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Men's Tournament Seeding

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Looking over the possible scenarios, it appears we could end up anywhere from 3rd to 9th, but I don't see anyway the buffs can actually get a 5 seed. The Pac-12 logjam is really frustrating sometimes.

Tiebreakers

If tied with Cal: TBD (head to head determines, unless 3 way tie)
If tied with Stanford: TBD (head to head determines, unless 3 way tie)
If tied with Oregon: We win (head to head determines)
If tied with ASU: We lose (record vs #1 seed determines)
If tied with Utah: we lose (record vs #2 seed determines, they beat UCLA once)
If tied with UW: we lose (If UW beats UCLA they win because of record vs #2 seed. If UW loses vs UCLA they win because of record vs #3 seed I think. 1-0 vs 1-1)
If tied with OSU: we win (head to head determines)



If CU goes 2-0 they will guarantee a 1st round bye with seed determined on how ASU performs. ASU needs to lose both games this week for CU to be able to grab the #3 seed.

If CU goes 1-1 by beating Cal and Utah goes 1-1 by beating Stanford, then Cal earns the 4th seed by three way tiebreaking for their win over UofA
If CU goes 1-1 by beating Cal and Utah goes 1-1 by beating Cal, then Stanford earns the 4th seed by having the better record.
If CU goes 1-1 by beating Stanford and Utah goes 1-1 by beating Cal, then Cal earns the 4th seed by three way tiebreaking for their win over UofA
If CU goes 1-1 by beating Stanford and Utah goes 1-1 by beating Stanford, then Cal earns the 4th seed by having the better record.

ASU must win 1 game this week to lock in a 1st round bye. If they lose both, then they own the tiebreaker over Cal but lose the tiebreaker over Stanford, assuming those 3 end up with the same record.


Just looking at the standings and starting to work through the tiebreakers, if CU loses 1 or 2 games then they do not have any say over there destiny. They could fall as low as 9th.

The matchups this week are:

Mountain @ Bay Area
Desert @ Oregon
LA @ Washington
 
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What a mess. I've been trying to game this out in my head but kept getting tied up over the tie breakers. For us right now, it's simple - we control our own destiny. Win both and we will get a bye.
Unfortunately, I doubt that will happen, so we are going to get caught up in one of the scenarios above.
 
Shldr2Shldr said:
Looking over the possible scenarios, it appears we could end up anywhere from 3rd to 9th, but I don't see anyway the buffs can actually get a 5 seed. The Pac-12 logjam is really frustrating sometimes.

Tiebreakers

If tied with Cal: TBD (head to head determines, unless 3 way tie)
If tied with Stanford: TBD (head to head determines, unless 3 way tie)
If tied with Oregon: We win (head to head determines)
If tied with ASU: We lose (record vs #1 seed determines)
If tied with Utah: we lose (record vs #2 seed determines, they beat UCLA once)
If tied with UW: we lose (If UW beats UCLA they win because of record vs #2 seed. If UW loses vs UCLA they win because of record vs #3 seed I think. 1-0 vs 1-1)
If tied with OSU: we win (head to head determines)



If CU goes 2-0 they will guarantee a 1st round bye with seed determined on how ASU performs. ASU needs to lose both games this week for CU to be able to grab the #3 seed.

If CU goes 1-1 by beating Cal and Utah goes 1-1 by beating Stanford, then Cal earns the 4th seed by three way tiebreaking for their win over UofA
If CU goes 1-1 by beating Cal and Utah goes 1-1 by beating Cal, then Stanford earns the 4th seed by having the better record.
If CU goes 1-1 by beating Stanford and Utah goes 1-1 by beating Cal, then Cal earns the 4th seed by three way tiebreaking for their win over UofA
If CU goes 1-1 by beating Stanford and Utah goes 1-1 by beating Stanford, then Cal earns the 4th seed by having the better record.

ASU must win 1 game this week to lock in a 1st round bye. If they lose both, then they own the tiebreaker over Cal but lose the tiebreaker over Stanford, assuming those 3 end up with the same record.

Just looking at the standings and starting to work through the tiebreakers, if CU loses 1 or 2 games then they do not have any say over there destiny. They could fall as low as 9th.

The matchups this week are:

Mountain @ Bay Area
Desert @ Oregon
LA @ Washington
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​How many teams have finished as low as 9 out of 12 teams (or an equivalent %) and still gotten an AT-L bid?
 
cubuffs85 said:
​How many teams have finished as low as 9 out of 12 teams (or an equivalent %) and still gotten an AT-L bid?
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I can't think of any. Closest I can think of is the Big East getting 30 teams in a few years ago, but they had more than 12 teams.
 
Ya Big east got 11/16 in. So percentage that is 68.75% of teams. CU as 9th in the conference would be at 75%. Luckily though the Selection Committee doesn't seem to care about conference standings.
 
Goose said:
I can't think of any. Closest I can think of is the Big East getting 30 teams in a few years ago, but they had more than 12 teams.
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I was thinking the Big East to. In addition to having more teams, the caliber of play was also much better.
 
Shldr2Shldr said:
Ya Big east got 11/16 in. So percentage that is 68.75% of teams. CU as 9th in the conference would be at 75%. Luckily though the Selection Committee doesn't seem to care about conference standings.
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They say they don't but I have a hard time believing they don't completely factor it out.
 
Just win a ****ing game so we don't end up playing Oregon or someone with a pulse in the first round.
 
Shldr2Shldr said:
Year we won the pac-12 they left out the regular season conference champs and took Cal instead. It happens.
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Yeah which was just an awful year for the Pac-12. Some of our detractors might say, it diminished winning the P-12 Tourney, I would disagree with that.
 
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