Key dates for 13-14 season?

[NashBuff]

I'm curious about when we should expect an announcement for CU's basketball schedule for next season? I'm thinking we would hear something in July or August.

When would practice begin as well?

I'm going to take the rest of spring and the entire summer off from football this year.

 

[Goose]

Usually find out July/August.

Should be this summer.

 

[Buffnik]

I would expect that the next thing we'd learn would be what early season tournament we're planning on winning.

 

[tante]

I would expect that the next thing we'd learn would be what early season tournament we're planning on winning.

Ugh you don't want to know who we are going to be playing. It sounds like a bunch of scrubs are just coming here.

 

[jgisland]

I would expect that the next thing we'd learn would be what early season tournament we're planning on winning.

In Thorburn's chat today.

They are hosting three small programs, including Arkansas State, in an exempt tournament. Wyoming will host the same three teams. And then the Wyoming game at CU will serve as the "championship" of whatever the tournament is called. In 2014-15 CU will play in the Diamond Head Classic in Honolulu.

 

[Buffnik]

In Thorburn's chat today.

They are hosting three small programs, including Arkansas State, in an exempt tournament. Wyoming will host the same three teams. And then the Wyoming game at CU will serve as the "championship" of whatever the tournament is called. In 2014-15 CU will play in the Diamond Head Classic in Honolulu.

The nice thing is that we'll get to see more games next year. Otherwise, it's not anything to get too excited about.

Arkansas State should be pretty good (Top 150 RPI) with what they return. I hope the other teams we play are also Top 200 programs.

Playing in the Diamond Head to start 2014 will be a nice selling point to recruits in the upcoming class. I'm very happy about that one. I may need to go out for that.

 

[wsp4820]

In Thorburn's chat today.

They are hosting three small programs, including Arkansas State, in an exempt tournament. Wyoming will host the same three teams. And then the Wyoming game at CU will serve as the "championship" of whatever the tournament is called. In 2014-15 CU will play in the Diamond Head Classic in Honolulu.

Operation Win Pac 12 Tournament: Commence!

 

[CVilleBuff]

In Thorburn's chat today.

They are hosting three small programs, including Arkansas State, in an exempt tournament. Wyoming will host the same three teams. And then the Wyoming game at CU will serve as the "championship" of whatever the tournament is called. In 2014-15 CU will play in the Diamond Head Classic in Honolulu.

So disappointing. I was worried about this as soon as I saw how full all the other tournaments are. This will do nothing positive for our RPI. Hope we schedule wisely in the rest, because we're going to need it if we want to be the beneficiary of a high OOC SOS. When Arkansas State is the "headline" opposition for a tournament (which they apparently are), there are issues. I dread beating up teams the caliber of Lamar and Maryland-Eastern Shore and seeing how that treats our RPI.

 

[Scotch]

The nice thing is that we'll get to see more games next year. Otherwise, it's not anything to get too excited about.

Arkansas State should be pretty good (Top 150 RPI) with what they return. I hope the other teams we play are also Top 200 programs.

Playing in the Diamond Head to start 2014 will be a nice selling point to recruits in the upcoming class. I'm very happy about that one. I may need to go out for that.

Hopefully we'll be back in Maui the season after that. Isn't 5 years the time span when teams can go back?

 

[Scotch]

So disappointing. I was worried about this as soon as I saw how full all the other tournaments are. This will do nothing positive for our RPI. Hope we schedule wisely in the rest, because we're going to need it if we want to be the beneficiary of a high OOC SOS. When Arkansas State is the "headline" opposition for a tournament (which they apparently are), there are issues. I dread beating up teams the caliber of Lamar and Maryland-Eastern Shore and seeing how that treats our RPI.

Probably need to add another KU type game in there. New Mexico comes to mind.

 

[Buffnik]

Hopefully we'll be back in Maui the season after that. Isn't 5 years the time span when teams can go back?

That sounds right. Honestly, though, I'd like to try to get to Puerto Rico, Paradise Jam, Battle 4 Atlantis and the Cancun Challenge too. All of them are nice tourneys in fun locations. The thing I don't like about Maui is that you can get a draw that puts you up against Chaminade and it gives you nothing for RPI.

 

[GoonieBuff]

That sounds right. Honestly, though, I'd like to try to get to Puerto Rico, Paradise Jam, Battle 4 Atlantis and the Cancun Challenge too. All of them are nice tourneys in fun locations. The thing I don't like about Maui is that you can get a draw that puts you up against Chaminade and it gives you nothing for RPI.

At least it doesn't hurt you, unlike bad draws in those other tournaments.

 

[Buffnik]

At least it doesn't hurt you, unlike bad draws in those other tournaments.

I think that might change. But one thing that hasn't been mentioned in the articles about DII schools being on the schedule is that the wins against them do not show up on the team sheets the selection committee gets. Granted, they look at RPI more than W/L so on balance it's better to schedule DII instead of RPI 250+ in the non-con, but I say to not do either. You can dramatically inflate RPI by scheduling in the 101-199 range for all opponents. You don't really have to play anyone, you just can't lose these games or have RPI killers on the schedule.

Speaking of that magic 101-199 range, here are the "juggernauts" that would have meant scheduling in 2012-13:

101	Nebraska		Big10
102	UCF	18-11	Cusa
103	Pacific	20-13	Bigw
104	Iona	20-14	Maac
105	Texas A&M	18-15	Sec
106	Illinois St.	18-15	Mvc
107	Boston College	16-17	Acc
108	West. Michigan	21-12	Midam
109	Tennessee St.	16-15	Ovc
110	Utah St.	20-10	Wac
111	Lehigh	20-10	Patr
112	Vanderbilt	16-17	Sec
113	Rutgers	15-16	Bige
114	Canisius	20-14	Maac
115	Dayton	17-14	Atl10
116	Mercer	22-12	Atsun
117	Florida Intl.	18-14	Sbelt
118	Murray St.	19-10	Ovc
119	USC	14-18	Pac12
120	Wright St.	22-12	Horiz
121	Robert Morris	24-11	0.5236
122	Long Beach St.	17-14	0.5234
123	Texas	16-17	0.5215
124	Mount St. Mary's	18-14	0.5209
125	Tulsa	16-16	0.5205
126	Purdue	16-18	0.5205
127	Princeton	16-11	0.5200
128	Niagara	19-14	0.5193
129	Albany	24-11	0.5191
130	Kent St.	20-14	0.5191
131	Wagner	19-12	0.5190
132	Seton Hall	15-18	0.5179
133	George Mason	20-14	0.5179
134	Oral Roberts	19-14	0.5171
135	UC Irvine	19-16	0.5169
136	TX Arlington	19-14	0.5168
137	Drake	14-17	0.5161
138	Western Ill.	20-9	0.5160
139	Vermont	21-12	0.5156
140	Delaware	19-14	0.5154
141	Rider	19-15	0.5150
142	Georgia	15-17	0.5147
143	St. Bonaventure	14-15	0.5139
144	UAB	15-17	0.5134
145	Fresno St.	9-19	0.5121
146	Jacksonville St.	15-11	0.5116
147	Geo. Washington	13-17	0.5116
148	Charleston	24-10	0.5112
149	Georgia Tech	16-15	0.5109
150	West. Kentucky	19-16	0.5102
151	South Florida	12-19	0.5101
152	N.C. Central	19-9	0.5093
153	Boston U.	17-13	0.5087
154	Towson	17-13	0.5085
155	Northeastern	20-13	0.5084
156	Utah	13-18	0.5083
157	West Virginia	13-19	0.5082
158	Lafayette	18-15	0.5068
159	San Diego	14-18	0.5050
160	South Alabama	16-13	0.5045
161	Arkansas St.	18-12	0.5040
162	Northwestern	13-19	0.5039
163	Cal Poly	16-14	0.5039
164	Wisc. Green Bay	17-16	0.5030
165	Oakland	14-17	0.5022
166	San Francisco	13-16	0.5018
167	Bryant	19-12	0.5016
168	Savannah St.	17-15	0.5007
169	James Madison	21-15	0.5007
170	Wake Forest	13-18	0.4999
171	Norfolk St.	21-12	0.4979
172	Virginia Tech	13-19	0.4967
173	Southern U.	20-10	0.4960
174	Tulane	19-15	0.4954
175	Fairfield	19-16	0.4949
176	Illinois-Chicago	17-16	0.4946
177	AR Little Rock	16-15	0.4946
178	Bradley	18-17	0.4942
179	Morehead St.	13-18	0.4939
180	Nevada	11-19	0.4929
181	Oregon St.	14-18	0.4924
182	Penn St.	10-21	0.4922
183	Elon	19-12	0.4920
184	Clemson	13-18	0.4907
185	Long Island	20-14	0.4901
186	Manhattan	14-18	0.4896
187	Texas Southern	17-14	0.4891
188	Southern Ill.	13-17	0.4881
189	Charleston S.	16-13	0.4872
190	Washington St.	13-19	0.4861
191	Youngstown St.	15-16	0.4852
192	Toledo	15-13	0.4848
193	Houston	19-13	0.4833
194	Hartford	17-14	0.4819
195	Quinnipiac	15-16	0.4818
196	Gardner-Webb	18-13	0.4791
197	Missouri State	9-22	0.4788
198	Idaho	11-18	0.4784
199	Yale	12-17	0.4773

That's where you make your RPI living. It's how the MWC and programs like So Miss inflate their RPIs. Schedule the 2nd tier of the WCC, MVC and C-USA. Mix in some upper tier Big West and WAC. That should be 2/3 of the OOC schedule.

 

[CVilleBuff]

Probably need to add another KU type game in there. New Mexico comes to mind.

New Mexico would be a great addition. Any over-inflated MWC team (UNLV, San Diego State, whatever). It's pretty crucial we find another "big" game, especially because CSU is due for a drop off as they lose 6 Seniors from this year.

 

[rynobuff]

I wish we could schedule St. Mary's or the Zags sometime in the near future in a home and home.

 

[Buffenuf]

I wish we could schedule St. Mary's or the Zags sometime in the near future in a home and home.

Zags would be a nice "get". They need to upgrade their sked as well. Same with St Mary's.

Or how about Wichita State? Tad's got some background, there but has been gone long enough (6-7 years?) for it not to matter.

"No" to the Lobos next year, they will be absolutely loaded, Top 5 and NC contender from the get-go, don't match up well with the Buffs(two seven footers and big PFs) and would likely demand the first game of a home-and-home in the Pit. Not sure an early blowout/physical beating loss, even to a high RPI team, would be helpful to the Buffs' psyche---they'll still be young, w/o benefit of a European trip. Start a series w/ them 2014/15.

Sub DU for AFA. Academy graduates 4 Sr starters, while DU returns all but one, from a decent lower mid-range RPI, 20-win team. Give R. Billups a chance to rep, too!

 

[Buffnik]

Zags would be a nice "get". They need to upgrade their sked as well. Same with St Mary's.

Or how about Wichita State? Tad's got some background, there but has been gone long enough (6-7 years?) for it not to matter.

"No" to the Lobos next year, they will be absolutely loaded, Top 5 and NC contender from the get-go, don't match up well with the Buffs(two seven footers and big PFs) and would likely demand the first game of a home-and-home in the Pit. Not sure an early blowout/physical beating loss, even to a high RPI team, would be helpful to the Buffs' psyche---they'll still be young, w/o benefit of a European trip. Start a series w/ them 2014/15.

Sub DU for AFA. Academy graduates 4 Sr starters, while DU returns all but one, from a decent lower mid-range RPI, 20-win team. Give R. Billups a chance to rep, too!

Rodney may be the reason we have not scheduled DU. Tad's very sensitive to trying not to schedule against kids that he and his staff have recruited elsewhere. We don't see Northern Colorado or Texas A&M on the schedule for this reason despite the great relationships our program has with them.