Nembot

[boydbuff]

Anyone else find this a bit scary?

MacIntyre said they will at least experiment with moving Stephane Nembot from right tackle to left tackle

He certainly had a very difficult time in pass protection from the right side last year, but Sefo's blind-side? Of course the article goes on to say that Irwin is likely the long-term solution at LT but is not available now

 

[leftybuff]

Anyone else find this a bit scary?



He certainly had a very difficult time in pass protection from the right side last year, but Sefo's blind-side? Of course the article goes on to say that Irwin is likely the long-term solution at LT but is not available now

:afraid: Love Nembot's frame, but he got juked on some stunts last year and nearly got Sefo killed in the Utah game.

 

[CUFan]

Our oline is gonna blow again this year. I'm hopeful for 2015 though.


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[MtnBuff]

I hope this is more of a prepare for emergency type of thing than an indication that we are likely to see this much next season. If so Sefo better get used to releasing the ball fast.

 

[Darth Snow]

Hey, why not man

 

[Duff Man]

Why is it scary?

 

[patebuff]

He said "experiment". I don't see the issue here.

 

[The Ogre]

Here's a question for someone with extensive and specific knowledge: What are the biggest differences between a right and left tackle?

I know this is AllBuffs, so yes, I realize they're on opposite sides of the line. The left tackle is usually more able to protect the QB's blind side because of better technique, but what, if any, are some of the finer points? If Nembot suddenly has the light come on, is he our best LT candidate? Why or why not? TIA.

 

[buffaholic]

Here's a question for someone with extensive and specific knowledge: What are the biggest differences between a right and left tackle?

I know this is AllBuffs, so yes, I realize they're on opposite sides of the line. The left tackle is usually more able to protect the QB's blind side because of better technique, but what, if any, are some of the finer points? If Nembot suddenly has the light come on, is he our best LT candidate? Why or why not? TIA.

The difference is primarily that everything is identical, but opposite. Sometimes guys can adapt to one side than the other. Why not experiment?

The only explanation for this being scary is if you are uninformed on the dire situation of our Offensive Tackle position. We are experimenting with everybody to find 3 good tackles.
Irwin is at best a question mark given two broken feet in less than a year, and the installation of a metal plate. And tackle isn't even his natural position, he's just capable of it.

We are in a very uncomfortable position that no D1 team should ever be in. But it is what it is. You need 3 mature tackles to be ready to go so we need the light to go on for Nembot and Mustoe, and we need Irwin to get healthy. Or we will be screwed.

 

[tante]

what about fullback? He would make an awesome fullback.

 

[The Ogre]

Thanks 'holic. Is there usually a left-handed (footed?)/right-handed advantage with strength and mobility, or is it more a matter of whoever plays better goes to the blind side?


I agree with giving Nembot a shot at the left side, it would seem foolish not to try it at some point.

 

[leftybuff]

Here's a question for someone with extensive and specific knowledge: What are the biggest differences between a right and left tackle?

I know this is AllBuffs, so yes, I realize they're on opposite sides of the line. The left tackle is usually more able to protect the QB's blind side because of better technique, but what, if any, are some of the finer points? If Nembot suddenly has the light come on, is he our best LT candidate? Why or why not? TIA.

To add to 'holic's comments, imagine left hand layups versus right hand layups. Some people can switch over pretty easily. Same with your stance, blocking techinque etc. on the OL. Add in that the LT protects the QB's blind side (if the QBis a righty) and you are usually across from the Defense's best pass rusher. So a combination of strength, agility and moving from a left handed stance makes the LT a petty important component of the OL, and usually the hardest talent to find.

 

[Buffnik]

Makes sense.

We have some depth of guys this year and some versatility. There are also some holes and question marks.

This spring and even into the fall is going to be a lot about trying different combinations to see what best gels. Our starting OL may not be the 5 best linemen. It may not have each of the 5 guys in the position he plays the best. But it will damn well be the 5 guys in the 5 spots that makes for the best OL unit.

 

[MtnBuff]

There is also a difference between the sides in who you face. Because it is normally the back or blind side for the QB most teams put their best pass rushing threat on that side. The LT usually ends up in a lot of one on one battles with the faster and often lighter DE or OLB. A lot of offenses are right handed and in a traditional set line up the TE on the right side meaning that the defense puts their better run stoppers on that side.

 

[boydbuff]

Funny how some people aren't scared by the thought of Nembot protecting Sefo's blindside when several people have suggested Nembot might not even be a starter on the right side come fall due to his problems with pass protection from the RT position.

 

[josef]

There is also a difference between the sides in who you face. Because it is normally the back or blind side for the QB most teams put their best pass rushing threat on that side. The LT usually ends up in a lot of one on one battles with the faster and often lighter DE or OLB. A lot of offenses are right handed and in a traditional set line up the TE on the right side meaning that the defense puts their better run stoppers on that side.

Hit the nail on the head. LT's are usually tall, long, and athletic compared to RT's which are usually more of road graders. Size is a plus but only as long as you can stay agile with it. Defenses are looking for turnovers and the highest probability of one is from a blindside hit on a QB. Thats why they like to rush that side.

 

[boydbuff]

Hit the nail on the head. LT's are usually tall, long, and athletic compared to RT's which are usually more of road graders. Size is a plus but only as long as you can stay agile with it. Defenses are looking for turnovers and the highest probability of one is from a blindside hit on a QB. Thats why they like to rush that side.

If I am not mistaken, LTs are usually the highest paid lineman in the NFL and most in demand of any line position. B/c they are protecting the blind spot of the most expensive and important player on the team. Thus, my concern is if Nembot is even close to being the best OL on our team based on last year's performance (as a pass blocker)...

 

[Bigbuffs]

I don't see why this is a big deal. They never said he's the new starting left tackle. They just said that he's going to get some snaps just as an experiment. If he's not good enough then he won't be the left tackle. However, if he is good enough well then he helps us in big way because now we have another person who can play left tackle, and that would really help our depth issues their. I don't see Nembot getting a few snaps at left tackle as anything we should be scared about.

 

[josef]

If I am not mistaken, LTs are usually the highest paid lineman in the NFL and most in demand of any line position. B/c they are protecting the blind spot of the most expensive and important player on the team. Thus, my concern is if Nembot is even close to being the best OL on our team based on last year's performance (as a pass blocker)...

I understand your concern. I was speaking in generalities and not about Nembot. I have no idea who our best left tackle is right now. I am not close enough to it to make that decision.

That being said your best linemen isn't always your left tackle.

 

[boydbuff]

Not sure Wikepedia is the best source but just found this quote which supports that LTs are generally the best pass blockers and also not only the highest paid lineman but often next highest paid after the QB:

The left tackle (LT) is usually the team's best pass blocker. Of the two tackles, the left tackles will often have better footwork and agility than the right tackle in order to counteract the pass rush of defensive ends. Most quarterbacks are right-handed and in order to throw, they stand with their left shoulders facing down field, closer to the line of scrimmage. Thus, they turn their backs to defenders coming from the left side, creating a vulnerable "blind side" that the left tackle must protect. (Conversely, teams with left-handed quarterbacks tend to have their better pass blockers at right tackle for the same reason.)
A 2006 book by Michael Lewis, The Blind Side: Evolution of a Game, sheds much light on the workings of the left tackle position. The book discusses how the annual salary of left tackles in the NFL skyrocketed in the mid-90's. Premier left tackles are now highly sought after commodities, and are often the second highest paid players on a roster after the quarterback; in the 2013 NFL Draft three of the first four picks were left tackles, and usually at least one left tackle is picked in the first five positions.[SUP][1][/SUP] Recent examples include Eric Fisher (2013, 1st overall pick), Luke Joeckel (2013, 2nd overall pick), Lane Johnson (2013,4th overall pick), Matt Kalil (2012, 4th overall pick), Trent Williams (2010, 4th overall pick),Jake Long (2008, 1st overall pick), and Joe Thomas (2007, 3rd overall pick).

 

[MtnBuff]

Funny how some people aren't scared by the thought of Nembot protecting Sefo's blindside when several people have suggested Nembot might not even be a starter on the right side come fall due to his problems with pass protection from the RT position.

I am very scared based on what I have seen of him so far. He has had plays on the right side where he has flat out wiffed on his block giving his man a free run to the QB.

When that happens on the left side you can get a QB killed.

 

[josef]

Not sure Wikepedia is the best source but just found this quote which supports that LTs are generally the best pass blockers and also not only the highest paid lineman but often next highest paid after the QB:

Not arguing that teams would like for that to be the case. It just doesn't always happen that way.

 

[boydbuff]

I am very scared based on what I have seen of him so far. He has had plays on the right side where he has flat out wiffed on his block giving his man a free run to the QB.

When that happens on the left side you can get a QB killed.

Glad to see I am not the only one. Some people here are acting like it's stupid to be concerned. I realize they are just going to test it out in Spring but the thought of him protecting Sefo's blind side, IMHO is scary, based on his pass protection performance last season. Not sure how that would improve enough to get him the starting position at LT?

 

[Darth Snow]

how DARE THE COACHES EXPERIMENT IN SPRING WITH THE OFFENSIVE LINE

 

[schubeal]

Funny how some people aren't scared by the thought of Nembot protecting Sefo's blindside when several people have suggested Nembot might not even be a starter on the right side come fall due to his problems with pass protection from the RT position.

I am scared of the though of him protecting Sefo's blindside in a game. I could care less where they put guys in practice.

Remember, we're talkin' 'bout practice...not a game...practice.

 

[Yung Buffalo]

I am scared of the though of him protecting Sefo's blindside in a game. I could care less where they put guys in practice.

Remember, we're talkin' 'bout practice...not a game...practice.

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[patebuff]

how DARE THE COACHES EXPERIMENT IN SPRING WITH THE OFFENSIVE LINE

The nerve of some coaches. I tell ya....

 

[Duff Man]

I just **** my pants at the thought. Hope Boyd now feels better.

 

[boydbuff]

I just **** my pants at the thought. Hope Boyd now feels better.

Were you embarrassed in a public setting? If so, then yes I do.

 

[BlackNGold]

Nembot is a talent, he just needs the light to go on with pass blocking. He loves being aggressive and struggles with finesse required in backing up and fending off the pass rushers. That is why he wiffs, he is trying to move into them. Pass Blocking requires the tackle to step back and protect the inside. Nembot still just tries to drive block everything.