Next years non conf

[whatthebuff]

Well, for some reason we always have an abysmal non conference schedule. It finally came back to bite us this year so obviously we need to do something different. So who would you like to see come to the CEC? Is there any point to scheduling long road trips like Georgia and Harvard?

Should we go for broke like Texas did this year? They played Illinois, Pitt, USC, North Carolina, Michigan St, Arkansas, and UCONN. Gonzaga also scheduled tough playing SDSU, KSU, Marquete, Illinois, Wash St, Notre Dame, Baylor, Xavier, and Okie St. I would love something like that, but I'm not sure if we want to go too difficult considering the guys we lose from this year. So what say you?

 

[Buffnik]

Schedule strong enough so that we've got a SOS in the 100-150 range before conference play starts. We're not good enough yet to schedule a Top 50 RPI non-con.

 

[Lt.Col.FrankSlade]

I say schedule every game in the CEC. I don't care if you play the little sisters of the poor. An undefeated non-conference schedule is the ticket.

Plus great revenue for the AD.

 

[Mick Ronson]

Texas always plays a very difficult hoops non-con, but not in football.

 

[Lt.Col.FrankSlade]

Texas always plays a very difficult hoops non-con, but not in football.

They do play BYU and go to UCLA next year. That is a pretty decent schedule.

 

[Mick Ronson]

They do play BYU and go to UCLA next year. That is a pretty decent schedule.

true, but historically no. they lived off the Ohio State home-home for years. but, i guess they did used to play OU OOC....so, that's commendable. not commendable, are the many years they are playing North Texas, Cupcake Texas Directional, Rice, and calling the latter a "traditional SWC rivalry". or those seasons where they don't leave the state of Texas OOC. you are Texas, right? play someone.

 

[Lt.Col.FrankSlade]

true, but historically no. they lived off the Ohio State home-home for years. but, i guess they did used to play OU OOC....so, that's commendable. not commendable, are the many years they are playing North Texas, Cupcake Texas Directional, Rice, and calling the latter a "traditional SWC rivalry". or those seasons where they don't leave the state of Texas OOC. you are Texas, right? play someone.

Their scheduling will become a little more difficult with only 3 non-conference games. And - with the odd rotation of games (they play 9 conference games now) and the loss of a home game every other year to play OU in the cotton bowl, I wouldn't blame them for playing lots of home games. And when their own television network starts up before too long, I wouldn't expect too many marquee non-conference road games on the Texas schedule.

If CU could sell out a 100,000+ seat stadium for a directional school - I would expect CU to play a LOT of directional schools.

 

[tante]

I say schedule every game in the CEC. I don't care if you play the little sisters of the poor. An undefeated non-conference schedule is the ticket.

Plus great revenue for the AD.

was this a joke post?

we saw how we got left out for playing to many sisters of the poor at the keg already, plus the attendance for those games was around 4k, with $5 GA tickets, not much of a windfall.

 

[tante]

Their scheduling will become a little more difficult with only 3 non-conference games. And - with the odd rotation of games (they play 9 conference games now) and the loss of a home game every other year to play OU in the cotton bowl, I wouldn't blame them for playing lots of home games. And when their own television network starts up before too long, I wouldn't expect too many marquee non-conference road games on the Texas schedule.

If CU could sell out a 100,000+ seat stadium for a directional school - I would expect CU to play a LOT of directional schools.

you know we are talking about basketball right?

 

[Lt.Col.FrankSlade]

you know we are talking about basketball right?

Did you not see Mick's comment?

Texas always plays a very difficult hoops non-con, but not in football.

 

[Lt.Col.FrankSlade]

was this a joke post?

we saw how we got left out for playing to many sisters of the poor at the keg already, plus the attendance for those games was around 4k, with $5 GA tickets, not much of a windfall.

Winning games is what gets teams into the NCAA tournament.

My guess is CU makes a lot more money off a home game with 4,000 fans than they do on a road game to Georgia (L), Harvard (L), or San Francisco (L).

 

[tante]

Winning games is what gets teams into the NCAA tournament.

My guess is CU makes a lot more money off a home game with 4,000 fans than they do on a road game to Georgia (L), Harvard (L), or San Francisco (L).

true, that is why they need road games to Duke, Syracuse, Kentucky and Kansas. The would proably make just as much playing those schools on the road. And it would give the selection comitte a boner since we played a tough schedule.

 

[tante]

Did you not see Mick's comment?

yes I was referring to your post.

Their scheduling will become a little more difficult with only 3 non-conference games. And - with the odd rotation of games (they play 9 conference games now) and the loss of a home game every other year to play OU in the cotton bowl, I wouldn't blame them for playing lots of home games. And when their own television network starts up before too long, I wouldn't expect too many marquee non-conference road games on the Texas schedule.

If CU could sell out a 100,000+ seat stadium for a directional school - I would expect CU to play a LOT of directional schools.

 

[Duff Man]

Winning games is what gets teams into the NCAA tournament.

My guess is CU makes a lot more money off a home game with 4,000 fans than they do on a road game to Georgia (L), Harvard (L), or San Francisco (L).

Not if we're playing multiple teams with RPIs in the 300s. Frankly, there is a consumer aspect to scheduling too. There is no reason CU cannot schedule some attractive home games that will draw people to Boulder. Tante was being kind with the 4K figure.

 

[Mick Ronson]

people are not going to shop up for the 6 weeks of non-con play if it's a steady diet of Alcorn State and Longwoods. i think we've proven that already. plus, it is a bad strategy to getting in the NCAA and doesn't prepare you for conference play.

 

[SECOBuffsFan]

The program is not ready to play Kentucky, Duke, North Carolina, Michigan State on the road yet. They need to play a tougher schedule than last year, but they can't play the Michigan State or Gonzaga type schedule until they get three really good recruiting classes together.

Getting the home area games (Wyoming, Air Force, Denver, Colorado State), one really good tournament, another big boy at home and away would be a good start mixed in with 3 automatic win type opponents that are not Division II.

 

[tante]

The program is not ready to play Kentucky, Duke, North Carolina, Michigan State on the road yet. They need to play a tougher schedule than last year, but they can't play the Michigan State or Gonzaga type schedule until they get three really good recruiting classes together.

Getting the home area games (Wyoming, Air Force, Denver, Colorado State), one really good tournament, another big boy at home and away would be a good start mixed in with 3 automatic win type opponents that are not Division II.

so what good does it do to play a 200+ rpi on the road and lose? at least if you lose to a great team on the road, your SOS comes out higher, your rpi comes out higher and then your team is more prepared for hostile environments. Even if you back into the tourney by playing a tough schedule (Tennessee, Mich State) you get there and start garnering some national attention.

 

[CarolinaBuff]

We don't have to go play teams like Duke, Kentucky, Pitt, etc., we just have to start playing some teams that are at least decent.

 

[SECOBuffsFan]

so what good does it do to play a 200+ rpi on the road and lose? at least if you lose to a great team on the road, your SOS comes out higher, your rpi comes out higher and then your team is more prepared for hostile environments. Even if you back into the tourney by playing a tough schedule (Tennessee, Mich State) you get there and start garnering some national attention.

Can you get there eventually....YES...are we there right now....NO

 

[tante]

Can you get there eventually....YES...are we there right now....NO

I don't get what you are saying. I don't we are going to go and beat these teams, but it is proven that playing these teams and losing is better than playing a 300+ team at home and winning.

 

[MtnBuff]

It is one thing to fatten up the record with some weak directionals but as we saw this year those wins didn't impress the people we needed to impress. I would like to see some home and home deals with some decent major conference teams, not Duke and UNC but mid-level major conference teams. Not only would this give a chance to provide some wins that the committee would pay attention to but they would draw more than the sub 4k crowds that we get playing the 300RPI schools. This would result in getting people interested and thinking CU basketball earlier in the season meaning higher attendance throughout the season and give more people reason to buy season tickets instead of waiting for individual seats for conference games.

 

[SECOBuffsFan]

I don't get what you are saying. I don't we are going to go and beat these teams, but it is proven that playing these teams and losing is better than playing a 300+ team at home and winning.

You also have to WIN games to get in the tournament. Playing an early schedule that is dominated playing those type of teams hurts your record and has the ability to help you lose your confidence and can hurt you in conference. Do we need to play Alcorn State and Western New Mexico every year, hell no. Do we load up on fat cats that won't play us at home...no.

 

[tante]

You also have to WIN games to get in the tournament. Playing an early schedule that is dominated playing those type of teams hurts your record and has the ability to help you lose your confidence and can hurt you in conference. Do we need to play Alcorn State and Western New Mexico every year, hell no. Do we load up on fat cats that won't play us at home...no.

Exhibit a: Michigan state. They played a tough schedule and lost. Now look at cu who won more games and tell me which team got in the dance

 

[SECOBuffsFan]

Exhibit a: Michigan state. They played a tough schedule and lost. Now look at cu who won more games and tell me which team got in the dance

Really, it had nothing to do with the fact that Michigan State is a prefered program from the (overrated) Big 10. You really think if CU played that schedlue they would have had a winning record?

 

[tante]

Really, it had nothing to do with the fact that Michigan State is a prefered program from the (overrated) Big 10. You really think if CU played that schedlue they would have had a winning record?

who knows maybe, we only play the teams that we schedule, so why not schedule better teams?

 

[Junction]

Really, it had nothing to do with the fact that Michigan State is a prefered program from the (overrated) Big 10. You really think if CU played that schedlue they would have had a winning record?

The same thing got VCU and UAB in the tourney. I agree it doesn't make sense, but I think the selection committee made it very clear this year. They want teams to play tougher schedules. They really don't give a **** if you win or not. Wins over 300+ RPI teams like Bzdelik loved to load up the schedule with are basically treated as losses by RPI, which is what the committee seems to go by (even though it sucks ass).