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George's BHAG for FB by 2016
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It starts with the 2014 class being better than advertised. 2015 must be an unexpected level of talent at key areas. The recruiting boost from the facilities announcement will help and if we can get to a bowl game that will also help. Winning the south in 2016 would be a huge upset of the current power structure in the Pac-12
Lt.Col.FrankSlade
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I say no ****ing way this happens.
boydbuff
Club Member
I agree it is not likely but I do believe in the concept of BHAGs (big hair audacious goals) b/c it sets a stretch goal for everyone. Players, coaches, fans, recruits and donors. He is saying we are aiming very high and we should.
If we come just short not too many people will be calling for anyone's head on a platter. But if we don't even sniff it than things need to change.
Lt.Col.FrankSlade
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Just sets the coach up for failure, IMO.
If this team is 6-6 and going to a bowl game by 2016, fans should be thrilled.
If this team is 6-6 and going to a bowl game by 2016, fans should be thrilled.
holy god, we've fallen and we can't get up.
thrilled with .500 and the weedwacker bowl...
that used to be a hugely disappointing season for us.
not saying you are wrong, but i hate setting expectations this low.
I think it's more accurate to say we've fallen, and there are 11 other people who keep pushing us down. We have to tick them off one or two at a time.
Lt.Col.FrankSlade
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It's about REALISTIC expectations. Expecting this team to compete for the conference championship in the next 3 years is unrealistic right now. It will hopefully happen again someday soon. Just extremely questionable expecting it in the next three years. This team has only won 4 conference games over the past three years.
MacIntyre quickly turned around SJSU but they weren't play USC, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona State, Oregon, Stanford, Washington, etc. every year.
I think a solid goal this year is to have at least a .500 record at home and to sweep our Non-con. That puts us at 5-7. Win one on the road and boom bowl game.
Lt.Col.FrankSlade
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No. I don't. I don't think any of the other goals are unreasonable. I wouldn't change a thing about them. It's a fine line, to be sure. I don't think I'd be quite so specific about the goals for the football team at this juncture, though. It sounds an awful lot like "10 wins, no excuses". It may be splitting hairs, but I would have preferred he word it a little more softly. Something like "contending for a spot in the CCG by 2016". I know that takes a lot of the teeth out of the goals, but it also doesn't put him in a position to have to make a change if we're showing real improvement, but not actually playing in the CCG in 2016.
That's why he invented that Russian Elevator thing, amirite?
You're right. Why stop at 2016? Why not 2015? Why not next year? To do otherwise doesn't show an adequate commitment to winning, IMO.
IMO I love the goals that RG has laid out. He is raising the bar and letting it be known that the basement is no longer an option. Also, I am sure that HCMM will be graded based off the goals on an A-F scale. If by 2016 we are around third in the conference HCMM would receive a B/B-, if we are still in the basement an F, and so on. I don't think it is as drastic as "do this or fail".
You and I both know that there are a lot of unreasonable fans. Many of them on this site. 2016 rolls around and we're 6-6, going to the weedwacker bowl and have a recruiting class ranked somewhere in the 20's or 30's, and there will be people who say that we didn't hit that goal, MM has to go. I would spare RG that headache.
Any serious doner is a football fan and a fan of CU and likely not an idot. That individual knows damn well that CU is NOT going to be winning the Pac-12 by 2016. Set realistic goals. Setting a goal of a championship by the end of the decade, fine. The next three season, stupid.
While the buck stops with the head coach, this goal may pressure changes to other staff members if it isn't met.
Not a big deal.
Lt.Col.FrankSlade
Well-Known Member
Why put a specific timetable on it? Why 2016?
Why not come out and say, "We expect all of our athletic programs to compete for the Pac-12 championship every year"?
To me- this is putting a fork in Mike MacIntyre before he's even had a chance to show what he can do. Like sacky said - if the Buffs aren't in the conference championship game by 2016, RG's comments are going to bring out all the people who never wanted MacIntyre in the first place (AZ and his ilk - including some on this board) and they are going to start demanding changes, even if there is progress.
Why not come out and say, "We expect all of our athletic programs to compete for the Pac-12 championship every year"?
To me- this is putting a fork in Mike MacIntyre before he's even had a chance to show what he can do. Like sacky said - if the Buffs aren't in the conference championship game by 2016, RG's comments are going to bring out all the people who never wanted MacIntyre in the first place (AZ and his ilk - including some on this board) and they are going to start demanding changes, even if there is progress.
Why not 2016? Should CU football have goals ever again?