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NFL Draft Thread
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So this dude hit pavement with 40+ feet of gravity behind his momentum... and won. I'd draft him.
Here's a tracker at NFL.com, which they seem to regularly update: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...g-underclassmen-intentions-for-2016-nfl-draft
Any Buffs get drafted?
I think Spruce goes rounds 5-7. Somebody is going to get a steal because I think he will have a good career but he will fall in the draft because he won't impress in shorts at the combine.
Nembot will impress in workouts and despite his film will be in somebody's camp. Might be as a 6-7 but could just as well be a UFA.
KC will measure well enough to have a shot at being a late round pick. Solis did enough this year to get a lookand Bell might but his injury history will scare some teams. Both would surprise me if they got drafted but should be UFAs.
I think Spruce goes rounds 5-7. Somebody is going to get a steal because I think he will have a good career but he will fall in the draft because he won't impress in shorts at the combine.
Nembot will impress in workouts and despite his film will be in somebody's camp. Might be as a 6-7 but could just as well be a UFA.
KC will measure well enough to have a shot at being a late round pick. Solis did enough this year to get a lookand Bell might but his injury history will scare some teams. Both would surprise me if they got drafted but should be UFAs.
I think Spruce is has an Eric Decker type ceiling in the NFL. He's not a burner but has adequate speed, bigger body, great routes and consistent hands. I could see him as high as the 3rd round but no lower than 5th.
I think Spruce could have a similar career to Decker. Doesn't go as high in the draft though because of measurables.
Spruce is listed at 6'1" 205 and I wouldn't be surprised if he is shorter than that. Decker measured 6'3" and close to 220lbs at the combine. Spruce had better stats but the pros love those measurements on a clip board. I don't see Spruce going that early but whoever gets him will be glad they did.
The measurements are what is going to get Nembot his shot but if he is drafted it will be late.
yup. he said he had never done speed work before in his last interview... so he could surprise on his 40.
somebody
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SuperiorBuff
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Nembot and Spruce both in the 3rd.
BlackNGold
Club Member
I would be surprised if either went that high. They would really have to impress someone at the combine (assuming they get invited). I think Spruce is a 4 or 5 rounder. Nembot and Crawley are later or UFA.. Of course a good (or bad) showing at a workout could change that.
NFL scouts love measurables and not many have better at their position than Nembot.
SuperiorBuff
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Bingo, Nembot will get drafted almost entirely on measurables. Spruce may go later.
BlackNGold
Club Member
His measurables are what will keep him in play but he is projected to be a 7th to UFA by the services right now. As I said - he will need a good showing at the combine to move up.
I can't think of another position, other than QB, where film is more important to NFL scouts than measurables, then the Offensive Line. Obviously, the measurables matter to an extent, but so much of OL play is technique, footwork and football IQ. Nembot may be a top tier OL based on his measurables, but I'm not sure how favorable his film is going to be. For this same reason, a "film God" like Spruce could see his stock slide if he doesn't put up the necessary combine numbers.
I'm not sure, so many high round lineman draft pick start off with the "well he has to get way better with his technique but he has the frame to excel." It's almost annoying to a point how many of these guys get by on their athleticism alone. D.J. Humphreys comes to mind from Florida last year, if you watched his film from last year you wouldn't think he was even a draft pick.
A lot of college linemen need work on technique, lots of colleges don't emphasize certain elements of the game enough for guys to develop the technique the need at the pro level. That shows up on film and teams expect they can teach those things.
What also shows up on film though is when guys miss blocks because they have bad feet or bad balance or lack playing strength. I think that when they see him getting beat due to bad feet and see that the problem didn't change in three years they will hesitate even with what he might do in shorts at the combine.
There are exceptions to this, of course, and I'm speaking in relative terms to other positions. RB, WR, and TE are all positions that scouts are probably more willing to take a chance on, based on their physical measurables rather than film and/or technique (DT and Julius Thomas come to mind). Defensive Ends, IMO are also right there in that physical potential group with WRs/TEs. Then you have LBs, DTs and Secondary players who do get scrutinized/praised for their fundamentals and technique, but whose physical attributes can make up for that in scout's/GM's eyes. Yes, OL guys have to be taller and over 300 lbs and be physically strong, but technique wins out in NFL trenches just about every time.
QB is somewhat of a mixed bag, IMO. So much film study is done on their technique, footwork, throwing motion, IQ, arm strength, accuracy, and intagibles that they are really in a tier of their own. Some GMs fall in love with the physical side (Oakland and Jamarcus Russell), while others really focus on the other things (Seattle and Russell Wilson).
I think Ezekiel Elliott can be safe bet after declaring after the MSU game.
http://espn.go.com/college-football...r-coaching-staff-loss-michigan-state-spartans
http://espn.go.com/college-football...r-coaching-staff-loss-michigan-state-spartans
Byron Marshall is not going to seek a medical redshirt and will enter the draft.
http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.ssf/2015/12/for_byron_marshall_it_was_just.html
http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.ssf/2015/12/for_byron_marshall_it_was_just.html
Scooby Wright is declaring for he draft.
Btw, I just noticed this thread is in the CU Football forum. May want to move to the Pub?
Btw, I just noticed this thread is in the CU Football forum. May want to move to the Pub?
Thread is in the right place. These guys leaving (or staying) impacts CU football.
I think everybody assumed Wright was gone. The injury could have changed that but he played well enough to show the NFL that he is healthy enough to draft.
Seeing Arizona today barely beat a mediocre MWC team makes me mad that we didn't show better against them this year. That is the kind of team we need to beat.
Utah is going to get hit hard by graduation and the draft. That defense loses lots of players and they will lose their QB and top RB. Their running game got a lot more pedestrian once he went down.
goldy21
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I was wondering how long it would take for the "comp based on skin color" to pop up.
Nelson Spruce has almost nothing in common with Eric Decker as a player. Decker is a much bigger, faster, and more explosive wide receiver.
The best comps that I can come up with for Spruce are Jason Avant and Jerrico Cotchery. Spruce's absolute ceiling would be an Anquan Boldin-type career, but Boldin has 20 pounds of muscle on Spuce.
Nelson will need to run sub-4.6 at the combine to crack into the 5th round. I think he'll be a 4.6 +/- 0.05 guy.
Yes. They are both possession receivers at the core but have the ability to get over the top at times.
Yeah I think they both have underrated athleticism. Spruce was going against some of the best corners in the country the last two years and consistently beat them even without a great QB. Still the best comparison I read on here was anquan bolden.