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CU Football: No longer young in 2015

Buffnik

Buffnik

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On offense:

QB - 3rd year starter (with a RS Jr backup)
RB - leading rusher from past 3 seasons returns along with the 3rd & 4th leading rushers (1, 2 & 3 in YPA)
FB - returning starter (RS So) fan favorite who scored 4 TDs on only 10 touches last year while splitting time at DE due to need
TE - RS-Junior returning starter (youth behind, including a RS Fr who was one of most heralded recruits but missed 2014 with injuries)
WR - 5th year senior Belitnikoff finalist returns along with a 50-catch WR (plus 5th & 6th leading WRs)
OL - returning starters at the most important spots of RT (5th yr Sr), LT (4th yr Jr), C (4th yr Jr who was a GS) along with a LG who played a lot of snaps (3rd yr So who was a GS) and a RG battle between a 4th yr Jr and a 3rd yr So.

On defense:

CB - 4th year starter (Sr) on one side who is a possible high NFL pick and a couple of 3rd yr Juniors projected to start opposite him - one is a 3-year starter in the secondary who will be at NB most of the time, the other a JUCO transfer who lit up the spring game in 2014; veteran backups who have started
S - 6th year Sr at one safety spot and a 3rd yr junior at the other - both returning starters; veteran backups who have started
LB - question marks here but it's a position group filled with players who have started in the past, including a 3rd yr Jr (former GS) who was a freshman AA before a lost So year due to injuries; 4 new positions but each should be manned by veteran players
DL - anchored by 2 Sr (4th yr) DTs and reinforced by the return of 2 4th yr Jrs who missed last season due to discipline or injury, then bolstered by the addition of 3 JUCO transfers, the 3 DL spots are manned with the most experience we've seen at CU in years

tl;dr version: Flush any thoughts about a "youth excuse" in 2015. If this program and roster is able to win, it will start winning this season.
 
If we stay healthy we can be okay this year. If people start dropping from injuries, I worry about the youth behind the starters.
 
Highlander said:
If we stay healthy we can be okay this year. If people start dropping from injuries, I worry about the youth behind the starters.
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We have depth beyond what we have seen since we almost made a bowl with an ass hat HC. I think this team has good depth at secondary and DL. Has major questions at LB.

Offense has no depth issues if Sefo stays healthy.

We won't be playing RBs or WRs at DB. No more excuses. Time to be uncommon.


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I would not go so far to say offense has no depth issues if Sefo stays healthy. WR and TE (especially) look pretty thin. But overall, depth is not the issue it was even a year ago.
 
Duff Man said:
I would not go so far to say offense has no depth issues if Sefo stays healthy. WR and TE (especially) look pretty thin. But overall, depth is not the issue it was even a year ago.
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This. I have been on the depth/youth bandwagon as an excuse/explanation for several years. This year. No. No way. Way too many guys have played way too many games over the last few years for that excuse to hold any water anymore.

It's time for these kids to grow up, shed the losing culture of the previous two staffs and make their mark on CU Football by turning the tide and getting this team to be at the very least in bowl consideration going into November. They have no more excuses. They have been around the block. Played good teams close at times and damn near beat one or two. Time to make those good games an every week occurance and win the games they should and steal one or two they should not. No more games where the wheels completely fall off.

They have to learn how to win.

That gives you 7 wins and a bowl, IMO.
 
We have some experience and depth, but average talent and a killer home schedule. I'm really seeing 2016 as the breakout year...but let's hope Mac duplicates his 3rd year success he had at SJSU!
 
Our schedule is so brutal at home. Being competitive against the teams outside of OU at home matters. We need to be in the game with 6 minutes left and need to take one against some of the better teams.

On the road we need to eek 2 wins on the road in conference. It's possible. I think we go 3-1 OOC. Anything less and I think the team could deflate after a tough home stretch.
 
Duff Man said:
I would not go so far to say offense has no depth issues if Sefo stays healthy. WR and TE (especially) look pretty thin. But overall, depth is not the issue it was even a year ago.
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Agree, TE is the one area I neglected to think of but it is because we only had one guy there in '14.


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Our biggest obstacle this year is learning how to win. We have enough talent to compete in most of our games, but will we learn how to finish?
 
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Our schedule is so brutal at home. Being competitive against the teams outside of OU at home matters. We need to be in the game with 6 minutes left and need to take one against some of the better teams.

On the road we need to eek 2 wins on the road in conference. It's possible. I think we go 3-1 OOC. Anything less and I think the team could deflate after a tough home stretch.
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I like your reasoning, pretty much see a similar season playing out but 3-1 is still a bad OOC. Need to be 4-0. Our schedule is going to be brutal every year; we play in a Power 5 conference. This cushion of an excuse should stop as well. You have to beat the best to be the best, right?! So sooner or later, just being on the field and competing will have to turn into wins. I think it happens this year.

We have start with a Hawaii team that we should beat even with the whole vacation feel, a CSU team that lost it's key position in QB, 2 cupcakes at home sandwiched between that, and then what we have to face every year with this being one of the better conference schedules we could have got. You would rather have your tough games at home and easier games on the road. UCLA is a good case in point, we just looked better here while we played a USC team that wasn't much different than UCLA and we got trounced. We have 3 winnable conference road games on the road. I like this schedule and 6 minimum should be the bar.
 
DiggerBuffs said:
I like your reasoning, pretty much see a similar season playing out but 3-1 is still a bad OOC. Need to be 4-0. Our schedule is going to be brutal every year; we play in a Power 5 conference. This cushion of an excuse should stop as well. You have to beat the best to be the best, right?! So sooner or later, just being on the field and competing will have to turn into wins. I think it happens this year.

We have start with a Hawaii team that we should beat even with the whole vacation feel, a CSU team that lost it's key position in QB, 2 cupcakes at home sandwiched between that, and then what we have to face every year with this being one of the better conference schedules we could have got. You would rather have your tough games at home and easier games on the road. UCLA is a good case in point, we just looked better here while we played a USC team that wasn't much different than UCLA and we got trounced. We have 3 winnable conference road games on the road. I like this schedule and 6 minimum should be the bar.
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Not when you are at the state CU is in. You want the easy games at home and hard games away. Gives you a better chance at wins.
 
FightCu1414 said:
Not when you are at the state CU is in. You want the easy games at home and hard games away. Gives you a better chance at wins.
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This. We can't build a program playing Texas A&M and Nebraska until we have a reasonable shot at beating them. We need "patsies" (I realize we are considered that by many) to build the team's confidence, get better recruits etc.
 
FightCu1414 said:
Not when you are at the state CU is in. You want the easy games at home and hard games away. Gives you a better chance at wins.
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Having your hard games on the road also gives you little to no shot when things start to struggle. At least against a good team at home, you can sometimes rebound. A division championship team would much rather face a tough opponent at home than on the road.
 
DiggerBuffs said:
Having your hard games on the road also gives you little to no shot when things start to struggle. At least against a good team at home, you can sometimes rebound. A division championship team would much rather face a tough opponent at home than on the road.
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Our priority is not winning conferences or national titles right now, it's making it to a bowl game. Easy games at home would be ideal.
 
MrFrumpylane said:
Our priority is not winning conferences or national titles right now, it's making it to a bowl game. Easy games at home would be ideal.
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MM and RG have built a good foundation...we just need to demonstrate we are competitive and go bowling...IMO that will turn the momentum pretty decisively in our favor...which would be impossible getting the **** kicked out of us at home.
 
FightCu1414 said:
Not when you are at the state CU is in. You want the easy games at home and hard games away. Gives you a better chance at wins.
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I want the best odds at beating marquee teams. Even Hawkins got W's against Oklahoma, West Virginia, & UGA at Folsom. No one outside the program will care if we beat Hawaii, UMASS, CSU, Nicholls, Wash St etc. We need a program W against 1 of Oregon, USC, or Stanford for not only our players to believe they're capable, but everyone else to take notice.
 
BuffG said:
I want the best odds at beating marquee teams. Even Hawkins got W's against Oklahoma, West Virginia, & UGA at Folsom. No one outside the program will care if we beat Hawaii, UMASS, CSU, Nicholls, Wash St etc. We need a program W against 1 of Oregon, USC, or Stanford for not only our players to believe they're capable, but everyone else to take notice.
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No one gives a **** about a 2-10 with losses to those teams
 
We've been young since 2006. It's allbuffs blasphemy to claim that our pending 2015 losing season isn't because we are young.
 
Bufffan68 said:
This. We can't build a program playing Texas A&M and Nebraska until we have a reasonable shot at beating them. We need "patsies" (I realize we are considered that by many) to build the team's confidence, get better recruits etc.
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You realize that those games aren't scheduled until 2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021, right?

How many years of playing patsies does it take until you're good enough to play non-patsies?
 
skibum said:
You realize that those games aren't scheduled until 2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021, right?

How many years of playing patsies does it take until you're good enough to play non-patsies?
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I do realize that. I have no idea how many years it takes and I have no idea if we will be at all competitive when we hit those tough games. I just think we need patsies to give us the change to get the wins we need to improve recruiting etc.
 
Bufffan68 said:
I do realize that. I have no idea how many years it takes and I have no idea if we will be at all competitive when we hit those tough games. I just think we need patsies to give us the change to get the wins we need to improve recruiting etc.
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Thats why we have Hawaii, UMass, and Nicholls State on the schedule this year
 
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