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ESPN Non-Con Schedule Analysis - Pac-12

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Toughest: Puerto Rico Tip-Off (Nov. 17-20)
Next-toughest: Georgia (Nov. 28), at Colorado State (Nov. 30)
The rest: Fort Lewis College (Nov. 11), at Air Force (Nov. 23), Fresno State (Dec. 7), Wyoming (Dec. 9), CSU Bakersfield (Dec. 19), Texas Southern (Dec. 22), New Orleans (Dec. 28)
Toughness scale (1-10): 2 -- Colorado was one of the last two or three teams to miss out on the NCAA tournament last season, largely because its late run in the Big 12 couldn't eclipse a horrid nonconference RPI in the eyes of the committee. For CU's sake, let's hope this year's tourney bid -- or lack thereof -- is a bit more cut and dry. The good news? The Puerto Rico Tip-Off tips off (ahem) with Wichita State, the Missouri Valley co-favorite and a possible top-25 team, and the rest of the field includes Alabama, Maryland (CU's possible second-round matchups), Iona, Purdue, Temple and Western Michigan. There's some quality in there, and Colorado would be advised to take advantage of it. Because the rest of this schedule is avert-your-eyes bad.
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Honestly, I'm not sure it's a 2 on the toughness scale as PR should easily knock it up to a 3 or 4 by itself, but overall it's pretty fair. I like the direction we're heading in non-con scheduling. Get two or three "big" games and then fill the rest with teams that don't hurt your RPI.

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebask.../36310/nonconference-schedule-analysis-pac-12
 
It asppears as if we got this year's football and basketball schedules. Mixed up. Bohn: football gets easy schedule, basketball get more challenging schedule.
 
HouBuff said:
It asppears as if we got this year's football and basketball schedules. Mixed up. Bohn: football gets easy schedule, basketball get more challenging schedule.
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Bohn doesn't do the basketball schedules. The coaches are responsible for them outside of long-term contracts like we have with local programs (and Tad wanted) or special cases where Bohn would be able to get a basketball series as a kicker if we agreed to a home & home in football with another BCS program (ex. Georgia).
 
Honestly, if we're talking about benefiting the team, I can't think of a better non-conference schedule. I would have liked to have another game or so before Puerto Rico, but that just wasn't possible. It's pretty realistic for us to get out of non-con with a 9-3 or 8-4 record which should build the team's confidence a bit and allow them to gel before conference play starts. Now if we're talking about keeping the attendance from last season rolling, the schedule kind of sucks. Both CSU & AFA are on the road, so we don't get regional fans (I'm not sure Wyoming will travel here really). Georgia is the only "name" on the schedule. I'm really hoping that we can find a nice balance next season between wins and "star value".

Oh, and one thing that people haven't discussed yet? Our Pac-12 schedule starts about as perfectly as it could. First three games are all at the Foam Dome, and we get Utah (who will probably be a bottom 3 team in conference), Wazzu (same) and then a tourney team in Washington. A 2-1 conference start is VERY realistic.
 
If this year's schedule is a "2" (avert-your-eyes bad), then last year's must have been a "-6"!! Tad inherited part of this schedule, and was kind of boxed-in a little in his abilities to beef it up. Scheduling Ft Lewis before going to Puerto Rico - while not a sexy opponent - is a good thing so that the team has at least a little live-game action under their belt before facing Wichita State and the others. With a young team (at least in terms of playing time), it's probably good that we have an easier schedule. As Tad gets this thing going, we'll be able to upgrade the OOC a bit and avoid the bubble disaster in future years.
 
Goose said:
Oh, and one thing that people haven't discussed yet? Our Pac-12 schedule starts about as perfectly as it could. First three games are all at the Foam Dome, and we get Utah (who will probably be a bottom 3 team in conference), Wazzu (same) and then a tourney team in Washington. A 2-1 conference start is VERY realistic.
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The problem is, all 3 of those games are over break. No student section, and limited band. I'm trying to get an alumni band together to boost the numbers and sound, but I'm struggling to pick up parts. Bottom line, I expect the atmosphere for our first 3 pac-12 games to be muted at best.

****ing students: never leave Boulder!
 
RedDirtBuff said:
I wonder what kind of promotions they'll run for those first 3 conf games. Gotta do something to get butts in the seats.
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The first Pac 12 game is against Utah on 12/31. They could take the same approach that Baylor did many years ago when they started the season at home against CU and committed to filling their stadium. I believe one of the promotions they ran was to sell blocks of tickets to businesses (at a discount) who then gave them out to their customers. If I remember correctly Baylor packed the house and beat a better CU team to start their season off right with the help of the fans.
 
I think the schedule is good. Having such an inexperienced scoring team we are going to need some simple games if we are going to figure it out. Seems like a good entry into PAC-12 play.
 
RumblinBuff said:
The problem is, all 3 of those games are over break. No student section, and limited band. I'm trying to get an alumni band together to boost the numbers and sound, but I'm struggling to pick up parts. Bottom line, I expect the atmosphere for our first 3 pac-12 games to be muted at best.

****ing students: never leave Boulder!
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If we could tap into the same people who showed up for the NIT games last year (while the students were on break), we could be fine on attendance/atmosphere. I'm most worried that the Utah game - on New Year's Eve - could be an attendance bust.
 
not sure i'd agree, somewhat OT, that we had a "late run" in conference since we lost to ISU in the last week of the season and to ATM at home late in the slate. win either of those we are in the NCAA imo. our best W's, outside KSU twice late in the year (at home, in conf tourny***), in conference with MU, UT, and the road W at KSU. all in the first half of the season. the horrible loss at OU was also in the 2nd half of the season IIRC as well.

beating the Cats and Pullen 3 times was nice, but beating the same team over and over didn't help us with the "committee", apparently.
 
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Mick Ronson said:
not sure i'd agree, somewhat OT, that we had a "late run" in conference since we lost to ISU in the last week of the season and to ATM at home late in the slate. win either of those we are in the NCAA imo. our best W's, outside KSU twice late in the year (at home, in conf tourny***), in conference with MU, UT, and the road W at KSU. all in the first half of the season. the horrible loss at OU was also in the 2nd half of the season IIRC as well.

beating the Cats and Pullen 3 times was nice, but beating the same team over and over didn't help us with the "committee", apparently.
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yeah losing the isu game was a killer.
 
Mick Ronson said:
not sure i'd agree, somewhat OT, that we had a "late run" in conference since we lost to ISU in the last week of the season and to ATM at home late in the slate. win either of those we are in the NCAA imo. our best W's, outside KSU twice late in the year (at home, in conf tourny***), in conference with MU, UT, and the road W at KSU. all in the first half of the season. the horrible loss at OU was also in the 2nd half of the season IIRC as well.
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I remember turning to my (then) girlfriend at the Mizzou game and saying "this could be the beginning of something special." It turns out I was right, but I can see how she misunderstood what I was talking about.
 
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