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New Mexico Bowl: Pac-12 participation moved up to this season

Be a nice step up for the Buffs to qualify for this one. Long run we want more but from where we have been getting into a bowl would be a solid move. Also close enough to be an easy road trip for fans.
 
About as close as a bowl game will ever get to Boulder. If the Buffs go to this one I am definitely there!
 
I can't stand Albuquerque, but I'd head down for the game. I'd probably not even bother to spend the night, though. Maybe spend the night in Santa Fe on the way home.
 
sackman said:
I can't stand Albuquerque, but I'd head down for the game. I'd probably not even bother to spend the night, though. Maybe spend the night in Santa Fe on the way home.
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December 17th. Probably do Taos, Santa Fe and then drive to Albacrackie for the game.
 
I'm going to throw the tailgate if we make it. Go all out sacky style too.
 
Boulder Buff said:
Taos is a must, especially if early season snows are good.
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IMO, Taos is better than a lot of Summit county resorts. The only thing that can kill it though is that truly great ski conditions don't occur until late Jan-early Feb. It sucks, but some of the chutes there are incredible. It also has a small time feel to it, which is a reason why I dislike places like Breck.
 
sackman said:
I can't stand Albuquerque, but I'd head down for the game. I'd probably not even bother to spend the night, though. Maybe spend the night in Santa Fe on the way home.
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Wifey and I stayed in SF on the way to visiting our oldest kiddo in Scottsdale. It had been a few years since I was there and man was I underwhelmed. Stayed at the El Dorado (meh), there were some barefoot homeless types hanging around. I was also harassed by some loon that was yelling at me for drinking a cup of Starbuck's. Will stay in Gallup next time :thumbsup:
 
CUBUFF80 said:
Wifey and I stayed in SF on the way to visiting our oldest kiddo in Scottsdale. It had been a few years since I was there and man was I underwhelmed. Stayed at the El Dorado (meh), there were some barefoot homeless types hanging around. I was also harassed by some loon that was yelling at me for drinking a cup of Starbuck's. Will stay in Gallup next time :thumbsup:
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I'm guessing you've never been to Gallup.
 
NMBuff said:
IMO, Taos is better than a lot of Summit county resorts. The only thing that can kill it though is that truly great ski conditions don't occur until late Jan-early Feb. It sucks, but some of the chutes there are incredible. It also has a small time feel to it, which is a reason why I dislike places like Breck.
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We were there a couple years ago when the snow sucked and we still had a ton of fun. I can only imagine being there when the snow is good. We stayed in a huge cabin in Arroyo Seco and had a blast. Taos has some solid food and the finding the natural hot springs outside of town (know there are several) was fun too.
 
I like the art walk area and the restaurants are pretty good. Santa Fe's a pretty good town, imo.

My biggest complaint is that there's a ton of social stratification. It seems like everyone is either wealthy or poor. I wouldn't want to live there, but to visit it's very nice if you focus on the rich peoples' playgrounds.
 
Buffnik said:
I like the art walk area and the restaurants are pretty good. Santa Fe's a pretty good town, imo.

My biggest complaint is that there's a ton of social stratification. It seems like everyone is either wealthy or poor. I wouldn't want to live there, but to visit it's very nice if you focus on the rich peoples' playgrounds.
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You've nailed it. A problem with Albuquerque is that the median income is $38k. The dropout rate for HS is incredibly high at 40%. The state will give you a scholarship to attend one of the universities here, but not everyone takes advantage of it. Our schools are funded as poorly as Colorado, but the state has no results to show for it, unlike Colorado. It's a cultural thing. Very frustrating and I'm a native (southern NM).

You have upper middle class areas adjacent to lower class ones spread out through the entire city so there is no "nice area" of town. The extremely wealthy are off by themselves, but that always only accounts for a low percentage of the population anyway. Most people I work with send their kids to private school since the public schools are horrible.

There is no downtown social scene for people in their late 20s and 30s. It's relegated to college students and thugs. There are no manufacturing jobs and people don't really come here for vacation. Most people that have graduated college tend to leave the area. Of the few great places to work here, most hire transplants from around the country so there is this lingering animosity between the locals and the transplants.

There are perks though. Great world class skiing is close by (I personally love Wolf Creek). The weather is great. The Mexican food here is mounds better than the garbage in Colorado. The green chile is great as the red. You can go climbing at anytime of the year; same with golf. There is seclusion when you wander outside of the city and I've been on many trails 20 minutes away from where I live without seeing anyone.

If we do make it to the NM bowl I'll come up with a list of places to eat and visit for you out of towners.
 
Arizona is the same way...and Colorado is trending as such....this is part of the problem of the "free market hooray" mindset of the west romanticized as "libertarianism" or "true Reagan philosophy". there is no middle class. for a middle class, you need institutions of civil society....like support for education, a commitment to legal systems and government, whatever. basically, you under-fund education until it fails....and then blame the "public moneys" for it. taxpayers love that. the whole model is wrong and "socialism" or some crazy irrational contemporary meme that makes park benches signs of Leninism.

i realize all that is EVIL today....but, historically, it's true.
 
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HUFset said:
How far is Wolf Creek? It doesn't look all that close.
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3.5hrs. Closer than Denver or Boulder. It's not really close, but it's also not that far. I don't really do the day ski trips anymore. I used to ski Taos and Wolf Creek as 1 dayers. Gas prices will make those trips not really feasible anymore. Never had a bad day of skiing at WC, even the day after Thanksgiving when I went 2 years ago. Absolutely wonderful mountain.

Edit: World class is Taos. Seriously, that mountain is worth a 6hr trip if you are a good skiier for you folks in Denver/Boulder; it's 2 here. The other resorts here are meh, but they are a lot cheaper than most places in Colorado. Other than Taos, I miss the skiing in Summitt county.
 
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Boulder Buff said:
Taos is a must, especially if early season snows are good.
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If it were possible to custom build a ski mountain, there are parts of Taos that I'd want to see incorporated into a dream mountain, of which I'm now too out of shape to enjoy.

One of the first views of the Taos mountain is lift 5 and Al's Run. Beginner skiers crap themselves at how ominous Taos looks from the base. It's the most intimidating base of a ski mountain I've seen. Up at the top of the mountain, The Highline and West Basin ridges are steep and deep. Good stuff.

Al's Run under Lift 5 is a showboater's paradise. Mogul skiers who can keep a line top to bottom can really showcase their talent in front of a built in audience.

Al's Run is in the same league as Vail's Highline Lift/Run and Telluride's Plunge Lift and Spiral Stairs. All great places for mogul skiing attention whores.

The double black diamonds at Taos belong in the same conversation as the runs under Alta's Supreme & Wild Cat chairs or A-Basin's head wall & Pallavicini.

Two other favorite extreme locations that come to mind when talking Bout Taos are Crested Butte's North Face lift (Spellbound:Sock-it-to-Me) and the C-Lift at the Jane (Railbender/Derailer). Skier's paradise.

It's just damn exciting to think about a Utah football/ski weekend followed shortly thereafter with a bowl trip to NM and a side trip to Taos. I only wish I could pull that off.
 
I don't know about you.... but I will be staying in LA for the Rose Bowl.... Not Albuquerque :gobuffs:
 
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