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ESPN: Colorado has key test

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Nice article by Dana O'Neil on the importance of the upcoming CU-UO game to the conference race and who will challenge UA for the driver's seat in the Pac-12.

The wild card is Colorado, a team every bit as capable of co-piloting or even driving the league.

That wasn’t supposed to happen. When the Buffs joined the Pac-12, they were another realignment geography punchline, a Rocky Mountain addition to a coast-hugging conference. The move was made, as all realignment moves were and are made, for football. Basketball didn’t even move the needle, let alone create an impact.

And yet here we are. Thanks to Tad Boyle and Spencer Dinwiddie (still top five best names in college basketball), the Buffaloes are a legit Pac-12 threat. They won the league tourney two years ago and merited an at-large NCAA berth last year.

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Big game. A win, might push CU close to the Top 15. Oregon, while talented, hasn't went up against a team as talented as CU yet. This should be a game that the Buffs win.

I do think them playing an OT game @Utah, helps the Buffs chances.
 
Does Oregon know how to play a zone? If they do, then I'm worried about this game.
 
cubuffs85 said:
How many games do we have left of equal or more importance than this one?
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Home game against a top 25 team, and a top team in our conference. Beat teams at home and the road games become less important. This game should be viewed right along the Arizona game. Only increases if we get gameday.
 
This, the UCLA and UA games are all extremely important, IMO. The two road games in the Bay are important, too. Win both of those and we're probably looking at a top five seed or better in the tournament. We don't get those guys at home, so the road games will be crucial.

I'll also throw out Utah. They're playing really well right now. I don't think the 2 pt loss to UO was a fluke. They're legit. And that's good. It'll make the Mountain swing that much tougher for the rest of the Pac.
 
sackman said:
This, the UCLA and UA games are all extremely important, IMO. The two road games in the Bay are important, too. Win both of those and we're probably looking at a top five seed or better in the tournament. We don't get those guys at home, so the road games will be crucial.

I'll also throw out Utah. They're playing really well right now. I don't think the 2 pt loss to UO was a fluke. They're legit. And that's good. It'll make the Mountain swing that much tougher for the rest of the Pac.
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Utah is going to struggle with depth against the top PAC 12 teams

@TZiskBuff: My biggest concern with #Utah going forward...they had 4 players play 38+ mins last night, that's not sustainable for 18 game #Pac12 slate
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btbuff said:
Home game against a top 25 team, and a top team in our conference. Beat teams at home and the road games become less important. This game should be viewed right along the Arizona game. Only increases if we get gameday.
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Arizona should be a bigger game even without GameDay, bigger audience (yes without GameDay) since there's no football and it's not at some unreasonable time.
 
I just don't want to hear how every game during conference play is a "big game," "must win," huge. It diminishes it when it actually is that.
 
Rank the games in terms of importance
Thu,Jan 02
Oregon StateBoulder, CO8:00 p.m.W, 64-58ESPNU ▪ 850 KOA ▪ Notes ▪ Quotes ▪ Tickets ▪ Stats
Sun,Jan 05
OregonBoulder, CO3:00 p.m.FOX Sports 1 ▪ 850 KOA ▪ Live Audio ▪ Live Audio ▪ Tickets
Wed,Jan 08
Washington StateSpokane, WA7:00 p.m.Pac-12 Networks ▪ 850 KOA ▪ Live Audio
Sun,Jan 12
Washingtonat Seattle, WA1:00 p.m.FOX Sports 1 ▪ AM 760 ▪ Live Audio
Thu,Jan 16
UCLABoulder, CO6:00 p.m.Pac-12 Networks ▪ 850 KOA
Sat,Jan 18
USCBoulder, CO12:00 p.m.FOX Sports 1 ▪ 850 KOA ▪ Tickets
Thu,Jan 23
Arizonaat Tucson, AZ7:00 p.m.ESPN2 ▪ 850 KOA
Sat,Jan 25
Arizona Stateat Tempe, AZ5:00 p.m.Pac-12 Networks ▪ 850 KOA
Sat,Feb 01
UtahBoulder, CO12:00 p.m.Pac-12 Networks ▪ 850 KOA ▪ Tickets
Wed,Feb 05
Washington StateBoulder, CO7:30 p.m.Pac-12 Networks ▪ 850 KOA ▪ Tickets
Sun,Feb 09
WashingtonBoulder, CO6:00 p.m.ESPNU ▪ 850 KOA ▪ Tickets
Thu,Feb 13
UCLAat Los Angeles, CA7:00 p.m.ESPN or ESPN2 ▪ 850 KOA
Sun,Feb 16
USCat Los Angeles, CA6:00 p.m.ESPNU ▪ 850 KOA
Wed,Feb 19
Arizona StateBoulder, CO9:00 p.m.ESPNU ▪ 850 KOA ▪ Tickets
Sat,Feb 22
ArizonaBoulder, COTBAESPN or ESPN2 ▪ 850 KOA
Sat,Mar 01
Utahat Salt Lake City, UT12:00 p.m.Pac-12 Networks ▪ 850 KOA
Wed,Mar 05
Stanfordat Stanford, CA7:00 p.m.ESPN2 ▪ 850 KOA
Sat,Mar 08
Californiaat Berkeley, CA4:30 p.m.Pac-12 Networks ▪ 850 KOA
 
cubuffs85 said:
I just don't want to hear how every game during conference play is a "big game," "must win," huge. It diminishes it when it actually is that.
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Why wouldn't you look at every game that way? Yes some are bigger than others but they're all still big games.


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My Ranking
1) Arizona
2) Oregon
3) UCLA
4)@Arizona
5) Arizona St
6) @Stanford
7) @ Cal
8) @Arizona St
9) Utah
10-11) Washington (home or away)
12) @UCLA
13) USC
14) @Utah
15) @USC
16-17) Washington St (home or away)

Really just me throwing the list out there. Maybe ranked the Arizona state games too high.
 
'Tini said:
Why wouldn't you look at every game that way? Yes some are bigger than others but they're all still big games.


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Because when every game is a "big game," it doesn't differentiate them from the others. I don't have the same interest in playing Wazzu in Spoakane as I do playing UofA with GameDay there. Not every game needs to be labeled as "huge." Some games just aren't as relevant and you can still get up for them.
 
It's a big game in the sense it is two Top 20 teams facing off. It's an opportunity for CU to get some great press for the team and perhaps, at least with some people, to solidify the Buffs as the biggest threat to Arizona.

Every home game is important, and you don't want to lose any game... but I'd say this is the 2nd most important home game of the Conference slate. Not going to have many opportunities to knock off a Top 25 team, and this is one. Not a must win if the goal is to make the tournament, but if you want to compete for the Pac-12 title, this is a game you need to win.
 
rolandftw said:
It's a big game in the sense it is two Top 20 teams facing off. It's an opportunity for CU to get some great press for the team and perhaps, at least with some people, to solidify the Buffs as the biggest threat to Arizona.

Every home game is important, and you don't want to lose any game... but I'd say this is the 2nd most important home game of the Conference slate. Not going to have many opportunities to knock off a Top 25 team, and this is one. Not a must win if the goal is to make the tournament, but if you want to compete for the Pac-12 title, this is a game you need to win.
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First time two ranked Pac-12(then Pac-10) teams have met since 2009, so yeah I'd say this is important one, just hope I don't hear that with every game this year. There's no "must wins" at this point. Given their OOC schedule they built a cushion. And if you want to talk about seeding, anything from 7-10 is practically the same anyways. 5-6 is better but not a world of difference. Top 4 is where it starts to matter with the pod system. So to reiterate, no I'm not just happy making the tournament, but anything can really happen once you are in, it's really not the most fair system in the world but it is what it is.

No I wouldn't say every home game is "important." Just saying that diminishes the home games that really are like UCLA (UofA is "huge" and Oregon is "big.")
 
cubuffs85 said:
First time two ranked Pac-12(then Pac-10) teams have met since 2009, so yeah I'd say this is important one, just hope I don't hear that with every game this year. There's no "must wins" at this point. Given their OOC schedule they built a cushion. And if you want to talk about seeding, anything from 7-10 is practically the same anyways. 5-6 is better but not a world of difference. Top 4 is where it starts to matter with the pod system. So to reiterate, no I'm not just happy making the tournament, but anything can really happen once you are in, it's really not the most fair system in the world but it is what it is.

No I wouldn't say every home game is "important." Just saying that diminishes the home games that really are like UCLA (UofA is "huge" and Oregon is "big.")
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Sorry, but I don't want anything to do with an 8/9 seed
 
sackman said:
This, the UCLA and UA games are all extremely important, IMO. The two road games in the Bay are important, too. Win both of those and we're probably looking at a top five seed or better in the tournament. We don't get those guys at home, so the road games will be crucial.

I'll also throw out Utah. They're playing really well right now. I don't think the 2 pt loss to UO was a fluke. They're legit. And that's good. It'll make the Mountain swing that much tougher for the rest of the Pac.
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I agree about Utah. Krystowiak is a really good coach. I saw what he did with Montana and he's doing the same with the utes. They will be a top tier program by next year and beat some teams this year that nobody expected.

i think we'll roll Oregon this weekend, our out of conference schedule will pay dividends.
 
cubuffs85 said:
First time two ranked Pac-12(then Pac-10) teams have met since 2009, so yeah I'd say this is important one, just hope I don't hear that with every game this year. There's no "must wins" at this point. Given their OOC schedule they built a cushion. And if you want to talk about seeding, anything from 7-10 is practically the same anyways. 5-6 is better but not a world of difference. Top 4 is where it starts to matter with the pod system. So to reiterate, no I'm not just happy making the tournament, but anything can really happen once you are in, it's really not the most fair system in the world but it is what it is.

No I wouldn't say every home game is "important." Just saying that diminishes the home games that really are like UCLA (UofA is "huge" and Oregon is "big.")
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I think there's a big difference between 4-6, and 8-9. Would much rather face a #2 or #3 seed in the second game then a #1 seed. Obviously getting a 4/5 seed is better.

Establishing home court dominance is very important, especially when CU has one of the better home court advantages in the conference. There's more important games, against ranked teams but taking a home loss to a bad team kinda negates the big home win. Ideally, you don't want to lose any of them, if the goal is competing for a Conference title.
 
rolandftw said:
I think there's a big difference between 4-6, and 8-9. Would much rather face a #2 or #3 seed in the second game then a #1 seed. Obviously getting a 4/5 seed is better.

Establishing home court dominance is very important, especially when CU has one of the better home court advantages in the conference. There's more important games, against ranked teams but taking a home loss to a bad team kinda negates the big home win. Ideally, you don't want to lose any of them, if the goal is competing for a Conference title.
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Well yeah, I was thinking about first round games, I mean you know something we've only won twice in like 50 years?

Winning road games is actually more important than winning home games, all things being equal since there's no home games in the tourney. No single game is going to likely move us up or down by entire seed (or four spots on the S-curve).
 
'Tini said:
Being an 8/9 seed would take a bit of a collapse
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Yeah at this point, but we just finished our first conference game. I know how high you are on this team. I try to be levelheaded about this stuff. You won't see me overreact too much to a single win or loss.
 
cubuffs85 said:
Well yeah, I was thinking about first round games, I mean you know something we've only won twice in like 50 years?

Winning road games is actually more important than winning home games, all things being equal since there's no home games in the tourney. No single game is going to likely move us up or down by entire seed (or four spots on the S-curve).
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Not saying CU is a lock to win their first game, just you want to be seeded where you have the best chance to go on a tourney run. That is not likely to be a 8/9 seed, although it did happen last year. You want to see them do well on the road as well, but realistically it is hard to see more then 4 or 5 road conference wins. The most likely path to 12/13 conference wins is going 8-1 or 9-0 at home.
 
rolandftw said:
Not saying CU is a lock to win their first game, just you want to be seeded where you have the best chance to go on a tourney run. That is not likely to be a 8/9 seed, although it did happen last year. You want to see them do well on the road as well, but realistically it is hard to see more then 4 or 5 road conference wins. The most likely path to 12/13 conference wins is going 8-1 or 9-0 at home.
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I think 8-1 is more likely, even two home losses wouldn't be horrible. We saw last night nothing is easy and I was more than confident that we were going to win the game.
 
No easy road wins in the pac12 anymore. Hell there aren't many easy home wins. Well maybe WSU. After watching ASU get kicked around at home by what we thought was the worst team in the conference, the buffs better be ready to bring a good effort every night.
 
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