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Hope Oregon Wins Out

boydbuff

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After that wild game b/w A&M & Bama yesterday, looking at Bama's schedule I don't think they get beat this year (except a possibility in the SEC championship game).

I hope Oregon wins out and plays Bama in the NCG. Saban will fix some stuff but Manziel shredded Bama's D for 600+ yds yesterday. I think Oregon can give Bama a run for their money. As long as their D can get a handful of stops, they could outscore Bama.

How nice would that be for a Pac team to dethrone Saban & Co. (and the SEC)?
 
boydbuff said:
After that wild game b/w A&M & Bama yesterday, looking at Bama's schedule I don't think they get beat this year (except a possibility in the SEC championship game).

I hope Oregon wins out and plays Bama in the NCG. Saban will fix some stuff but Manziel shredded Bama's D for 600+ yds yesterday. I think Oregon can give Bama a run for their money. As long as their D can get a handful of stops, they could outscore Bama.

How nice would that be for a Pac team to dethrone Saban & Co. (and the SEC)?
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I 100% agree with the premise, **** Alabama, go PAC. However, I'd kind of prefer Oregon loses to, you know, us.
 
OUBuff said:
**** Oregon, as tired of them as I am of alabama
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I don't feel that way yet about Oregon since we have such a short history of being whipped by them and they have not been dominant for as long as Bama, and they are part of our conference instead of the SEC which gets all the attention.

Course I will be thrilled when we can be competitive with them and then I'll stop rooting for them.
 
I'd rather see Stanford win the PAC. Well, obviously, I'd rather it be CU, but that ain't gonna happen.
 
I'm not a Ducks fan. But they got screwed in 2001, and they got screwed last year (though not quite as bad). If we can't find a way to beat them (I understand that they will be 78 point favorites), then I'd root for them in the NC against any other team from any other conference.
 
Orr said:
I'm not a Ducks fan. But they got screwed in 2001, and they got screwed last year (though not quite as bad). If we can't find a way to beat them (I understand that they will be 78 point favorites), then I'd root for them in the NC against any other team from any other conference.
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I'm with you. I think the Pac 12 is not disrespected but most people east of the Rockies don't believe the Pac can beat the SEC in a NCG. In my opinion Oregon gives us our best chance. Would love for Oregon to start a new trend for the Pac, and then over the next few years Stanford, Oregon, UCLA get to and win the NCG regularly and sometime this decade we end up in the running.

Edit: I also feel that by any Pac 12 team winning the NCG we can begin to use in recruiting that the conference of champions is also building momentum to win the NCG as we head into the new tournament model. The SEC gets a ton of talent b/c there is a ton of talent in their footprint and because they can draw nationally based on the perceived dominance as THE power conference.
 
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People who want Oregon to win it all should be ashamed for themselves. I don't care if you hoped and rooted for Nebraska to go undefeated while you played in the BigXII.

You should NEVER root for Oregon to win it all. Their fans are already insufferable. The last thing they need is a MNC.

Shame on you!

CU, U$C, UCLA and Washington are the only schools that should ever win a football title from the Pac.

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Orr said:
I'm not a Ducks fan. But they got screwed in 2001, and they got screwed last year (though not quite as bad). If we can't find a way to beat them (I understand that they will be 78 point favorites), then I'd root for them in the NC against any other team from any other conference.
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This is the correct response.
 
DesertDawg526 said:
People who want Oregon to win it all should be ashamed for themselves. I don't care if you hoped and rooted for Nebraska to go undefeated while you played in the BigXII.

You should NEVER root for Oregon to win it all. Their fans are already insufferable. The last thing they need is a MNC.

Shame on you!

CU, U$C, UCLA and Washington are the only schools that should ever win a football title from the Pac.

:popcorn:
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USC can burn as far as I'm concerned.
 
GoonieBuff said:
USC can burn as far as I'm concerned.
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yah, I'd way prefer Oregon to win it all over USC. 2 reasons make that easy for me: 1.) USC has a long tradition of winning a lot and winning the recruiting battles in South Cali and beyond-them being down helps us recruit better; 2.) We are in the same division as USC and play them every year-we have a better chance of winning the South as long as they keep Kiffin around and/or refrain from being title contenders.
 
1. Helfrich is a shadow of Chip Kelly. Similar to Neuheisel's first two years, Oregon will run itself but the slow decline begins.
2. And Oregon has to play @Stanford and @Washington this year.
3. They pay for players, Phil Knight bought their success, and their fan base is all bandwagoners. Can't root for them.
 
What's in it for us? I'm honestly wondering how much of a benefit there is if some team in the conference does great. How much have Kentucky and Tennessee benefitted from the recent SEC dominance? What did Florida State's dominance of 90's do to benefit Maryland and Virginia? $$$, exposure, but how much trickles down?
 
CVilleBuff said:
What's in it for us? I'm honestly wondering how much of a benefit there is if some team in the conference does great. How much have Kentucky and Tennessee benefitted from the recent SEC dominance? What did Florida State's dominance of 90's do to benefit Maryland and Virginia? $$$, exposure, but how much trickles down?
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Well we don't have to hear how great the SEC is for another year. So there's that.
 
CVilleBuff said:
What's in it for us? I'm honestly wondering how much of a benefit there is if some team in the conference does great. How much have Kentucky and Tennessee benefitted from the recent SEC dominance? What did Florida State's dominance of 90's do to benefit Maryland and Virginia? $$$, exposure, but how much trickles down?
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Right now, we're fighting for PACN carriage. Huge financially for CU. Also, conference prestige will help recruiting, especially as we go outside the footprint (TX and elsewhere).
 
Want Oregon-Bama in the NC. Would be entertaining, but want Bama to win. We are one of the Pac 12 haves with an NC and Heisman, they are a have not. I want to keep it that way.
 
Buffnik said:
Right now, we're fighting for PACN carriage. Huge financially for CU. Also, conference prestige will help recruiting, especially as we go outside the footprint (TX and elsewhere).
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I do agree this is a critical time. There's a clear opening with the Big XII and B1G in states of disarray. We need to capitalize and cement ourselves as #2 and the main competitor to the SEC and not let this year be an aberration.
 
The problem with wanting Oregon to win out is that I have to live amongst the Duck faithful and they are insufferable as it is. Win a national title and it's really going to suck around here.

I do not think it is fair to compare Helfrich to Neu. Helfrich is much more humble than Neu ever was and I think he has a better vision of what he wants to do. Time will tell.
 
All good points and I'm torn (want Oregon to remain without a NC). Obviously I would prefer Stanford, but I don't think they get selected over Ohio State if all three (Bama, OSU, Stanford) win out. And I don't think Stanford could beat Bama. I do think the Ducks can. And this is THE LAST BCS Championship game. Ever. And I don't want it to be the SEC.
 
P12 winning a NC would be nice just to stop the SEC run on winning them. What is it, 7 in a row now? Kids are noticing, too. I hate seeing Ricky Town, a 5* 2015 CA QB, commit to Alabama. Kids love getting SEC offers because they see it as the minor leagues for the NFL.

Also, don't we get more money if a P12 team gets into the NC?
 
Argh. I hate this discussion, because I have never been one of the guys like all the SEC tools who root for the conference. I didn't root for kNU in the title game ever, or OU, or UT. I didn't want to see them win a title and hold that against us in recruiting.

I would like to never root for other Pac-12 teams either for the same reasons, and especially Oregon because they're Nike U/nouveau riche dickheads.

At the same time, I do agree that Oregon may well be the only team that can derail Bama. I don't see anyone else in the country doing it. (Shut up, Buckeye fans.) I definitely don't think Stanford or any other Pac-12 team can do it, and everyone in the nation outside of inbredland knows that the SEC must go down.
 
There's not too many teams I pull for Oregon against. I don't care what conference they're in, I'm not gonna pull for them to win the NC. Not once was I in the least bit pulling for Nebraska when they were playing in NC games in the late 90's and 2001 and they were representing CU's conference in those games.
 
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