris are very good college players but they're not 1st round draft picks. Stewart was a playmaker at RB and we don't have anyone who puts as much pressure on a defense as he did.

Otherwise, we actually compare pretty favorably. I especially like our DL a lot better than 2010's (Cunningham was the leader of the group). And I don't think there's any doubt that coaching and team attitude are much better today than they were in 2010.
 
I went with the 2013 team due to the fact that the coaching staff appears to have a far better upside
 
Hard for me to remember when players got hurt. We did have Major and Rippy on the roster, but I can't remember if they played that season. Rippy, Sipili and Major could've been great as a LBers group. The Oline had Ryan Miller and Nate Solder as tackles I think, although Miller may also have been coming back from injury. Cody and Tyler rotated at QB, right? I think Perkins was mostly injured at Saftey. That team should've been better, but injuries, off the field problems, and HaLk made it underperform. Cabral came in to get 2 wins at the end. 2010 had better upperclassman, but with injuries,etc., the 2013 Buffs may turn out to be the better team.
 
2010 had more talent and more experience players. 2013 has WAY better coaching. We'd be a mid-tier PAC12 team with 2010's talent and 2013's coaching staff.
 
Too early to tell, I do remember being very upset that we should have won against Baylor (****ing bubble screen) and that Tech game the following week.

We have much better coaching, but I don't know if we'll touch 5 wins this year and as I said before that 2010 team should have won more games. This team may overachieve and reach what the 2010 team did to underachieve.
 
2010 had a much deeper roster and some high quality starters. DII and crew cliniced the team to 5-7 instead of 7-5 and a bowl game. Frickin KU game, are you kidding me?
 
We are younger but playing together as a team to this point. At least thus far! Current Buffs staff is off to a very good start. Just too early to pass judgement..... Ask me Monday. We are about to learn much this Saturday.....
 
No reason the 2010 team shouldn't have won 7-8 games, that year. That schedule was set up for 8 wins. IMO, the 2013 schedule is extremely harder than the 2010 schedule. That 2010 team had some good players.
 
Buffnik said:
Deehan. We certainly went into the season thinking we did, but looking back I'm not so sure I'd take him over Fernandez.
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you are drunk on Kool-aide. You are also omitting a number of 2010 difference makers on your list:

Toney Clemons
Scotty McKnight
PRich
Travon Patterson (faster than anyone but Prich on this team)
Jalil Brown
Preicak as all-league
Hartigan/West/beatty is a better rush combo than CUD and the flavor of the week.
 
That 2010 underachieved and was poorly coached. While talented, I hate thinking about that team. For those reasons, plus Connor Wood (due in part to my general disdain for all things Hawkins) I'll go with 2013.
 
Really not fair to compare. The coaching staff on this year's team is heads and shoulders above the 2010 team.
 
absinthe said:
you are drunk on Kool-aide. You are also omitting a number of 2010 difference makers on your list:

Toney Clemons
Scotty McKnight
PRich
Travon Patterson (faster than anyone but Prich on this team)
Jalil Brown
Preicak as all-league
Hartigan/West/beatty is a better rush combo than CUD and the flavor of the week.
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I think there is a tendency to look back and remember players at their best from over the course of their careers versus what they were/did during a particular season. We'll look back and do the same with the 2013 Buffs.

We got terrible QB play that year. Neither Scotty nor Toney had a 100 yard game all season. P-Rich is the only guy who did and he's a lot better now.

On the pass rush, we'll have to see how things play out. Chidera + 2 other guys need 17 1/2 sacks to match that pass rush trio. Keep an eye on Juda and Gilbert.

Anyway, it's a long season.

One thing that drives me crazy looking back on that year's roster is the young talent that was run off. Will Jefferson, Forrest West and Liloa Nobriga were 3 of our most productive underclassmen. Embree's time here would have been much more competitive if he'd kept those 3 in the fold (and it would be so nice to have Nobriga this season as a senior OLB).
 
Buffnik said:
I think there is a tendency to look back and remember players at their best from over the course of their careers versus what they were/did during a particular season. We'll look back and do the same with the 2013 Buffs.

We got terrible QB play that year. Neither Scotty nor Toney had a 100 yard game all season. P-Rich is the only guy who did and he's a lot better now.

On the pass rush, we'll have to see how things play out. Chidera + 2 other guys need 17 1/2 sacks to match that pass rush trio. Keep an eye on Juda and Gilbert.

Anyway, it's a long season.

One thing that drives me crazy looking back on that year's roster is the young talent that was run off. Will Jefferson, Forrest West and Liloa Nobriga were 3 of our most productive underclassmen. Embree's time here would have been much more competitive if he'd kept those 3 in the fold (and it would be so nice to have Nobriga this season as a senior OLB).
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How is Will Jefferson doing? I seem to recall him being "run off" was reported as having something to do with really bad knees, but then he popped up on a roster elsewhere. Anyone know if he's been tearing it up at his new school, or is he, in fact, as injured as what had been reported.
 
lawdogg said:
How is Will Jefferson doing? I seem to recall him being "run off" was reported as having something to do with really bad knees, but then he popped up on a roster elsewhere. Anyone know if he's been tearing it up at his new school, or is he, in fact, as injured as what had been reported.
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Not tearing it up at UNCG. Had a little over 250 yards receiving last year. When I saw him during Embree's first spring, Will Jeff was hobbling around and not always participating, so I can see why they medically retired him. Of course, then the P-Rich injury hit and even at 80% WillJeff would have helped last year.
 
Buffnik said:
I think there is a tendency to look back and remember players at their best from over the course of their careers versus what they were/did during a particular season. We'll look back and do the same with the 2013 Buffs.
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That's true, but when I look back at players like that I think of what they did with the coaching they had and what they could have done with better coaching.
 
mdelpizzo_1 said:
That's true, but when I look back at players like that I think of what they did with the coaching they had and what they could have done with better coaching.
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On that note, I'm sure that our current OL coach would love to have inherited Solder-Adkins-Iltis-Miller-Givens with Bakhtiari and Harris as RS-Frosh working in.
 
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