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New Pac-12 transfer rule

Buffnik

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I like this one. Will keep Pac-12 programs from the situation of bringing in a guy who is booted out of his previous school. I believe that this won't hurt talent as much as it protects team chemistry and university integrity (while avoiding bad press & scandal). Good move, imho.

h/t to @BuffStampede for finding and posting this press release on his board.

LAS VEGAS – The Pac-12 CEO Group – made up of the presidents and chancellors of Pac-12 member institutions – approved a policy prohibiting a transfer from receiving athletic aid or participating in athletics if the transfer student-athlete is unable to re-enroll at a previous institution due to student misconduct, the Conference announced today.

Under the new policy, student-athlete transfers who are ineligible to re-enroll at any of their previous colleges or universities will be automatically deemed ineligible to receive athletic aid from a Pac-12 university and cannot join any university team or participate in their activities.

The transfer policy will apply only to student misconduct issues such as assault, harassment, academic fraud, and other violations of campus behavior conduct policies. It will not apply to academic performance reasons unrelated to misconduct.

“This is an important step to strengthen our student-athlete transfer admission processes and to address the safety of our students,” said UCLA Chancellor Gene Block who serves as the Chair of the Pac-12 CEO Group.

To institute the policy, each Pac-12 university will require its student-athlete transfer applicants to self-disclose whether they are eligible to re-enroll at their prior institution. Each Pac-12 university may create an appeal process for student-athletes who are deemed ineligible by this policy.
 
PRich would have been allowed back at UCLA (they wanted to delay his enrollment), so this rule would not have prevented him from coming here
 
I'm not sure how I feel about this. Part of being a student is figuring out how to be an adult. If they aren't in criminal trouble, does a kid deserve a second chance?
 
I'm not sure how I feel about this. Part of being a student is figuring out how to be an adult. If they aren't in criminal trouble, does a kid deserve a second chance?
They'll usually get that 2nd chance before getting kicked out of school. I'm ok with this, an athletic scholarship is a privilege.
 
This puts the onus of any 'second' chance back on the transfer athlete and the original school, rather than making the Pac-12 schools vet every transfer. This would also apply in the recent Baylor case (if Baylor had to abide by this rule). If I recall correctly, that player was in trouble at his original school (Boise?) and then was accepted to Baylor where the coaches denied knowledge of his prior issues.
 
I'm not sure how I feel about this. Part of being a student is figuring out how to be an adult. If they aren't in criminal trouble, does a kid deserve a second chance?

I'm all about 2nd chances. So go to a JUCO for a year to get your **** together. Then you're eligible to transfer into the Pac-12. If you're an upperclassman and got dismissed, then go to a lower division to play and get your degree. I like the Pac-12 having a standard.
 
I keep going back to a kid like P-Rich, who did a stupid high school kid thing at UCLA, and seemed to do well publicly at CU. I then see the rap sheets on the Oregon or Baylor kids, and think the failings are on the legal side. For some reason, I don't see the theft of a lap top as the same as rape and arson. I trusted the CU coaches and AD to do the screening.
 
After rereading, and I'm not sure about P-rich or the 2 guys I mentioned from this class, the rule applies to kids getting kicked out of school. Not just off the team.
 
I keep going back to a kid like P-Rich, who did a stupid high school kid thing at UCLA, and seemed to do well publicly at CU.

Thank goodness Richardson was a Buff, but stealing a woman's purse is not a "stupid high school kid thing".
 
As stated earlier, P-Rich was not dismissed from UCLA. This rule would not have applied to him.

FWIW, it also wouldn't have applied to guys like Samson and Tupou who were suspended by CU but were not dismissed.
 
I'm all about 2nd chances. So go to a JUCO for a year to get your **** together. Then you're eligible to transfer into the Pac-12. If you're an upperclassman and got dismissed, then go to a lower division to play and get your degree. I like the Pac-12 having a standard.
I'm not sure the bolded is correct, after re-reading the article. The wording they use is:

"student-athlete transfers who are ineligible to re-enroll at any of their previous colleges or universities will be automatically deemed ineligible to receive athletic aid from a Pac-12 university and cannot join any university team or participate in their activities."

So, even if you went to a JUCO for a year that wouldn't help as the SA would still likely be unable to re-enroll at the original school that dismissed them.
 
I'm not sure the bolded is correct, after re-reading the article. The wording they use is:

"student-athlete transfers who are ineligible to re-enroll at any of their previous colleges or universities will be automatically deemed ineligible to receive athletic aid from a Pac-12 university and cannot join any university team or participate in their activities."

So, even if you went to a JUCO for a year that wouldn't help as the SA would still likely be unable to re-enroll at the original school that dismissed them.

If you went to a JUCO for a year, that JUCO is your "previous school".
 
I stand corrected. Still like this, though.
In the light of the Baylor case, I understand it but I don't like absolutes rules like this in general. There needs to be some case-by-case flexibility. For example, kid gets kicked out of BYU for having consensual sex...
 
In the light of the Baylor case, I understand it but I don't like absolutes rules like this in general. There needs to be some case-by-case flexibility. For example, kid gets kicked out of BYU for having consensual sex...
They just can't transfer to the Pac 12. There are plenty other places who will take these kids if they can play.
 
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