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CU to play two FCS teams (one in 2012 and one in 2013)

NashBuff

CSU Knob-Slobberer
http://www.buffzone.com/ci_19085181

One of the two will be from the Big Sky Conference and it will not be UNC.

CU will not play a BCS team in non-conference play in '12 & '13 and that will be the first time since 1948 (when we joined the Big Eight) that has occurred.
 
Good and about time - hopefully the Buffs don't disappoint, but use as momentum and run a score up on someone? Would be nice to get to a point where 2nd and 3rd stringers can see the field on a regular mop up roll
 
CU needs those kind of games to build confidence in before the series against LSU which the article said could start in 2014 or 2015.
 
Yep, sad state of affairs when we are rejoicing to this. But, I'm ok with this, at least temporarily
 
Quick points:
1: Didn't we used to have LSU down for these years?
2: Didn't we used to have either Cal or some other PAC 10 opponents down for these years?
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3: With the Pac12 TV deal coming next year, are these games guaranteed to be on TV?
 
HouBuff said:
Sad it had to come to this.
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No it's not. We now have an additional BCS opponent every year with the move to a 9 game conference schedule. This team desperately needs games to build upon. I sure as hell won't be half asleep in the home opener each of these next 2 years.
 
Guess I'm trying to figure out what make CU so special that they don't feel they need to play these teams. Just took a glance at most of the top ten teams right now and it looks like they all take this route. This practice of taking on all comers was fine back in the day, but not right now.

This team needs wins, plain and simple. We have to get to a bowl game. Think of the number of practices this team has missed out on while we are sitting at home. I believe it's around 15 additional practices. Over the course of a players career that's around 60 additional practices. Do you think this team would be better with 60 additional practices under their belts? I do.

The schedule can always be modified as we get better, but right now this is what is needed.
 
9 game conference schedule. And we now have a 12 game season when in the past it was 11.

I'm looking at it like we're in a situation where we already picked up an extra BCS opponent every season and then the NCAA gave us an extra open game so we can take a cupcake like pretty much every other BCS program in the country does. To me, this is just smart.

I like the idea that if we take care of business against FCS and CSU, then we just need to go 4-6 the rest of the way to be in a bowl game. It doesn't make that a good season, but it makes it a season you can recruit to.
 
Buffnik said:
9 game conference schedule. And we now have a 12 game season when in the past it was 11.

I'm looking at it like we're in a situation where we already picked up an extra BCS opponent every season and then the NCAA gave us an extra open game so we can take a cupcake like pretty much every other BCS program in the country does. To me, this is just smart.

I like the idea that if we take care of business against FCS and CSU, then we just need to go 4-6 the rest of the way to be in a bowl game. It doesn't make that a good season, but it makes it a season you can recruit to.
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:stupid: The only reason Colorado was taking on all comers was because CU needed the money generated from TV games (Georgia, West Virginia, etc.) which was not generated by taking on Wyoming or Northern Arizona. Now, with equal division of television revenue, and all games being televised, the need to have 50,000 seats sold and a national television audience has been eliminated. Texas has been playing North Texas, and Nebraska has been playing South Dakota State, for years now - because they could. CU is finally on a financial footing to post a "W" early in the season, gain some momentum, and be one step closer to a bowl game each season ... just like everybody else.

As for me ... :thumbsup: to the CU athletic department.
 
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With the Pac 12 TV contract, I would think UNC would love to play CU. Not that it isn't in the works, but that may be their best shot at getting on television.

I'm not against this move. We're rebuilding. We need to generate some wins in order to rebuild. That's the simple facts.
 
Not only are the top teams playing cupcakes -- most of them are playing MULTIPLE cupcakes. Consider:


LSU plays Northwestern State (of Louisiana) and Western Kentucky this season.
Alabama plays Kent State, North Texas, and Georgia Southern this season.
Oklahoma plays Tulsa and Ball State this season.
Wisconsin plays Northern Illinois and South Dakota this season.
OK State plays Louisiana Lafeyette and Tulsa.
Stanford plays San Jose State and Duke (actually a BCS team, somehow).
Clemson plays Troy and Wofford.
Oregon plays Nevada and Missouri State.
Arkansas plays Missouri State, New Mexico, and Troy.
 
No shame here, we need to come out of non-conference with a winning record. Our chances of making a bowl game next year just went up considerably.

Any guesses as to whom we are playing? One is from the Big Sky but is not UNC... my guess is Portland State. Do we want to get Montana State back in here for some payback?
 
Lt.Col.FrankSlade said:
Not only are the top teams playing cupcakes -- most of them are playing MULTIPLE cupcakes. Consider:


LSU plays Northwestern State (of Louisiana) and Western Kentucky this season. AND Oregon and West Virginia
Alabama plays Kent State, North Texas, and Georgia Southern this season. AND Penn State
Oklahoma plays Tulsa and Ball State this season. AND Florida State
Wisconsin plays Northern Illinois and South Dakota this season. AND Oregon State
OK State plays Louisiana Lafeyette and Tulsa. AND Arizona
Stanford plays San Jose State and Duke (actually a BCS team, somehow). AND Notre Dame
Clemson plays Troy and Wofford. AND Auburn and South Carolina.
Oregon plays Nevada and Missouri State. AND LSU
Arkansas plays Missouri State, New Mexico, and Troy. AND Texas A&M
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Maybe fill in the rest of those non-conference schedules and tell me what you see. I don't think you'll find anyone who wants CU to schedule all three OOC games against BCS teams. But, you'll find plenty of people that don't want all three games to be against FBS and non-BCS teams.
 
If I was Bohn, I'd only allow season ticket sales for the Pac-12 games -- no single game purchases for those games. (Not including the visitor's tickets, of course.) Given the Pac-12 home games next season he might be able to pull that off. Would generate decent revenue for the FCS games, even if the crowd was poor.
 
Lt.Col.FrankSlade said:
If I was Bohn, I'd only allow season ticket sales for the Pac-12 games -- no single game purchases for those games. (Not including the visitor's tickets, of course.) Given the Pac-12 home games next season he might be able to pull that off. Would generate decent revenue for the FCS games, even if the crowd was poor.
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I think you'd see the opposite effect - fewer tickets sold for the conference games.

These FCS games are early season games when the weather is fantastic and there is a lot of hope for the season. They'll sell plenty of tickets for those games.
 
Lt.Col.FrankSlade said:
If I was Bohn, I'd only allow season ticket sales for the Pac-12 games -- no single game purchases for those games. (Not including the visitor's tickets, of course.) Given the Pac-12 home games next season he might be able to pull that off. Would generate decent revenue for the FCS games, even if the crowd was poor.
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Over/under on number of ticket buyers that (a) weren't going to buy season tickets, (b) were going to buy a single game (or two) to a Pac-12 home game, and (c) would buy the season ticket package (including mandatory donation) if they can't buy single-game tickets? I'd say 9.5.
 
sackman said:
I think you'd see the opposite effect - fewer tickets sold for the conference games.

These FCS games are early season games when the weather is fantastic and there is a lot of hope for the season. They'll sell plenty of tickets at 4 for $40 for those games.
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Fixed.
 
whatthebuff said:
I agree. Watching a game against some d2 school with 45,000 half asleep fans is lame.
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I was at the Miami of Ohio and New Mexico State games, too. Of all my fond CU memories, neither game meant much.

Maybe that 42-0 blowout of MofO helped CU get some momentum for the OU win in 2007 and the Texas Tech on the road. But in the big picture, that's not much to hang your hat upon.

Cupcake schedules shouldn't be the answer to poor recruiting, bad special teams performance and undisciplined penalties.
 
wsp4820 said:
Over/under on number of ticket buyers that (a) weren't going to buy season tickets, (b) were going to buy a single game (or two) to a Pac-12 home game, and (c) would buy the season ticket package (including mandatory donation) if they can't buy single-game tickets? I'd say 9.5.
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I'll take the under.
 
Skidmark said:
I was at the Miami of Ohio and New Mexico State games, too. Of all my fond CU memories, neither game meant much.

Maybe that 42-0 blowout of MofO helped CU get some momentum for the OU win in 2007 and the Texas Tech on the road. But in the big picture, that's not much to hang your hat upon.

Cupcake schedules shouldn't be the answer to poor recruiting, bad special teams performance and undisciplined penalties.
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They are for damn near every rebuilding team. We get it, you want the 90's scheduling to last forever. Playing Miami(OH) helped us get to a bowl game, something we haven't done since. We need wins for confidence and wins to help us get to bowl games. I've repeated that many times but you don't seem to want to move out of the 90's scheduling pre-BCS era when you needed a tough OOC. We play in a BCS conference, we go to a bowl game with 6 wins and we're half way there in all likely hood with this OOC. That helps recruiting pick up and allows for Embree to be more successful. Tell me, why should we continue with these tough OOC schedules when they provide very low benefits.
 
i don't think Tulsa belongs on that list. they are a bowl team most years and would have beaten us most years over the last half decade. big difference between Tulsa and Northwestern State or Presbyterian.

i don't mind scaling back some with some pastry games, but automatically going FCS with it doesn't appeal.
 
Creatini said:
They are for damn near every rebuilding team. We get it, you want the 90's scheduling to last forever. Playing Miami(OH) helped us get to a bowl game, something we haven't done since. We need wins for confidence and wins to help us get to bowl games. I've repeated that many times but you don't seem to want to move out of the 90's scheduling pre-BCS era when you needed a tough OOC. We play in a BCS conference, we go to a bowl game with 6 wins and we're half way there in all likely hood with this OOC. That helps recruiting pick up and allows for Embree to be more successful. Tell me, why should we continue with these tough OOC schedules when they provide very low benefits.
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This line of thinking is fine for a 2-3 years, but I could do without seeing a FCS team on the schedule every year for the next decade. That would be pretty ******, no matter the spin.
 
Lt.Col.FrankSlade said:
If I was Bohn, I'd only allow season ticket sales for the Pac-12 games -- no single game purchases for those games. (Not including the visitor's tickets, of course.) Given the Pac-12 home games next season he might be able to pull that off. Would generate decent revenue for the FCS games, even if the crowd was poor.
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Hate. I live out of state now, but I want to come back for a game or two.
 
Boulder Buff said:
This line of thinking is fine for a 2-3 years, but I could do without seeing a FCS team on the schedule every year for the next decade. That would be pretty ******, no matter the spin.
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If it's the first game of the year, I've got no issues. Gives the team a game to shake off the rust and break in some new Freshman who will be playing. We don't need one every year, but we need to keep having easy OOC for the time being.

I can't imagine playing LSU in 2014 and 2015. Just seems like a death sentence right now.
 
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