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Pac-12 Basketball

NashBuff

CSU Knob-Slobberer
I wonder how everyone is feeling about the Pac-12 next season after we played Oregon State? I know the Beavers aren't that good of a basketball team right now but how does everyone feel about next season? Where do you think we fall in the Pac-12 pecking order?

FYI, we had 6,363 fans for the OrSU game...I wonder what kind of numbers we could expect from the games against other Pac-12 teams? Utah has a large alumni base in Denver so I think we will see some good numbers for Utah-CU games. What about the other schools? Doesn't ASU have a large alumni base here in Denver as well?
 
I think the novelty of it is going to draw more fans. That, plus we should be coming off a winning season.

Long-term, I think we'll do better on attendance than we did in the Big 12. But it won't be because of opposing fans. It will be because of what we are building.
 
Buffnik said:
I think the novelty of it is going to draw more fans. That, plus we should be coming off a winning season.

Long-term, I think we'll do better on attendance than we did in the Big 12. But it won't be because of opposing fans. It will be because of what we are building.
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I have to agree with you 100% on that...it seems like the new practice facilities are making a world of difference for the Buffs. If CU's sports were like a stock, I'd sell the football one and buy the basketball ones. If Boyle can get the Buffs to play hard every night, I'm sure CU fans would enjoy watching basketball at the CEC.
 
In general, Pac 10 basketball is meh. Arizona is the kingpin, though they are down now. UCLA has a great past, but lately they are either great or terrible. Washington is new money. The rest are blah.

We should be able to compete. Then again, the Big XII wasn't exactly a bastion of college hoops either (except KU), and we haven't fared very well there.
 
UrbanaBuff said:
In general, Pac 10 basketball is meh. Arizona is the kingpin, though they are down now. UCLA has a great past, but lately they are either great or terrible. Washington is new money. The rest are blah.

We should be able to compete. Then again, the Big XII wasn't exactly a bastion of college hoops either (except KU), and we haven't fared very well there.
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OSU, Texas, and OU have broken thru with Final 4 berth's in recent history but obviously none of them have been able to win it all. Missouri and KSU have also advanced deep into the tournament. In the Pac, UCLA has had a run of Final 4 appearances very recently with 1 title in the late 90's I think it was. Stanford also had a Final 4 appearance somewhere in the last 10 years or so.
 
sackman said:
The Big 12 is a superior basketball conference to the Pac 12.
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Focus primarily on football, and everything else will fall into place (or, if we fail at football, then we can challenge WSU for the dregs of the conference...).
 
I'mma disagree about UCLA. Howland had them in back to back final fours just a couple years ago. i'd say the Big XII was a better conference in the early 00's....when the league boasted Roy/Self, RMK, Sutton, Kelvin Sampson, Barnes, Gillespie....stout (stoudt?) league. now, KSU and MU are resurgent, along with Baylor...but, not sure the league as a whole is as strong as it was 5-7 years ago when OU, OSU, UT, and KU were all final four/elite 8 type teams for a stretch. Tech and OU suck, OSU is a bubble type team with Ford seems, Turgeon has ATM in the NCAA mix but no more Acie Law types, Barnes has talent but lacks the "glue" guys he had in the past (imo) and seems to have lost the will to coach D (which was his calling card), KU is KU....

i think the Pac move should help CU hoops. put Burks in the NBA and Boyle can recruit that to death...on the west cost. Texas and Houston are the talent center for the XII and we haven't recruited Tex so hot in either rev sport of late.

some underrated coaches in the Pac, i like Sean Miller a lot and Herb Sendek can coach. Mike Montgomery i think is a dick but he's had success, Romar. USc went retread with the former Marquette guy after Tim Floyd cheated them into probation (Fight On!), Johnny Dawkins i loved as a player.....
 
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CarolinaBuff said:
OSU, Texas, and OU have broken thru with Final 4 berth's in recent history but obviously none of them have been able to win it all. Missouri and KSU have also advanced deep into the tournament. In the Pac, UCLA has had a run of Final 4 appearances very recently with 1 title in the late 90's I think it was. Stanford also had a Final 4 appearance somewhere in the last 10 years or so.
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'Zona was very good until the last couple of years. They won a title in the 90's (beating KY), went to multiple final 4's, and lost to Duke in another final.
 
RedDirtBuff said:
'Zona was very good until the last couple of years. They won a title in the 90's (beating KY), went to multiple final 4's, and lost to Duke in another final.
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like i say, i like Miller...and apparently a lot of UA fans liked Josh Pastner (serious Houston recruiting pull)....but, they have to figure out how to replace Lute.

lot of people don't know this, but Lute coached jr. high basketball in Boulder at Table Mesa.
 
Mick Ronson said:
like i say, i like Miller...and apparently a lot of UA fans liked Josh Pastner (serious Houston recruiting pull)....but, they have to figure out how to replace Lute.

lot of people don't know this, but Lute coached jr. high basketball in Boulder at Table Mesa.
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I first heard of Pastner when he was walking on at UofA - he was a huge summer circuit coach/AAU. He was a player that was just there wanting to learn from Lute. UofA fans love Pastner, and I think with good reason, even if he learned under Calipari...

I'm with you though - Miller is a solid coach. Overall, the Pac 10 is a much more solid bball conference than the Big 12, recent history aside. I think you will see next year, Pac 10 will be back as a strong conference, and CU's move definitely helps with bball. I'll take the HS talent in WA, OR and CA over big 12 area anyday.
 
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