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Kill shot for Dana?

Holy ****... bad for UO if true. were they on any kind of AD-wide probation as a result of the Willie Lyles stuff?
 
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In mid-April, five weeks after the alleged incident, the Lane County District Attorney declined to file charges against any of the three
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this is what bugs me. So they don't have enough evidence to prosecute, but somehow student athletes are held to a higher standard than the law? I guess after what went down at CU, I am tired of the punish first, prosecute later mentality.
 
tante said:
this is what bugs me. So they don't have enough evidence to prosecute, but somehow student athletes are held to a higher standard than the law? I guess after what went down at CU, I am tired of the punish first, prosecute later mentality.
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Courtesy of Title IX, that is the standard at every college. Usually there is a hearing, and you can be expelled based on the preponderance of the evidence. A much lower standard than a criminal court.
 
tante said:
this is what bugs me. So they don't have enough evidence to prosecute, but somehow student athletes are held to a higher standard than the law? I guess after what went down at CU, I am tired of the punish first, prosecute later mentality.
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And at the same time on certain campuses (I won't mention one with a lot of red polyester) athletes are held to a much lower standard getting away with things that other students would end up in jail for.

The problem, and I have no solution, is how do we insure that student-athletes are treated in a comparable manner to the average student, not differently.
 
In mid-April, five weeks after the alleged incident, the Lane County District Attorney declined to file charges against any of the three
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In a hilarious twist, the prosecutor most likely declined because evidence was thin enough to not be a slam dunk in court, and trying this case could lower the conviction rate of the office. In the end, it's always about the numbers.
 
MtnBuff said:
And at the same time on certain campuses (I won't mention one with a lot of red polyester) athletes are held to a much lower standard getting away with things that other students would end up in jail for.

The problem, and I have no solution, is how do we insure that student-athletes are treated in a comparable manner to the average student, not differently.
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I believe this goes for everyone famous or semi-famous - nba/nfl, etc etc. See Rice, Raymell Mourice
 
wyobuff said:


In a hilarious twist, the prosecutor most likely declined because evidence was thin enough to not be a slam dunk in court, and trying this case could lower the conviction rate of the office. In the end, it's always about the numbers.
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So true, especially in a state where a particular school's athletics reins supreme over most other sports teams. You don't want to be the prosecutor who put what everyone loves on blast without knowing it's a guaranteed win.
 
tante said:
this is what bugs me. So they don't have enough evidence to prosecute, but somehow student athletes are held to a higher standard than the law? I guess after what went down at CU, I am tired of the punish first, prosecute later mentality.
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Almost any employment contract has a line about actions unbecoming of university. Your actions do not need to be criminal, if your employer feels that taint you them then your gone. The NFL, NBA are headed to have very strict rules, more strict than the penal code.

The police report from the incident shows disgusting, deplorable behavior but not necessarily convict-able criminal actions. I don't really want to go into details of why its disgusting and not criminal, I think it should be self evident. A university must protect its name, just like the NFL and companies do as well. Also the veracity of the claim in the report at Oregon is very strong given who it came from.

Bottom line I would not want them attached to the Buffs.
 
4thGenBuff said:
Almost any employment contract has a line about actions unbecoming of university. Your actions do not need to be criminal, if your employer feels that taint you them then your gone. The NFL, NBA are headed to have very strict rules, more strict than the penal code.

The police report from the incident shows disgusting, deplorable behavior but not necessarily convict-able criminal actions. I don't really want to go into details of why its disgusting and not criminal, I think it should be self evident. A university must protect its name, just like the NFL and companies do as well. Also the veracity of the claim in the report at Oregon is very strong given who it came from.

Bottom line I would not want them attached to the Buffs.
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so all we need to do is have girls falsely accuse athletes at other schools of rape, get them kicked off the team, and rise to the top of the Pac12
 
tante said:
so all we need to do is have girls falsely accuse athletes at other schools of rape, get them kicked off the team, and rise to the top of the Pac12
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The girl in question was a homer Oregon fan with connections to their AD. This is hardly a set up.
 
There is criminal and then there is disgusting.

There is a great deal of evidence that something disgusting happened, the only question is whether the actions were criminal. The players in question are lucky they ended up in a gray area as far as the facts were concerned. They are lucky there was no Elevator video.

Playing on a scholarship is a privilege not a right. You mess up, good bye.

I urge everyone to read the police report before staying stupid #$#. If you want to post what they did and sign your name that you are ok with those actions then be my guest. You will sound like a spokesman of the Taliban but that is on you.
 
If this kind of stuff gets your blood boiling, I recommend you read Scoreboard, Baby. You'll begin to understand why, and how some of this goes on, and how corrupt the whole system is in regards to big time college sports and the law.
 
Normally, it would be smart to let discipline problems finish out the semester for all the APR reasons. Plus, if the person isn't charged with a crime you don't want to keep him from earning those credits since there's the rest of his life to think about.

BUT...

In this case, it was a matter of safety for the young women on campus.

AND...

It's not like they suspended the players from team activities and let them finish up coursework for the semester. They rode these guys through the Pac-12 and NCAA tourneys.
 
The academic arm is starting to push back at Oregon, or so it would appear. Maybe they are getting tired of being referred to as an athletic department with a university attached.
 
Wasn't Lyle supposed to take over the point so that Young could be in more of a scoring role?
 
BuffG said:
Sadly, the only thing that will end Dana is losing & it appears they're set up for that this year.
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Yep, a down year for Oregon (likely) and another sleazy story coming out out Eugene (happens yearly, so no worries there) should do the trick.
 
Creebuzz said:
The academic arm is starting to push back at Oregon, or so it would appear. Maybe they are getting tired of being referred to as an athletic department with a university attached.
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Wait a second, there is a university at Oregon???? Who would have thunk it


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