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How do we match up with USC?
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Can we get pressure and defend the deep passing? Can we run the ball between the tackles? If we can do those things, we'll beat them like Utah just beat Stanford. Maybe worse.
BerkeleyBuff
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Worried their depth on the lines could wear us down. If their QB and receivers have an A+ game, not sure we can prevent enough big plays.
As is often the case with college football, momentum will be key, as will be our ability to come out in the second half with the same mindset we've shown the last few games. That will be harder to do on the road, but then again, we did just that in Lincoln.
But all in all, preseason I would have called this an almost sure loss. Now I feel like this is a very even matchup. Can't wait. Sko Buffs.
As is often the case with college football, momentum will be key, as will be our ability to come out in the second half with the same mindset we've shown the last few games. That will be harder to do on the road, but then again, we did just that in Lincoln.
But all in all, preseason I would have called this an almost sure loss. Now I feel like this is a very even matchup. Can't wait. Sko Buffs.
I put this in the score prediction thread, but I will put here as well, because I think this is hugely important as we move through the next few games.
This is the game, out of any other game that is on our schedule, that we need to get a great performance out of the balance of our WR group. USC has the athletes to play press man across the board and bracket Viska in an attempt to neutralize our biggest weapon. Chev needs to be creative in how he spaces the field to get these other guys open......I am hoping to see a HUGE stat line from at least one other WR, hopefully two. If we can effectively do this, we win. The ancillary affect of this is that UW will have a much harder time game planning for our offense.....understanding that you're damned if you do, and damned if you don't.
This is the game, out of any other game that is on our schedule, that we need to get a great performance out of the balance of our WR group. USC has the athletes to play press man across the board and bracket Viska in an attempt to neutralize our biggest weapon. Chev needs to be creative in how he spaces the field to get these other guys open......I am hoping to see a HUGE stat line from at least one other WR, hopefully two. If we can effectively do this, we win. The ancillary affect of this is that UW will have a much harder time game planning for our offense.....understanding that you're damned if you do, and damned if you don't.
Their secondary depth is actually quite thin, especially at Safety where brackets will come from typically. Viska beats double/triple coverage regularly and moves a lot in various pre-snap adjustments.
To me, this game is all about the OL run blocking and giving Montez time to diagnose and fire the bb’s. If we can do that and get pressure on Daniels, sky’s the limit.
Or secondary scares the crap out of me. And I don’t quite trust our tackling vs a “pound the rock” kind of attack. I think we’ve made some key stops, and our LBs tens tonbail is out, but against a team like USC, that’s what worries.
I do think our O can put up enough points to keep up. Although a better d-line than we have faced is a little concerning as well.
But in general (as I’ve posted previously) - I don’t know where the blatant “USC out/talents CU” comes from.
I do think our O can put up enough points to keep up. Although a better d-line than we have faced is a little concerning as well.
But in general (as I’ve posted previously) - I don’t know where the blatant “USC out/talents CU” comes from.
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Mismatch - CU has a monkey on its back that USC doesn’t want left behind at the Coliseum.
On paper, they’re a lot more talented than we are. But paper talent doesn’t always win football games.
SerenityBuff
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We have to pressure the young QB. If he gets time and starts to feel comfortable, their good WRs will tear our DBs apart.
Nor predict how utterly bad ****ing ass a wide receiver/h-back/TE/xxx is going to be.
Only if your "paper" is recruiting ranks instead of actual production in college games and NFL potential.
In other words, only an idot would take their linebackers over our collection of 3*s.
No argument there.
But, their recruiting rankings have consistently been much higher than ours. It’s pretty easy to see where the “they have more talent than we have” talk comes from.
The thing about Viska in the offense is Chev lines him up in almost every possible position, so it's nearly impossible to scheme him out of the game. Short of having their best CB literally follow him wherever he goes, along with bringing a Safety down to essentially do the same thing, defenses can't really scheme to him like a traditional WR who lines up outside every time. I'll give CSU, Nebraska and NH a pass because teams were just getting used to seeing how we use him, but neither Chip Kelly or Herm Edwards, with 3 and 4 games of film respectively, could devise a plan to even contain him. He's going to get his on Saturday, but I do agree that Montez may need to look for KD, JMac and Brown a little more often... Or even... *gasp* find Bounds for some completions!
Right. All I am saying is that Viska will continue to get as much attention as possible in an attempt to stop what seems to be our only major scoring threat. USC has more talent than ASU and UCLA.....so we will see if they can be effective in slowing down Viska (someone, at some point will slow him down). With that in mind, the balance of the skilled players on Offense need to be ready to make a big impact when they have the opportunity. I will additionally throw in that Montez might need to be ready to run a lot more in this game.
Lot of people underestimating the CU secondary. They are almost always in the right positions. Sometimes they don’t make good plays when the ball arrives, but Martinez and Wilkins both threw some long ball dimes. Our DBs are above average and may just surprise Saturday (and Sunday on the East Coast.)
Obviously, USC has good athletes across the board, but here are some positives that may play in CUs favor:
1. Their QB isn’t mobile, so that is a wrinkle CU will not need a ton of preparation for. Further, his accuracy is mediocre, at approximately 58%
2. Their defensive line hasn’t been that productive this year. Sacks and TFLs are way down from a year ago.
3. Their offensive line is still a work in progress, with some shuffling of players and injuries. Their center has had some snapping issues.
4. Their coach is Clay “soon to be fired” Helton.
1. Their QB isn’t mobile, so that is a wrinkle CU will not need a ton of preparation for. Further, his accuracy is mediocre, at approximately 58%
2. Their defensive line hasn’t been that productive this year. Sacks and TFLs are way down from a year ago.
3. Their offensive line is still a work in progress, with some shuffling of players and injuries. Their center has had some snapping issues.
4. Their coach is Clay “soon to be fired” Helton.
i really like viska in the slot. he's got the speed and size to hurt teams in the middle. we could use another guy besides kd (and viska of course) who can get behind the defense in a hurry. tony is playing really well but i don't think he has the top gear, nor does little mac. a healthy juwan could really take this offense up a level.
if we have juwan back, i think we have ourselves a big edge v. their secondary. heck, viska alone gives us an edge. and, i think we are far better, right now, than they are at qb.
their wideouts are big and fast and i do think we are going to have trouble covering all game.
i think we can negate some of their studliness on defense by limiting their ability to sub and going fast.
i think we can run on them.
all in all, i believe we have a good shot to win. there have been a lot of years we haven't been able to say that.
if we have juwan back, i think we have ourselves a big edge v. their secondary. heck, viska alone gives us an edge. and, i think we are far better, right now, than they are at qb.
their wideouts are big and fast and i do think we are going to have trouble covering all game.
i think we can negate some of their studliness on defense by limiting their ability to sub and going fast.
i think we can run on them.
all in all, i believe we have a good shot to win. there have been a lot of years we haven't been able to say that.
Wigley makes me nervous every time they throw it his way. Abrams, however, is a stud.
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Do we know if Winfree or Jackson is going to be available?
Bliff Cranch
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From today’s presser, it would seem Winfree is a ways off from contributing. Jackson looked ready in warmups before the ASU game.
They seem to have settled into a line up of Shenault, Brown, MacIntyre, Nixon, with a very little bit of Ento sprinkled in.
SuperiorBuff
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O vs D, duh.
ahoelsken
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The last time I sat down to watch them was their game against WSU, and Minshew carved them up that night. Their defensive backs are tremendous athletes, but what struck me were the mental mistakes-saw a number of missed coverages and guys not knowing what to do. Gardner Minshew made them pay, and Steven might be the best QB they'll see. He'll carve them up.
Jeric
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All I've ever heard from USC fans is that Bradford is a terrible coach and routinely ruins the talent they have back there. Moments like Winfree's plays against them last season are quite common for their secondary.
ahoelsken
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LOL Viska is going to go to town on Saturday against them.
Brett Fulton
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I don't think he is as good as some of the other DBs when it comes to locating the ball, but he was in position 3 or 4 times to defend a pass or get an int. A couple he was a split second late, or wasn't able to adjust in time, a couple the wr just made a great play. He is solid, not spectacular. That said if SC challenges him often I expect he will make some big plays.
Brett Fulton
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My main concern would be the speed of SC on both sides of the ball. If CU can play their "A" game in the first half and carry a lead into the break, I think that pressure, and hopefully a potent CU running game, will wear them down. In my mind a big key is if our offense can get first downs and keep their defense on the field. They will make mistakes and start to mail it in if we can get a lead and pound the rock.
What I really want to see is the offense to just keep doing what they are doing. Defense, get some turnovers, please.
Turnovers are always important, but I think we see a bunch of them in this game. Cu hasn't given one up or gotten one since New Hampshire. We are due in both ways.
Yep, it'll definitely happen, at some point. Just hope it's in our favor.