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Maryland and Rutgers heading to the Big 10 on Monday.

Weird. I don't get how this helps the Big 10. When expanding, you need to invite a school that brings in more revenue than the splits your schools are currently getting. Does anyone think either of these schools do that?
 
Tractor said:
Weird. I don't get how this helps the Big 10. When expanding, you need to invite a school that brings in more revenue than the splits your schools are currently getting. Does anyone think either of these schools do that?
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Baltimore, DC, Philly, NJ and NY cable systems. That's the idea with this. Also, I bet the B1G is looking at its recruiting footprint for both football and basketball.
 
ECU has supposedly had an unscheduled athletics related meeting, possible move to the Big East there as well.
 
Buffnik said:
Baltimore, DC, Philly, NJ and NY cable systems. That's the idea with this. Also, I bet the B1G is looking at its recruiting footprint for both football and basketball.
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B1G and SEC moves lately have proved who the real top dogs are. Particularly the way they quietly set up that deal for the other half of the Orange Bowl that screwed the P12 and B12. There is also a chance this breaks the ACC and we are finally at the 16 team leagues that have been predicted. Do FSU and GT panic? There are reports that GT has reached out to the B12, I'd have the B12's number on speed dial if I was Clemson as well. If it happens, UNC and either UVA or Duke could round out the B1G, and Va Tech + 1 (FSU?) to the SEC. PAC and B12 are going to be relegated to mid tier status unless Larry can convince UT to have a change of heart on media rights and revenue splits. We could also be looking at the geographic isolation scenario we've all been worried throughout all this expansion talk.

However...just throwing this out there...I believe the current Power 5 conferences total comes to 62 teams. Add in Rutgers and UConn or Rutgers and ND and you have the right numbers for a 4x16 setup, its just a matter of rearranging the deck chairs. I suppose its within the realm of possibility that this could have been a point of discussion at the recent the playoff meetings, though they'd have to be very, very careful about opening themselves up to collusion / anti-trust issues.
 
if i were a Big Tenner i can't say i'd find this all that exciting.

first round of movement, us, NU, ATM.....a lot more star power. maybe not as many east coast fannies in front of the cable system as Nik points out but....Terps and Scarlet Knights....meh.
 
There is some credible speculation that Rutgers may be a smokescreen and that GT is a more viable candidate than has been previously thought. GT gets the B1G into Atlanta, (while still a pro-sports town they care a hell of a lot more about CFB than the north east does). GT also just got AAU status. Possible that the B1G doesn't want to look like a bully taking two schools from the ACC, and that they'd prefer the SEC / B12 to push over the next domino. Also give the B1G a beachhead in recruiting the South in a growth State.
 
Notre Dame off the table and Penn State's declining power to draw the NE markets means this move was inevitable.

As everyone has said, next round of domino's looks like UConn to ACC, ECU to Big East and things keep moving along. Only question is if this move creates any other ACC schools to break-away (Florida State-Clemson to SEC?), and/or Louisville to leave the Big East if the Big 12 would invite them along with Cincy?
 
One of the more prominent Terp alums in the media world seems pissed, Bonnie Bernstein

I feel sick. Part of my identity has been stripped. Priority 1 better be reinstating those 7 sports we cut. Goodbye, ACC. #Terps
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Most of the B1G isn't thrilled about this move, neither team is a WOW team to bring in as far as football goes. Word is this may be a move to get North Carolina and that would apparently force Notre Dame's hand into the B1G. I don't know enough about that situation to say whether that's what's happening or not? I understand the move from a financial and TV set standpoint, but as far as sports................I don't feel great about it.
 
BIGREDIOWAN said:
Most of the B1G isn't thrilled about this move, neither team is a WOW team to bring in as far as football goes. Word is this may be a move to get North Carolina and that would apparently force Notre Dame's hand into the B1G. I don't know enough about that situation to say whether that's what's happening or not? I understand the move from a financial and TV set standpoint, but as far as sports................I don't feel great about it.
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More is not always better.
 
buffedup said:
More is not always better.
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This is true, I'd much rather have a smaller conference with a lot of strong schools than a huge conference with several weak ones. Right now Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, Purdue, and Minnesota are terrible. Couple that with the fact that two of our better teams, PSU and OSU, can't play in anything postseason due to restrictions, that leaves 5 teams competing for a spot in the championship game. Good times............then add in Rutgers, occasionally decent at football, and Maryland, usually terrible at football, and I think you have a "meh" conference. Now obviously I'm just talking about football, I don't watch enough college basketball to know where everyone stands there. I know Nebraska is terrible at basketball and will finish dead last in the B1G, but outside of that who knows. Maybe this will get the conference to change that dumbass logo and division names with this move. If it does bring in NC and ND those are huge gets...........I mean HUGE! I would've much rather brought Kansas and Missouri with us to the B1G than get Rutgers and Maryland.
 
Interesting tidbits in the Maryland presser. I don't think the B1G is staying at 14 for long, this is part of a coordinated move East. They talked about how as part of their new support infrastructure for their partnership they are also opening up an Eastern office.
 
BIGREDIOWAN said:
This is true, I'd much rather have a smaller conference with a lot of strong schools than a huge conference with several weak ones. Right now Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, Purdue, and Minnesota are terrible. Couple that with the fact that two of our better teams, PSU and OSU, can't play in anything postseason due to restrictions, that leaves 5 teams competing for a spot in the championship game. Good times............then add in Rutgers, occasionally decent at football, and Maryland, usually terrible at football, and I think you have a "meh" conference. Now obviously I'm just talking about football, I don't watch enough college basketball to know where everyone stands there. I know Nebraska is terrible at basketball and will finish dead last in the B1G, but outside of that who knows. Maybe this will get the conference to change that dumbass logo and division names with this move. If it does bring in NC and ND those are huge gets...........I mean HUGE! I would've much rather brought Kansas and Missouri with us to the B1G than get Rutgers and Maryland.
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This is why I am happy that the Pac 12 is the only conference that said thanks but no thanks to Oklahoma of all schools.
 
SuperD said:
Interesting tidbits in the Maryland presser. I don't think the B1G is staying at 14 for long, this is part of a coordinated move East. They talked about how as part of their new support infrastructure for their partnership they are also opening up an Eastern office.
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Lots of chatter than North Carlina is the main target. If it brings Notre Dame, great. If not, I think the BiG would go to Plan B (UVA maybe).
 
UConn to the ACC is imminent and the FSU president said that if Maryland challenges the 50m exit fee, he´ll be watching closely.
 
Buffnik said:
Lots of chatter than North Carlina is the main target. If it brings Notre Dame, great. If not, I think the BiG would go to Plan B (UVA maybe).
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UVA is really stuck unless VT can go with them or VT land in the SEC or another stable conference so UVA could go B1G. I can't even begin to describe to you the fiasco of UVA being forced to get VT into the ACC 9 years ago. UVA/VT arguably carry just as much weight in the DC metro as Maryland does. Yeah, Maryland is much closer in proximity, but the alumni bases in DC are simply enormous for all of those schools.

Culturally, despite being a founding member of the ACC, Maryland has MUCH more in common with Rutgers and Penn State than they do UVA, UNC or Clemson. The South/North divide runs along the Potomac - world of difference between Charlottesville and College Park

You do get the feeling the ACC is on the brink now. No, it won't totally collapse because most schools simply don't have anywhere to go (and there are still some diehard schools that would never want to leave), but FSU will certainly be more inclined to jump (FSU and Maryland put up the most resistance to the increased fees to leave the ACC). Adding UConn isn't exactly enough to make everyone breathe easy.
 
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Most of the B1G isn't thrilled about this move, neither team is a WOW team to bring in as far as football goes. Word is this may be a move to get North Carolina and that would apparently force Notre Dame's hand into the B1G. I don't know enough about that situation to say whether that's what's happening or not? I understand the move from a financial and TV set standpoint, but as far as sports................I don't feel great about it.
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Yup, that's what was stated in the article I posted in the one of the other threads on this same topic, that the Big 10 could now be hoping to lure UNC. And it can't hurt that Delany is a UNC alum.

If FSU and/or Clemson bolt for the Big 12 then ACC will become the new version of Big East football, if it's not on its way to becoming that already.
 
This Maryland move could actually lead to a positive development on the MWC front. According to ESPN, BSU, BYU and SDSU have had talks about re-joining the conference: http://espn.go.com/college-football...ztecs-byu-cougars-talk-mwc-return-sources-say. Pry away UTEP from Conference USA to get to 14 and you probably have the best conference not in the "Big 5"

Pacific Division
Boise State
San Diego State
Fresno State
San Jose State
UNLV
Nevada
Hawaii

Mountain
BYU
Utah State
Air Force
Colorado State
Wyoming
New Mexico
UTEP

Rotate a championship game between Vegas, Denver, and San Diego and you may have something there. However, this makes way too much sense to happen - so I am sure one of these programs will find a way to screw it up.
 
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CsquaredCC said:
This Maryland move could actually lead to a positive development on the MWC front. According to ESPN, BSU, BYU and SDSU have had talks about re-joining the conference: http://espn.go.com/college-football...ztecs-byu-cougars-talk-mwc-return-sources-say. Pry away UTEP from Conference USA to get to 14 and you probably have the best conference not in the "Big 5"

Pacific Division
Boise State
San Diego State
Fresno State
San Jose State
UNLV
Nevada
Hawaii

Mountain
BYU
Utah State
Air Force
Colorado State
Wyoming
New Mexico
UTEP

Rotate a championship game between Vegas, Denver, and San Diego and you may have something there. However, this makes way too much sense to happen - so I am sure one of these programs will find a way to screw it up.
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After Rutgers and either UConn or Louisville bails, that lineup is at least as good as anything the Big East will throw out there, and I think more likely to win to the auto-bid that is up for grabs for the best ranked "Group of Five" team.
 
CC, you have to hope your conference leadership thinks more strategically than your fanbase. Bringing back those schools should be a no-brainer.
 
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