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eaTme and Misery reach settlement with Big 12

Mizzou has the worst admin/AD in the country. Wow. They are lucky to be bailed out by the SEC.
 
Texas fans down here are angry saying it should be several million more. How greedy can you get?

Still a GREAT move by both schools to get out of the Big 12.
 
NMBuff said:
Mizzou has the worst admin/AD in the country. Wow. They are lucky to be bailed out by the SEC.
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I'll have to disagree with that - since Missouri is switching to the SEC - if you are a Mizzo basketball season ticket holder, you will starting next year, have to contribute to the athletic fund before you can purchase your season tickets. Kansas has had this policy for years and years. I have friends who now pay $50,000 to the athletic fund to sit in the bottom bowl of seats at Allen field house. That's in addition to the cost of the season tickets. It's also the reason KU has a Top 10 basketball team every year. Like it or not $ talks, and you get what you pay for. Mizzo athletics produce $ revenue, that's what a AD is supposed to do. Their basketball made over $4 million. Winning is the coach's responsibility. CU is $2 million ahead of Mizzo in football, so Bohn is also doing what he is supposed to do- make money. MU is going to make much more in the $EC, excellent move by the admin/AD.
http://businessofcollegesports.com/...ketball-programs-produce-the-largest-profits/
 
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This from the Houston Chronicle this morning:

COLLEGE STATION – From the start of Texas A&M’s eventual departure from the Big 12 and into the Southeastern Conference, A&M officials said observers should keep in mind what Nebraska paid on its way out of the league. That proved accurate Tuesday, according to A&M.
A&M said the Big 12 buyout will be $9.31 million, almost exactly the same as Nebraska’s $9.255 million last year on its way to the Big Ten. The Big 12 on Tuesday announced A&M’s buyout as $12.41 million, but an A&M official said the actual number is $9.31 million, once items like direct payments from the NCAA, bowl payouts, conference office expenses and officiating reimbursements are factored in.
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Why would they want to pay what NU paid? I think we paid less than that, no?
 
77buff said:
I'll have to disagree with that - since Missouri is switching to the SEC - if you are a Mizzo basketball season ticket holder, you will starting next year, have to contribute to the athletic fund before you can purchase your season tickets. Kansas has had this policy for years and years. I have friends who now pay $50,000 to the athletic fund to sit in the bottom bowl of seats at Allen field house. That's in addition to the cost of the season tickets. It's also the reason KU has a Top 10 basketball team every year. Like it or not $ talks, and you get what you pay for. Mizzo athletics produce $ revenue, that's what a AD is supposed to do. Their basketball made over $4 million. Winning is the coach's responsibility. CU is $2 million ahead of Mizzo in football, so Bohn is also doing what he is supposed to do- make money. MU is going to make much more in the $EC, excellent move by the admin/AD.
http://businessofcollegesports.com/...ketball-programs-produce-the-largest-profits/
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Leaving for the SEC was a great move. But they were bailed out by the SEC. They didn't handle that transition well. They prematurely tried to leave the Big12 for the Big10 and did so publicly. They had egg on their face since the Big10 didn't want them. They still also paid more than Aggy and Aggy is a bigger name in sports with a larger following (even though they haven't accomplished much in forever). They'll be better off in the SEC since it's more stable and pays more, but I'm just shocked at how crappy they handled this situation.

For once, our admin did it right. We didn't pay that much to leave the Big12 and didn't announce anything until we left.
 
NMBuff said:
Leaving for the SEC was a great move. But they were bailed out by the SEC. They didn't handle that transition well. They prematurely tried to leave the Big12 for the Big10 and did so publicly. They had egg on their face since the Big10 didn't want them. They still also paid more than Aggy and Aggy is a bigger name in sports with a larger following (even though they haven't accomplished much in forever). They'll be better off in the SEC since it's more stable and pays more, but I'm just shocked at how crappy they handled this situation.

For once, our admin did it right. We didn't pay that much to leave the Big12 and didn't announce anything until we left.
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It's a win situation for the $EC - they pick up 2 major TV markets in the Kansas City and St. Louis area, plus a top rated basketball program which makes money.
 
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This from the Houston Chronicle this morning:


COLLEGE STATION – From the start of Texas A&M’s eventual departure from the Big 12 and into the Southeastern Conference, A&M officials said observers should keep in mind what Nebraska paid on its way out of the league. That proved accurate Tuesday, according to A&M.
A&M said the Big 12 buyout will be $9.31 million, almost exactly the same as Nebraska’s $9.255 million last year on its way to the Big Ten. The Big 12 on Tuesday announced A&M’s buyout as $12.41 million, but an A&M official said the actual number is $9.31 million, once items like direct payments from the NCAA, bowl payouts, conference office expenses and officiating reimbursements are factored in.
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Why would they want to pay what NU paid? I think we paid less than that, no?
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Yeah, we paid the least to escape that rat-infested, grime-riddled, sleazy, sinking ship.
 
RedDirtBuff said:
Yeah, we paid the least to escape that rat-infested, grime-riddled, sleazy, sinking ship.
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I know a bunch of people have an issue with Bohn's performance as AD, but his ability to get us in the PAC-12, and at a substantial discount from what was threatened by the Big 12, is worth a bunch of "get out of jail free" cards in my book.
 
SpacemanSpiff said:
I know a bunch of people have an issue with Bohn's performance as AD, but his ability to get us in the PAC-12, and at a substantial discount from what was threatened by the Big 12, is worth a bunch of "get out of jail free" cards in my book.
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Bohn "or any AD for that matter" will never be able to please all of the masses all of the time. But to your point, getting into the PAC 12 with all of the expected new $$$ coming CU's way is close to being priceless.
 
Hugegroove said:
Bohn "or any AD for that matter" will never be able to please all of the masses all of the time. But to your point, getting into the PAC 12 with all of the expected new $$$ coming CU's way is close to being priceless.
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Bohn has done a good job making money for CU - that's all he is supposed to do as an athletic director - bottom line.
 
I'd hate our athletic department to be as terribly-run as Missouri's. I mean, just look at their football and basketball teams compared to ours...

Fans want to see their teams win. Money facilitates wins, ostensibly, so fans care about money as a conduit for wins. To say that only money is important is to change the criteria for success because it casts CU in a more favorable light at the current moment.

Bohn has done a good job running the AD, for the most part, outside of the fact that our major teams haven't been successful while he has been here. If you don't think that the on-field success of the major programs is a component of an AD's responsibilities, I believe that there is some significant evidence to the contrary.

As BB suggested, however, attempting to divorce money and wins is silly. They go hand-in-hand.
 
Bohn = maybe got us the invite to the PAC.
Bohn = Kowtowing to the MAC conference.
Bohn = Sunday game and then Thursday game.
Bohn = 13 games no bye week.
Bohn = CSU's bitch.

I don't dislike Bohn as much as some people here but to say he has been great might be a little hyperbolic.
 
CU in the PAC has a lot more to with Larry Scott's vision than anything Bohn did. They needed two teams and we've always been on their radar (and for goodness sakes, they took Utah). Bohn should get credit for not screwing it up, but after that, where are the (football) wins? Now that we're in the PAC, the money is going to be there no matter how many games we lose - our revenue will be less without bowl and national tv appearances, but that's a lot less than other revenues. So no, divorcing money from wins is not silly. FWIW, I think we're on the right track in football, but we have yet to see the results on the field.
 
Agree to disagree. Based on what I think is very reliable info, Mike Bohn played a LARGE part in getting us to the PAC. And even if you don't believe that, he clearly responded to Baylor's slander campaign correctly. While many were calling for a publicity blitzkrieg, he worked behind the scenes with Larry Scott and the PAC ADs to put us in position to get the invite. I'm with you on a few of the other issues but not this one.
 
Boulder Buff said:
At some point, you cannot separate making money and winning games.
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If you're saying that at some point, it doesn't matter what you do, unless you win you'll never increase revenues, then I totally agree. I think this is probably Bohn's biggest weakness. However, I also believe he's done a fantastic job of running the department. He's more accessable and visible than any of his predecessors. Stuff like sending 50 students to the P12 tournament, facilities improvements, fundraising, community relations, etc. All that stuff is important, and he's done a good job at all of it. The winning part is all that has alluded him up until now, and that even seems to be improving - particularly with the basketball program.
 
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sackman said:
If you're saying that at some point, it doesn't matter what you do, unless you win you'll never increase revenues, then I totally agree. I think this is probably Bohn's biggest weakness. However, I also believe he's done a fantastic job of running the department. He's more accessable and visible than any of his predecessors. Stuff like sending 50 students to the P12 tournament, facilities improvements, fundraising, community relations, etc. All that stuff is important, and he's done a good job at all of it. The winning part is all that has alluded him up until now, and that even seems to be improving - particularly with the basketball program.
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Exactly what I was getting at with my post. Five years from now, if Mike Bohn is still at CU, it will as a result of us winning consistently in football and basketball. The conference move and the coming increased revenues are nice, but fans are going to want wins in the high profile sports sooner rather than later.

FWIW, I am still on the fence when it comes to Bohn.
 
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Agree to disagree. Based on what I think is very reliable info, Mike Bohn played a LARGE part in getting us to the PAC. And even if you don't believe that, he clearly responded to Baylor's slander campaign correctly. While many were calling for a publicity blitzkrieg, he worked behind the scenes with Larry Scott and the PAC ADs to put us in position to get the invite. I'm with you on a few of the other issues but not this one.
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I'm just Joe fan with no inside information, just an opinion based on our history and the logic presented earlier. I don't doubt he worked hard behind the scenes to actually make it happen, but I think he would have had to screw up royally to get us disinvited. From my point of view, he did admirably at turning the crank. Do your sources claim we were a hard sell (especially compared, say, to Utah)?
 
Bohn has us winning in men's basketball at this point but I wonder if that is a byproduct of being a KU grad.

I hope he isn't taking the continued fan support as a message that medicority is acceptable in Boulder for football. But given that basketball is taking off with the new facilities, it's high time the investment is made in football. If the new indoor practice facility gets built plus the east side is filled out, it will make it much easier to win at CU. Just remember what the Dal Ward Center did to CU football back then.

Once that practice facility gets built for football, I think we won't be discussing Bohn's job security like we are discussing right now. I think Bohn is in for the long term at CU so you might as well get used to it.
 
rockybison said:
The PAC took utah
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